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How is this possible? Hole in the barrel!

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing and Repairs' started by nwilliams, Mar 25, 2013.

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  1. nwilliams

    nwilliams Member

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    A customer of ours came into the shop today and brought with him a Tikka barreled action that has a very strange exit hole. The customer claimed he didn't see this hole until he got the gun home from the range and noticed it.

    Sorry for the bad cell phone pics it's the best I could do while the customer was in the shop.

    How is such a thing even possible? Any ideas?

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  2. pikid89

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    Free porting job? Modern art muzzle break? Slip of a plasma cutter?
     
  3. frankenstein406

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    reloads or new ammo?
     
  4. Jim K

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    It looks like however the front sight was mounted resulted in weakening the barrel at that point and it blew out. Whether the problem was due to an error at the factory or someone tried to install a new/different sight, I can't tell from the pictures.

    If returning the rifle to the factory is not an option or the problem was not caused by the factory, the easy solution is to cut off and re-crown the barrel. Then, a new sight can be mounted or not, as the customer wishes.

    Jim
     
  5. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

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    I would have to assume a Tikka .300 Mag never had a front sight in the first place.

    This is how it is possible.
    Looks to me like it got shot with somebody's small bore varmint rifle by accident while standing in a gun rack!!

    I saw a Winchester Model 52 .22 target rifle with a hole in the barrel just like that once 50 years ago.

    The gunsmith who had it in a rack behind his bench shot it by accident with a .22 Hornet a customer brought in the shop loaded and squeezed of an ND while getting it out of the gun case.

    Non-believers?
    Look at the dent in the bottom of the bore in the bottom of the hole in photo #2.

    That was made by something going in, Not coming out!.

    rc
     
  6. Jim K

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    Well, I admit I never thought of that! It would explain why the owner of the gun didn't seem to know what happened to his rifle.

    The only problem is the square notch at the front of the hole, which looked to me like it was cut/milled for some kind of front sight; a stray bullet would not cut such a neat squared off notch.

    Jim
     
  7. nwilliams

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    The guy claimed that he was shooting factory new ammo but didn't say what brand or maybe he did and I just didn't hear.


    That's kinda what the general consensus at the shop after the customer left. The story the customer gave us just didn't seem to make sense. How could a round exit a barrel completely out the side!

    The barrel never had a front sight, also the hole isn't exactly placed where the front side would be if it did have one, it's a bit off to the side.
     
  8. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

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    Well, there ya go then!!

    I still contend that barrel was the unfortunate victim of a ND from a high-velocity varmint rifle of some kind.


    There is no bore pressure or high pressure white hot gas at the muzzle end of a .30 cal barrel to burn a hole out from the inside.
    Even if there was a screw hole or something there to start it with.

    It got shot with Something fast & light, from the outside in, by somebody.
    Plain & simple.

    rc
     
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    Seems to be some copper on the "entry" as well. RC nailed it I believe.

    HB
     
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    I wouldn't think he could have shot that without noticing the blow hole effect. I'm not sure if you know the guy well, but it would seems there may be more to the story. If he shot it after, surely he would notice at a minimum a change in report or recoil. And if it happened right before he packed up and left for home then surely he would have found some sort of fragment in the barrel.
    Let me get to the punch line here, does he have any small bore rifle you are aware of? If so congratulate him on a seemingly impossible shot, and wager that he couldn't do it twice. ;)
     
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    "looks to me like it got shot with somebody's small bore varmint rifle by accident while standing in a gun rack!!"
    That would be my guess, looks much more like a bullet hole than a barrel rupture.
    Crazy:eek:
     
  13. returningfire

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    But why would anyone want to shoot (at) a Tikka?:)
    Blasphemy!
     
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    I concur that it looks like it's been shot from the outside. Oh well, easy fix. Just cut it off and recrown it. As long as it's over 16 inches, he's good.
     
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    Regardless of whether or not it had a front sight "... he said..." or where it's indexed - now the front of the hole sure does appear to have a deliberately cut square slot start to it.
     
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    Bizarre, it is.....
     
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    It was back several years ago, about 2005, that Beretta had a recall on there stainless steel rifles because of bad steel and action and barrel failures. Your rifle may be in that group. It applied to Sako's and Beretta's. I would definitely advise you to return it to the factory.
     
  18. slickracer

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    Sounts like there's some Tom Foolery & shenanigans going on here....he is certainly not sharing the whole story.
     
  19. rodinal220

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    ND.yup copper around the edges of the hole,cratering.Somebody shot the rifle.
     
  20. Arkansas Paul

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    That definitely appears to be an entry and and exit hole. It was shot. No doubt in my mind. That's pretty crappy luck though.
     
  21. rcmodel

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    I say again:
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    the copper on the entry is the exact same color as the copper streaks in the grooves. Was there any bore damage opposite the entry wound?
     
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  23. Arkansas Paul

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    This is my comment from my first post, but looking more clearly, there only appears to be one hole. I thought I was seeing the woodgrain in photo 2 but it appears to be rifling. My bad. I still think it's a bullet hole though.
     
  24. Carl N. Brown

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    Clarke likes to test firearms to the bursting point and has seen a few deliberate ka-booms; it would be inetresting to see his opinion.
     
  25. Cosmoline

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    It really looks like a bullet hole to me. I wonder what's on the opposite side. Perhaps a slight indent? Bullet fragments probably fell out after that. Wild. And spooky. I've seen similar holes in rifles from WW1
     
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