Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by bushmaster1313, Jul 3, 2011.
Total U.S. per year
Total draws per total CCW permits
Very good question though.
While parked one night in a truck stop in Green River,Utah, I had a stranger approach my vehicle and start talking to me through the window. He smelt of liquor and was mumbling unintelligble words. I had my Glock 23, with a round in the chamber, pointed at him through the door all the while he was there. I was finally successful in getting to leave and the fool never knew how close he would have come to "meeting his maker" had he not staggered off into the night. The only time I have ever had my weapon out and pointed at someone while carrying for over ten years. Carried a gun for a living for seven years and had my hand on the grip frame twice, but did not have to present it
afterwards that I really did not want to actually kill him, I was cleared and got my gun back but I made a vow to myself to never shoot a man above the waist!
It was like a dream that takes a long time to get over. I shot him in the head with a 10mm hollow point, made an awful mess and he had only about 55% of skull attached to his neck afterwards. Drug addict came after me with a butcher knife, the other knife he threw stuck me in the upper thigh, That was my reasoning for the head shot + the adrenalin pumping and temporary lost my mind.
Same as I've used my fire extinguishers -- zero. Its one of those things you have with the hope you never need to use it!
Obliviously I'm not counting practice.
Of all the people I know who CCW regularly as private citizens, I can think of only one person who has had to draw their weapon (attempted mugging of two armed citizens, one mugger killed the other handed over to responding police).
So, of the people I know, that probably works out to something less than 1%.
Working in law enforcement, I also very rarely hear about people actually drawing their CCWs or using them. There can obviously be some skewing in that -- if drawing the weapon fixes the problem, perhaps people don't call the police at all, etc. -- but it's seems to be pretty low, in any case.
one shooting. The gentleman that received a .45acp to the sternum
tried to rob me in broad daylight with a piece of galvanized pipe. He
did, to my amazement, manage to survive.
That is so strange, I seen a pit run toward this guy and while the pit was running dude took out his piece and pointed at the pit, eeerrrrrrrrrrrrkk that pit stopped in his tracks then sidestepped it away while looking, poor pit seemed to be looking at the pistol while walking away. I would have never believed it if I didn't see it.
Gary Kleck's remarks on this subject.
His stats confirm the idea that sure, you can "carry" all the live long day. You'll never need that gun, ever.
Some fantasy you have that some criminal will offend against you, and you'll draw your CCW and frighten the BG, or shoot him, is basically a non-starter. It won't happen.
The reason I carry is because if you get unlucky, it tends to be really bad.
You're right. Every time I've mentioned that incident, people have been skeptical, "How did the dog know what a gun was?"
I think it's body language. Phil Shoemaker, who is a bear guide and lives in the Alaskan wilderness in bear country wrote an article on the every popular question, "What sort of gun should I carry in bear country?"
Interestingly, Phil commented that the most valuable thing about carrying a gun was that it gives you the confidence to send a message to the bear -- "I don't want to hurt you, but if you mess with me I'll hurt you bad."
So apparently that phenominon is not restricted to dogs.
I have never had to draw the weapon--I have placed my hand on the hostered weapon to make agressive pan-handlers back away.
You don't go running to report these things to the cops. It's best not to give some creep
a chance to lie about what you did & try to get you in a lot of trouble.
When I lived in Detriot it was against the law to branish a weapon to stop people from stealing things from your separate garage. You would go to jail & the crooks would would go back to the bar. I put a Brinks system on the house & garage & did not have any more trouble.
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