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How many times can you fail in gun safety in 5:00, I lost count.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by junk250, Jul 31, 2011.

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  1. junk250

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    The first minute or two is a Wasr type Ak (at least one negligent discharge later) and a 9mm pointed straight at the guy's head sitting in the next stall," and the parking lot, then it goes downhill from there.

    Then the guy with the Nagant steps right in front of the AK, with the fat fingers guy that has never shot a gun, and had at least one negligent discharge later in the vid., and at the same time half their guns were pointed backwards at the parking lot.

    This kind of burns me up, Its a blast to shoot, but don't point guns at people in the parking lot and beside you.

    Not to mention the foul language in a public place, a young girl was trying to shoot in the next stall.

    Not cool at all.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yky8LxGhDFw&feature=related
     
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  2. 303tom

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    Just a bunch of damn PUNKS !
     
  3. FROGO207

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    Goes to show you that a clean record and enough cash to buy a gun/ammo does not make one a pro with a firearm. A little common sense and a lot of education would be good for those shooters. This stuff puts a bad spin on firearms ownership/use as well as being completely unsafe.:fire::banghead:
     
  4. 8654Maine

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    brain dead and still walking
     
  5. nosmr2

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    Impossible to watch due to shaky camera. A tripod or monopod never hurts.
     
  6. Russ Jackson

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    He actually used the AK for a gun rest. And you wonder why so many members have NDs. These Idiots scare the heck out of me. I guess they never had a good male role model to teach them. So sad. I bet they show this crap to there friends and they think this is the way you handle a gun. Amazing...Russ
     
  7. Russ Jackson

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    $89 dollar Mosin with a 89 IQ shooting...Russ
     
  8. joeq

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    If punks like this show up where I'm shooting I'm leaving. It's just a matter of time until someone gets hurt. They should be embarrassed putting this garbage on the internet.
     
  9. seanie!

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    I'm not exactly trying to defend anyone in the video, but from what I gather, at least two of them were veterans. They mentioned shooting 50 cals, drill sergeants, and acted out loading artillery with the Mosin. If they were at a range that I was at, shooting the way they were, I'd at least mention to them that they might want to keep all firearms pointed downrage at all times. If they didn't after that, then I'd decide it was time to leave.
     
  10. orionengnr

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    Poor muzzle discipline, poor trigger discipline.
    No use of eye protection.

    If this is what passes for training these days, I'm not impressed at all.
     
  11. joeq

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    Veterans or not, they need to learn some gun safety.
     
  12. Ignition Override

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    Can public ranges have voluntary Range Masters, as least on weekends, who can evaluate people and evict them until they prove attendance of a gun class, if needed?

    Besides our local private club with its numerous rigid rules, the only range I've been to is the club in Newburgh IN, by Evansville.

    Unlike my club, that club has No rules about people standing (with empty guns on the bench) behind a safety line when others are down range, but shooters seem to be experienced and safe.
     
  13. USAF_Vet

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    Exactly. Just because someone served, doesn't mean they know jack about firearms. Rear eschelon POGs who come back stateside are typically the ones bragging about their so-called experiences, which are complete fabrications.
     
  14. M-Cameron

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    not really defending their actions......because it is possible to go to the range and have fun without acting like a bunch of hooligans.....

    however, the guns not in their immediate possession did appear to have their actions open with magazines removed......rendering them more or less "safe"
     
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    Jeeze.......Proof that God must love stupid people.. he made so many of them...
     
  16. Cosmoline

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    I think a lot of people are condemning them on LOOKS. I see some lax safety standards but nothing as bad as the attacks would warrant. Why not offer safety tips instead of the personal attacks?
     
  17. seanie!

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    This.
    This.

    Once again, I'm not particularly defending them, but this is supposed to be the highroad. Comments like:
    That's a whole lot of name calling for the highroad. Everyone is entitled to their own personal opinion, but when it devolves into name calling, it's just not cool. How are these kids supposed to improve their gun handling safety when they're just written off as punks and idiots? If nobody is willing to step in and mention to them that they have lax safety and poor gun handling, when are they going to get better?
     
  18. kwelz

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    That range is about 5 minutes from my house. I refuse to go there because this kind of activity is the norm.

    ETA:

    Some examples of what happens up there:

    There is an outhouse there for people to use. It has to be replaced constantly because it is always shot up.

    I have seen people start shooting while others are down putting up/taking down targets.

    Not unusual to see people drinking while shooting there.


    Honestly I am amazed no one has died at this range.
     
  19. El Tejon

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    Less than optimal behavior.

    kewlz, does IDNR run that range?
     
  20. kwelz

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    Saying they "run" the range is a bit generous. It is located in the state forestry so technically they do. However it is rare to see a DNR officer and when you do he is usually just driving through. The range is never actually monitored.

    There are actually 2 ranges separated by a berm. The one these guys are on is the public range. It has tables set up for people and then three small hills for targets with a small stream you have to walk across.

    On the other side is the LE range. It is a flat open range that goes out to about 100 yards. Neither are safe.
     
  21. GLOOB

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    I didn't see any of the things the OP pointed out. Maybe I blinked. I didn't see any ND's. I didn't see anyone walk in front of another shooter.* Didn't see a 9mm pointed at other people. Didn't notice any poor trigger control or muzzle discipline. Only thing I saw was a rifle and a pistol laying on the table, pointed at a parking lot where there were no people.

    The one time I noticed a guy with his finger in the trigger of the Mosin pointing straight up, he had the bolt open and was looking in the chamber. I dunno but I thought he was maybe trying to decock the rifle.

    *If you meant when he walked in front of the AK that was lying on the table not being handled... uh, so what? You walk in front of a bunch of firearms every time you walk downrange to change targets. Unless everyone was to take all their rifles and prop them up every time 1 guy wants to put up a target? And put away all their pistols in their range bags... pointing where, exactly? I thought the proper thing was to just leave em unloaded and not handled. Pointing downrange.
     
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    Well, for starters, they wore no safety gear for their ears of their eyes, so that's 2 automatic violations for every shot fired.

    Using an unsteady shooting rest (another firearm)

    5 times pointed at people (at least in the direction of others)
    3 time kept finger by trigger when not shooting.
    3 times got in front of the firing line (the firing line was wherever the current guy was taking his shots)
    7 times did not pay attention to where the gun was pointing. (I mean whenever they would just hold the gun up and talk)
    2 times standing in front of a gun (I consider standing in front of the AK to be this.)

    20 general safety violations

    64 shots fired. So that, with none of them wearing any protection, makes it 2 violations per shot.

    64X2=128

    Total: 148 safety violations.
     
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  23. M-Cameron

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    with the exception of the eye and ear protection( though it looked as though they could have been wearing plugs).........i didnt see any of that.


    perhaps you could provide some time signatures as to when these happened in the video....?


    aside from some language that was a tad south of proper for a public place, and general goofiness .......i didnt see anything that screamed "OMG I BETTER GET OUT OF HERE BEFORE I DIE!".
     
  24. GLOOB

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    Definitely did not see this.
    Don't understand how 5 times = 7 times, now.

    As for the firing line, I didn't see one. If you know the range rules, then so be it. It wasn't obvious to the rest of us. Just looked like a picnic table and a pile of dirt to me.

    I do this every time I go shooting outdoors - when I put up new targets or when I go to shoot closer than my field bench, there are guns laying on the bench pointing downrange.
     
  25. Russ Jackson

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    If I went to a range and saw people acting, talking, and handling guns like this I would leave immediatly. Resting a firearm on another while shooting is nuts. Standing infront of the bench while shooting? He actually pointed the Mosin at the camera mans mid section. All guns point down range. Reckless firing of weapons with no target in mind. The little guy had no clue as to what or where he was shooting. The guy with the winter hat spins with the AK and again with the Mosin at the end of the video. He bangs the AK several times. No telling where the bullets went. A complete bench in dissaray. I never actually saw a target. No eye protection or hearing. If a range officer was onsite they would have been run off immediatly. Anyone who finds this range behavior acceptable needs to be re-trained. ...Russ
     
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