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How many really only like military (and -styled) guns?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Ignition Override, Aug 27, 2009.

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  1. Ignition Override

    Ignition Override Member

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    Although I've never hunted and only became interested in guns fairly late in life, only guns such as the WW2 era and later military products interest me.
    Even the older Walther P-38 handguns appeal to me for some reason much more than modern HKs etc.

    The civilian rifles are always reported to be better for hunting, with so many options for scopes and the many larger calibers etc.

    Mini 30, SKS, MN 44 and Lee-Enfield #4, #5, plus very old Savage .22.
     
  2. R.W.Dale

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    Not me I can appreciate em all for various reasons. Provided they live up to the old axiom that only accurate rifles are interesting.
     
  3. scythefwd

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    While I love the military guns, I don't favor them over others and vice versa. Most of my guns are modeled or were military, but the guns that draw my attention are the ones that were both military and civilian. The Browning HP is a good example. Still thinking about getting one of those :)
     
  4. lobo9er

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    1st gun I ever bought was a mosin m44 and it was a slippery slop ever since. I too enjoy the military type guns, modern and older milsurplus stuff. The military stuff is what i am really into, little more fun to shoot for what ever reason for my self. And just as effective hunting for the most part.
     
  5. jd46561

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    I prefer Milsurps/black rifles and the like, over shotguns, remchesters, 10/22's etc...
     
  6. Shung

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    I do !!!

    I dont like sporting or hunting guns.. I like military like looking guns.. from the past, or actual.

    exept for late 19th century era guns, like winchesters or Sharps.. even if those has been used by miltary force and police..
     
  7. akolleth

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    95% of my collection is military type rifles

    I can appreciate the other styles, but very greatly prefer military
     
  8. Mr_Pale_Horse

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    1916 Spanish Mauser Short Rifle (7x57)
    1895 Chilean Mauser 7x57
    Ruger Blackhawks (3) 45 Colt
    Ruger Bisley 45 Colt
    Colt Anaconda 45 Colt
    S&W M1937 45 ACP
    S&W M25-2 45 ACP
    SA 1911-A1 45 ACP
    Browning Hi-Power 9mm
    TZ-75 9mm
    Ruger P-90 45 ACP
    US Model 1903 Mark I 30-06
    Ivers and Johnson Champion 20 ga
    Remington 870 Wingmaster LT-20
    Remington 870 Wingmaster Magnum 30" Full Waterfowl 12 ga
    Remington 970 Express 12 ga
    1858 Remington 44 cal
    Thompson Center Hawken 50 Cal caplock
    T/C Renegade (2) 54 cal caplock
    T/C New Englander (3) 54 cal, 54 cal rynite, 12 ga caplock
    Pedersoli Frontier Flintlock 50 cal
    Lyman 54 Caliber Trade Rifle
    Knight LK-93 54 Cal
    Marlin ML 54 cal
    Interarms Mk X 7x57
    Yugo M48 8x57 JS
    Yugo M48B 8x57 JS
    Turk 1941 Kirikale 8x57 JS
    SMLE No. 4 Mk II (2) 303 British
    M38 Swedish Mauser 6.5x55
    Winchester Model 24 SxS 12 ga Mod/IC
    Ruger Red Label O/U 12 ga
    Winchester 67A Boys Rifle 22 cal
    Winchester 37A 410
    Hawes Western Star SA 357 magnum
    Ted Williams 22 Semi auto and matching scope
    Marlin 895 22 cal
    Harrison Mfg & Tool Boys Rifle circa 1939 22 cal

    I think I remember everything.

    That makes 10 of 44 milsurps,
    11 of 44 hanguns of some M&P Heritage,
    11 Black Powder Firearms,
    23 Sporting Long Guns

    Put me down as a Sporting Long Gunner, with minors in BP, Milsurp, and Wheelgun/Krunchenticker
     
  9. skidooman603

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    Is that "ALL" Pale Horse? Ha Ha! Nice line up by the sounds of it :)
     
  10. skidooman603

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    OK Let me give this a shot from memory:
    (3) M1 Garands "My Favs"
    (2) 1903A3s
    (2) M1 Carbines
    M1917 American Enfield
    .303 British Enfield
    1903 Springfield
    US44 .22 TRaining rifle
    Model 96 Swede
    (2) Sporter 96 Swedes for Whitetails
    12 GA Ruger Red Label
    A5 Browning 12GA
    7MM Mag Browning A-Bolt Med
    Marlin 336 30-30
    Marlin 1895 45-70
    Marlin .50 cal inline
    TC .50 cal muzzleloader
    Remington 742 Woodsmaster 30-06
    Browning bottom eject .22
    Marlin Model 60 .22
    Beretta 92F
    Ruger Super Blackhawk
    Springfield Armory .45 ACP
    WASR 10 AK 47
    Russian SKS
    Rock River Arms National Match .223
    DPMS .308 Sportical
    Colt 6920 .223
    White Oak Armory .223 Comp AR

    Gosh I know there are more but not sitting in front of the Safe. Guess I need
    some professional help :uhoh::uhoh::uhoh::uhoh::uhoh:
     
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  11. Old Jimmy

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    Most of what I shoot is Military because I like the history of each one.

    It was the best technology they could build at the time to defend their freedom with.

    I also wonder what was running through the owners minds as they lay there in the trench fighting for their country and freedom.....


    Oh yeah, they are a hell of a lot of fun to shoot!!!!
     
  12. Mr_Pale_Horse

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    A small sample from the Gallipoli Landings, 1915:

    Tim Buckley, a Munster Fusilier, described his experience of the landing:

    "I was talking to the chap on my left when I saw a lump of lead enter his temple. I turned to the chap on my right, his name was Fitzgerald from Cork, but soon he was over the border. The one piece of shrapnel had done the job for two of them."

    Sgt J Mc Colgan, was with thirty two men, only six of whom survived. He was shot in the leg. He recalled the landings thus:

    "One fellow's brains were shot into my mouth as I was shouting to them to jump for it. I dived into the sea. Then came the job to swim with my pack and one leg useless. I managed to pull out the knife and cut the straps and swim ashore. All the time bullets were ripping around me."
     
  13. middy

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    Not me. I like sporters, although I do prefer the military-style iron sights.

    Perhaps we should have two separate forums....
     
  14. iamkris

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    I like them all but upon further reflection, apparently military arms hold a deeper sense of happiness for me

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    J&T 24” varmint upper on DPMS lower, 5.56x45mm
    CMT upper, 18” WOA barrel on AeroPrecision lower, 6.8x43mm SPC
    J&T M4-gery upper on DPMS lower, 5.56x45mm
    WOA DCM upper on Rock River lower, 5.56x45mm
    Olympic Arms upper on DPMS lower, 9x19mm


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    CETME, 7.62x51mm
    PTR91, 7.62x51mm
    DSA StG58A, 7.62x51mm
    DSA SA58, 7.62x51mm
    Egyptian FN49, 7.92x57mm
    Springfield Armory M1A Loaded, 7.62x51mm
    WASR-10 AKM, , 7.62x39mm
    Yugoslavian SKS M49/51, 7.62x39mm



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    Izhmash Saiga-12, 12 ga
    CAI Golani, 5.56x45 mm (Galil clone)
    MSAR StG556-E4, 5.56x45 mm (Steyr AUG-A3 clone)


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    1944 Springfield Armory M1 Garand, .30-06
    1941 Springfield Armory M1 Garand, .30-06
    1939 Springfield Armory M1 Garand, .30-06
    Springfield Armory 1903A3, .30-06
    Eddystone M1917, .30-06
    Inland M1 Carbine, .30 Carbine
    Springfield Armory 1898 Krag, .30-40
    Springfield Armory 1873 Trapdoor, .45-70


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    Ishapore Enfield 2A, 7.62x51mm
    Savage Enfield No. 4, Mk I*, .303 British
    Fazerkly Enfield No. 4, Mk 1/2, .303 British
    MAS 36, 7.5x54mm
    Berthier Mle 1892/27 (32 ?) (Mosqueton d'Artillerie Mle. 1927), 8x50R mm
    Swedish M1896 Mauser 1900 Oberndorf, 6.5x55mm
    Swedish M1896 Mauser 1903 Gustav, 6.5x55mm
    Swiss K31, 7.5x55mm
    Swiss K31, 7.5x55mm


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    Yugoslavian M48 Mauser, 7.92x57mm
    Mauser K98k, 7.92x57mm
    Mauser K98k, 7.92x57mm
    Type 99 Arisaka, 7.7x58mm
    Mosin-Nagant M38, 7.62x54R
    Mosin-Nagant M44, 7.62x54R
    Mosin-Nagant 91/30, 7.62x54R
    Finnish M39 Sako, 7.62x54R
    Finnish M39 B-barrel, 7.62x54R


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    Pedersoli Billy Dixon 1874 Sharps, .45-70
    Rossi Winchester 1892 clone, .45 Colt
    Mossberg M46, .22 LR
    Ruger 10-22T, .22 LR
    Ruger 10-22, .22 LR
    Savage Cub, .22 LR
    Charles Daly Zavasta, .22 LR
    Henry H001, .22 LR
    Henry H001 youth stock, .22 LR


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    BOHICA A2 upper on DPMS lower, .50 BMG
    Spanish FR-8, 7.62x51mm
    E Robinson contract, .58 cal blackpowder
    Israeli FN Mauser, 7.62x51mm
    Tikka T3, .300 WSM
    Gamo Hunter, .177 cal
    Gamo Delta, .177 cal
     
  15. jimmyraythomason

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    I like 'em all.
     
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    words fail me. :cool:
     
  17. Mr_Pale_Horse

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    Nice FN49; always wanted one of those.
     
  18. Horsemany

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    Excellent suggestion. 4 or 5 years ago this forum was MUCH more hunting rifle oriented. The market has shifted big time.
     
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    iamkris how is the Spanish FR-8, 7.62x51mm to shoot, accurate? good hiking/hunting pick?
     
  20. docjim

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    Ok, Sorta along these lines; My 1st love is & always will be Black Powder Muzzle Loaders.. About half of my 75 firearms are Black powder in some form, but then talking cartridge rifles I have no true civilian style rifle. A majority by far of these 'other' guns are mil-surp. I prefer shooting handguns to rifles at the range & often have a hard time choosing what to shoot, or in what caliber.
    Then there is something Historically romantic about firearms used during great social unrest. I have 2 Garands, 2 M1 Carbines, & a Semi Converted M-14 in addition to my Mosin Nagants, SKS's, All original (except 1 sks w/ folding plastic stock) & my ONLY "Black Rifle" is a High Point 9mm carbine. I have 5 original Civil War era rifles 1 of which is a Snyder conversion of a 3 band Enfield to .450/577. But History is what made me go for Winchester LeverGuns too! I suppose you could say Indian Wars there to stretch a point.
    So other than my assortment of smokemakers, my guns are by far more military in scope. They are Heavy, Ugly, & Rough, but they have Character! And they will take a serious beating before they will fail... BTW I also do not believe a 22 makes a decent battle weapon... (that will start a fight!) I used one for awhile but preferred my M-14....
    I'd list my guns but it's just too much for now.. 37 Handguns, 32 longguns, 6 shotguns according to my computer inventory... "DOC"
     
  21. SteveCase

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    You just can't beat the look of a well crafted wooden stock, And the old hand engraved metal on a old SXS beautiful. Then again the history on military guns is somthing to be prized along with the reliabilty and the beauty of the older non-polymer guns
     
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    "My name is Kris ... and i have a milsurp problem!"


    :eek:
     
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    The problem with a nice, beautiful SxS is i think they look better sawed off so i never have wanted to buy an expensive one.
     
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    I have a similar philosophy in regards to rifles. I do have a couple of non-military styled .22's that I use for cheap practice so I can shoot my military guns better. Most of my handguns are used either by militaries or law enforcement in various roles. Once again, I have a couple of .22 pistols for cheap handgun practice.
     
  25. Ignition Override

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    iamkris:
    As soon as I saw the impressive collections of Mr. Pale Horse and Skidoo, they reminded me of yours, but could not remember your nickname.
    Military Rifle Tribal Chief can be the title for many of you. How about Exalted Guru?

    CornCod: Exactly.
    Shooting about 50-100 rds. in the old .22 quickly satisfies some of the need to shoot lots of costlier ammo. I only had about 30 minutes to spend at the river today, and after 15 minutes with the Savage, only needed about 15 rounds in the Lee-Enfield #4 for high-power entertainment, before having to return home and rinse the bore with boiling water/dry patches.
    Am reluctant to expose the pricier #5 Jungle Carbine to frequent 'wear and tear', but it is the most fun.

    MP7:
    A friend from Essen, Germany has conventional hunting rifles/shotguns. .270 etc (and a new Walther .22), but no Mauser.
    Instead, he bought a Colt AR-15 years ago. He gave me the impression that a very nice, authentic (non Russkie capture) Mauser would be very expensive.
    But his father had one in the Wehrmacht. Ironisch oder?

    I guess we normally need to switch to Surplusrifle or Gunboards, to read much more about this subject.
    THR does not want such a forum to be created. Even SKSboards has a Curio and Relic forum.
     
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