Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by CrankyCraig, Mar 13, 2019.
just Curios how many times do you all reload a 40 S&W case?
I don't shoot a lot of 40 and have never counted how many times I have reloaded them.
Haven't had any case failures yet but my 40 chamber is supported so no bulges to contend with either.
I honestly have no idea, some of it has seen a LOT. Most of my pistol brass is range pickups, with no knowledge of prior history. I inspect each case for cracks, both after tumbling and after seating/crimping, and I feel for loose primer pockets when priming. I have only had one loose primer pocket. TBH, 99.9% of my .40 brass loss is due to not finding it in the grass, or my own stupidity by crushing in the press.
Like badkarmalib, I lose them before they ever head South. Only one reloaded case was ever found split. Not a concern unless maybe one is loading really hot rounds.
I load 40 out of 4000 pieces in an ammo can. Fired cases get dumped in the can and when I reload I dig some out. I do stir the brass around in the can every once in a while so I'm not just loading the top layer all the time. Not sure how many times any of it has been reloaded but I rarely have a case split and most of my brass loss is from loosing it. I do keep once fired brass I acquire separate from the stuff being loaded and if I ever need to I will start feeding it into the reloading chain but in the last 7 years my brass count has held steady as some days I find more then I shoot and other days I don't.
I do this for all my pistol calibers except 380, with 380 I find I get better results loading it by head stamp as sometimes slight press adjustments need made. I still reload the brass until it splits but I have bags by head stamp. If I do any specialty load for my pistols I like to use nickle brass just to easily identify the load.
Are you guys saying it lasts a long time using Glocks or other guns? I have the same question as the OP. I've been told .40 cases in a glock don't last real long bc there's not full support of the case.
I'm currently at 7 reloads on the same cases. Looking to go 10+. Primer pockets are still good and no issues with cracking cases. It is one of the primary calibers I load for and shoot. Most of the "glock bulge" you hear about are for the 1st gen glocks. Apparently that was changed and even in range pick ups, I have not run into a bulged case.
I don't think I've ever seen a .40 case that couldn't be reloaded other than a few people had fired in .45s.
I usually don't bother picking it up during matches... I got most of mine for free.
It's getting more scarce nowadays though. All the cool kids are shooting 9.
I have never counted and rarely start with new brass. Quite a few times is my best answer, comparable to 9mm or 38spl. I know it doesn't last as long as 45 ACP brass, does anything?
At least half of my 40 brass is used in a Gen 2 Glock and gets a bulge although it is slight. When my 40 brass fails it's usually shattered rather than split, looks like a broken cup reassembled. I don't recall ever having any issues with primer pockets.
I load for 10 or so 40s including a few glocks I pick up the brass I see, and throw it in the bucket. If my progressive is still set up for 40 I sometimes throw them directly back into the hopper. Ive never had a problem.
I'm not loading my carry ammo, I buy that in 40. If I did I might trim/ tumble/ etc But for my range ammo I've fired many tens of thousands of rounds and not had an issue. It's lost, dented or scarred up and tossed before it's worn out. I have discarded some due to primer pockets but rarely
Can't say how many times I have reloaded my .40S&W brass.
I don't own an unsupported barrel but have a ton of range brass. All of my .40 S&W brass goes through a Redding "bulge buster" die just in case.
I lose a lot of brass but because I have thousands, I don't worry about it. Same with 9mm...
I try not to lose any .45ACP or 10mm brass.
I really don't shoot a great deal of .40 or 9mm at any rate. I much prefer .45ACP.
I don't keep track of how many times I reload each case, but I have not had a split case yet in 40S&W. When I started reloading I probably loaded some of the cases 3 or more times, but since then I have accumulated enough cases now that I will maybe cycle through them once every 2 to 3 years.
I have probably 5000 rounds of reloaded 40s&w on my shelf. I also shoot 700-1000 rounds per week. I only have maybe 300 empty cases, 90% of which are range pickups with maybe 1/3 having the Glock bulge when I picked them up. Even those cases have been reloaded more than 10 times. About one or two cases that I reload per week have split forcing me to toss them. Other than that I've had no issues and I'm sure some of my cases have been reloaded close to 20 times. I do not typically run extremely hot loads although sometimes I do approach Max loads with certain powders.
Most pistol brass just seems to last a very long time to me how much longer than my bottleneck rifle brass.
I don’t bother sorting or counting
If it isn’t cracked when I load it, then it’s good to go, i shoot it at 3 gun matches so I usually lose it before I wear it out
I tried to keep track once. After 6 reloads I lost interest.
Indefinitely. But I don't have a plastic fantastic....
I much prefer to bring a 45 to gun games but I almost always bring a 9mm because you don't get a chance to pick up your brass very often, sometimes, but not always. I can't stand to see a 45ACP laying there that I can't pick up.
Zero....I got out of .40SW about 18 months ago. Can't say I miss it one bit
Sorry to be so unhelpful.....
When I was loading .40, I think I had about 6 firings on most of my brass. What was used for workups probably a few more. None more than 10 I'm sure. Used a Sig P229 and 165 gr loads that were somewhere between starting & max, but not real hot. I didn't have any issues with incredibly short case life or anything - don't remember culling much from inspection.
Those are some impressive numbers and a very good indication of the life expectancy of a 40S&W case.
I don't want to hijack the thread, but I think I should tap into all this 40S&W shooting/reloading experience. With so many rounds per month, I assume you have a go-to/standard load. I will appreciate it if you can share your load data for your standard load you use. If you are loading MAX, then maybe just the powder, primer, bullet and velocity will be enough, without the powder weight.
Actually, I like to test and try different things so I have gobs of different loads. I have a lawn landscape business so lots of free time in winter and couple that with my local outdoor range is free in the winter time and I see a drastic increase in the # of rounds I shoot in the winter months. That's what I've been shooting for the last 3 months or so. Been going 3-5 days a week since about Christmas. I will not shoot quite that much in summer time because of work.
The most accurate load I have found yet was something I just found in the last month. It's 180 grain Eggleston pc bullet, win spp, and 5.5 gr of True Blue col of 1.110. I assumed that a jacketed bullet would be my most accurate but that eggleston bullet shoots great in my XD service pistol.
I have three 50 cal ammo boxes, each is full with a load I worked up and determined to be accurate. I believe 1 is with 180 gr xtps, another with 155 gr extreme plated, and 1 is with a 165 gr jacketed bullet that I cant recall the name of at the moment. Those dont get shot. Building those up for a SHTF situation. I do the vast majority of my shooting from this shelf (see pic) with all these separate loads that I'm working up. I will probably make a large batch of the 180 grain Eggleston with True Blue as soon as I have enough cases together. Last picture is all the different bullets I have loaded for .40 in the last year I think.
I have no idea how many I get with auto rounds like others I usually loose them first and don't really keep count. I've got some 10mm that the headstamp is Unreadable
Thanks for sharing your load data. It seems we both just try different loads, although you operate on a much bigger scale. With those numbers I thought you were doing some competition shooting.
I have actually never loaded any cast bullets in 40S&W, but has been thinking about it due to the current .40 bullet cost. Lately I have been shooting pulled jacketed bullets, and also stumbled on a very accurate load. So far this is my most accurate load in 40s&w, and it is with pulled bullets. The range I tested from 7.5gr to 8.0gr actually was very consistent with the following groupings at 15yards: (1.17", 0.71", 0.55", 0.84", 0.68", 0.73")
0.71 0.55 0.84 0.68 0.73
40SW, P229, 3.9"
ARPulled, 155gr, FMJRNFP, Longshot, 7.7gr, CCI500
Velocities: 1134, 1152, 1159, 1148, 1147
Grouping @ 15yd: 0.55"
Test Date: 11/20/2018
Looks like you have a load using Longshot. Looks like 7.4gr with an Eggleston 165gr bullet. How does it perform?
Vaalpens, it looks like you have found a very accurate load. Prior to finding True Blue, I think my most accurate load for just about every bullet I have tried was with Longshot. I dont think I have shot many of that particular load yet,but it was the most accurate charge weight with that bullet and powder so I made a box of it. I'll try to remember to take that box with me in my next range trip. I do know its LOUD. It was accurate enough to warrant me making a box of it for further testing. Sorry I couldnt post chrono numbers with my data, apparently I didnt have the bulletproof model and my friends aren't as careful as I am. One day I'll get another.
Ive never loaded cast in .40 either, if you try the cast, please let me know how they do. Ive considered casting and powder coating just havent yet. Im very interested in your experience if you try it.
I am little bit confused here. You showed some Egglestone loads and according to Egglestone: Eggleston Munitions Polymer Coated Bullets are hard cast bullets with a tough polymer shell which encases the lead projectile.
It seems like they are cast bullets.
You are correct. They are cast. I meant traditional lubed cast bullets. I have never run any bare lead in a .40. I used to shoot 230 gr plain lead in 45 ACP but never in a .40. I would just be interested in how they do since it's a higher pressure round than 45 acp. I have contemplated casting my own and then powder coating since the Eggleston have performed so well as far as accuracy is concerned. If you attempt to cast your own or try some regular uncoated lead thats tradionally lubed or whatever, I would be interested in how that did Sorry. I wasn't more clear on the bare lead part. When I think of cast bullets I think of bare lead with lube grooves packed with some kind of hard waxy lube. I do realize the coated projectiles are hard cast lead but that's not what I think of when I think of cast bullets. Sorry if I was confusing.
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