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How They're Made: Paper Shotshell Hulls

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by George P, Jun 1, 2021.

  1. George P

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    Nice short video how much process goes into making those lovely smelling paper shotshells

     
  2. JCooperfan1911

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    I haven't been able to source them in many years. They appear to have near collector status and their value is priced accordingly.
     
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    What's the advantage of paper? The video subtitles mention 'performance' in the 1st few seconds. Is it better extraction?

    Cool vid. I wasn't aware of all the curing steps.
     
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    Thank You, that was very interesting.
     
  5. George P

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    My friends who buy them and shoot them a LOT will swear they are softer shooting because of the paper compared to plastic. I think it might be more a mental thing, but that isn't always a bad thing
     
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    Plus, they sound so much cooler when hitting the ground on a range.

    I wonder what takes place in the two *conditioning rooms*?

    Too bad they glossed over the attachment of the bases. Likely though, they specifically don't want that detailed on film.

    It'd be fun to watch a *How It's Made* segment on these.

    Todd.
     
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    The wax on paper shells protects the chamber.
    I have had Browning chambers turn red by the time I got home from the Trap club when shooting plastic.
     
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    I was unaware they still loaded in paper. I’ll have to keep my eyes out, I’ve never seen them before.
     
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    Yes, Federal still loads paper shells, and they are prized by Trap and Skeet shooters. Not only for the softer recoil, (I too have noticed it) but the smell of a freshly fired paper hull is like crack! Very addictive! The Federal Gold Medal paper hulls were the best back in the day, and I shot many of them. I didn't reload them, but finding someone who'll take the hulls has never been a problem.
     
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    Fiocchi still offers a paper hull too. I picked up a flat or two several years ago. Love loading the paper hulls for my double barrels.
     
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    Just about all of my shotgunning is done with black powder, and black powder doesn't always play well with plastic hulls. I have a big supply of Cheddite paper hulls which last quite well, accept a roll crimp beautifully, and are honestly just more enjoyable to handle and use than plastic.
     
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  12. George P

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    I believe RIO and some of the UK makers also offer paper ammo
     
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    Another benefit is as with the old steel beer/soda cans... These hulls will pass away as soon as the wax gives up its hold.

    Then, nothing but the bases which amount to next to nothing in themselves.

    Two things that I truly LOATHE seeing in the wild; aluminum cans and plastic shotgun shell hulls.

    Todd.
     
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  14. George P

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    Trash of ANY kind in pristine areas always ticks me off
     
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    I agree with that.

    But at least when I see another of my peeves; the lowly cigarette butt, I can take comfort in the fact that aside from the filter, it'll quickly disappear.

    Oddly, I don't even mind the occasional brass casing as they seem somewhat *elemental* to me but plastic trash and aluminum trash hold a special; *it ain't never gonna go away:cuss:* place in the scheme.

    I would love to see paper shells and *non-toxic* shot really take off so that the prices may come down and availability go up.

    If shot-hunting were still as big as it once was in Europe, they'd have been a major leader in this.

    I am completely intrigued by the @.38special post about re-loading them with BP.

    Todd.
     
  16. JCooperfan1911

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    It's there to protect the paper but can offer benefits.

     
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  17. George P

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    Tries to help it form swelling/tearing
     
  18. JCooperfan1911

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    Exactly, and to protect against moistures.
     
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    I'm the same way. Seeing a few handfuls of obviously old brass on the ground doesn't bother me. Seeing a bunch of plastic hulls really ticks me off.

    And any metal cans or plastics from food/liquids = :cuss:
     
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  20. George P

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    Not necessarily; I used to live in northern NV where a humid day was 25%. Back in the early 90's while walking a trail to my deer area, I found an old Coors beer can- the steel ones where you needed the "church key" opener - the side facing up was faded, but the side turned underneath was almost as good as new - not bad for a can over 30 years old. Another time, friend and I were deer hunting and walking up a box canyon when we found an abandoned car from the 1930s. The tires were gone, but the wooden spoke wheels, while dried and gray, were intact as was the steel body. If we could have figured out a way to get it out of there...................then there was that Winchester lever gun found in NV in what is now a State/Federal Park, still intact
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    Point is, not all wood or metal disappears easily over time.
     
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    Last month the sporting clay course I goto had Federal Gold Medal Paper for range ammo at $13 a box. I only bought a few just to add what I already brought with. I regret not getting a bunch and use it sparingly. I do feel like I shot better with it, and yes that smell was amazing. Im assuming the plastic hull version smells differently? If they are hard to get I might have to order a bunch then
     
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    A guy I shoot Trap with every Friday said he went to a shoot that sold these paper Federal shells this Spring. They were $17 a box at the competition. Cool yes, but not at that price. I shot enough paper shells when I was a kid in Wisconsin. I can remember shooting the first plastic shells also.
     
  23. milsurpguy

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    I didn't know they still made paper shells and I have seen that box for sale, I'll get some next time I see them.
    I just want to try and reload them.
     
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    Great video.

    I retired from one of the top tissue manufacturing companies and it is amazing the number of processes making tissue products and shoshell tubes are similar, just the speed is different.
     
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