How to CC when hiking?

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Ive used a drop down leg holster hiking out in backwoods Appalachia for multiple day trips with good success. This is a good method especially if you are carrying a large pack, as a shoulder holster or anything around your waist could be irritating with a pack on. The only draw back is not being concealed
 
On a frame pack, you can remove the buckle from the left side of the waist belt. Slide a cheap Uncle Mike's belt holster with a retainer strap onto the waist belt, and re-thread the buckle. You can then carry an SP101 (or what have you) cross-draw. Your outer-shirt can be pulled up and over the waist belt (and holster) for concealment. When you take off your pack, simply pocket the revolver. Leave the holster attached to the frame pack.
 
I wouldn't use a shoulder holster when hiking, but thats just me. I usually have a larger pack on my back, then my camelbak slung across my chest, so extra straps would just be annoying.

I'd go with open carry if allowed. If you can't, then I'd have it in the pockets of my camelbak, but thats just what would work for me.
 
Hill People Gear Kit Bag - I love it.

I've seen their website, and the Kit Bag seems like a potential winner -- especially for carrying a bear defense gun while fishing in waders. Glad to hear it works well from someone who is using one, as well, since the world is full of things that look good in the manufacturer's advertising.

On the website they mention being able to integrate it with a backpack -- is that any pack, or just HPG's packs?
 
For day hikes and bicycle trails, I use the Maxpedition Jumbo bag with the concealed pistol pocket. For way off the beaten path, I'll wear a regular holster on my belt.
 
Most day hikes of 2-5 miles for me don't require a pack. I usually don't even carry water as most places I hike their are springs that are easily accessible. I carry an Ruger sp-101 with a 3 inch barrel in .357 mag., 1st shot is snake shot followed by 125 gr jsp if threat is human and 158 gr lswc if threat is bear(black). I usually carry open, but in the GSM I carry concealed due to the tree huggers and avoiding confrontation. I am there to enjoy myself.
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I understand the revolver stance. I went with the Glock because it doesn't seem to matter if you find yourself armpit deep in quicksand, it's still going to work. It's usually in the fanny pack in a clip type soft holster that is tied to the bottom of the bag with about 3-4 inches of cord so it pulls free easy but travels with the trigger covered loaded with the slide locked back. All it requires is to pull and knock down the slide lock with your thumb and you are ready to go.

Why would you carry any handgun with the slide locked back? You are inviting dirt and other nasties to get in there. What's the advantage?
 
big packs seem like they would be too much especially since I'm carrying a back pack. The smaller items like the safepacker seem to be a good choice since I can put them on my belt or my pack. They would tend to blend in with the pack.

A back pack and a front pack? I don't think that will work.
 
Why would you carry any handgun with the slide locked back? You are inviting dirt and other nasties to get in there. What's the advantage?
This is a Glock, so it has no safety other than the double trigger. Carrying it chambered would have me checking it all the time. Inside the fanny pack the pistol is in a soft belt holster that covers both the trigger and the open port. The holster is attached to the inside of the bag by a short cord. When I pull it, I don't have to wonder if there is a round chambered or not or wonder if I've unloaded it when I get off the trail or not. It is open with a full mag. So it's pretty easy and no guess work to pull and hit the slide lock. At that point I know for sure it is chambered and ready.
 
This is a Glock, so it has no safety other than the double trigger. Carrying it chambered would have me checking it all the time. Inside the fanny pack the pistol is in a soft belt holster that covers both the trigger and the open port. The holster is attached to the inside of the bag by a short cord. When I pull it, I don't have to wonder if there is a round chambered or not or wonder if I've unloaded it when I get off the trail or not. It is open with a full mag. So it's pretty easy and no guess work to pull and hit the slide lock. At that point I know for sure it is chambered and ready.

:rolleyes: That's the strangest method of carry i have ever heard. Why would you need to "check it all the time" if it were chambered? What is this guess work you speak of?
 
A back pack and a front pack? I don't think that will work.

It can work quite well. I've got just such a setup on my large (7000+ c.i.) backpack. Mine is just large enough to hold a full size 1911 along with other odds and ends that are handy to have easy access to (snacks, lip goo, whistle, etc). Mine attaches at two points (high and low) on one shoulder strap and about in the middle of the other shoulder strap and replaces the sternum strap. I bought mine years and years ago when Dana Design was still in business and I can't seem to find them now. But webbing is webbing, buckles are buckles, and it'd be easy enough to rig any number of small pouches in a similar manner.

Heck, even my fishing setup is a modular backpack/chestpack setup where you can wear it with either or both of the components. It's pretty fishing oriented in its details, but you can get the idea if you check it out: http://www.fishpondusa.com/doublehaul.cfm. It holds a pocket pistol quite nicely in an "extra"/hidden compartment in front that gives me quick access yet good security/retention and it'd hold a full size pistol up front if I left most of my fly boxes at home (ain't gonna happen :cool:).

ETA: out of curiosity I just tried and a full size 1911 fits nicely in that same front pouch.
 
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My Unsolicited Advice:

This is a Glock, so it has no safety other than the double trigger. Carrying it chambered would have me checking it all the time.

When I was first starting to carry, I was really concerned about carrying a 1911 cocked and locked, or a glock with a round chambered, so I totally understand what you're saying about the feeling to check it. My understanding is, with the Glocks, you have to pull dead center on the trigger to get it to fire. Besides, if you have some kind of holster that covers the trigger guard, you should be AOK. After a while, you get used to it.

Inside the fanny pack the pistol is in a soft belt holster that covers both the trigger and the open port. The holster is attached to the inside of the bag by a short cord

OK, you've got the open chamber covered, so you're good for debris, but you also have the trigger covered, so you don't really need to worry about the open chamber. You're just adding another step, with a few drawbacks, but I'll get to that in a minute.

When I pull it, I don't have to wonder if there is a round chambered or not or wonder if I've unloaded it when I get off the trail or not.

First, you should never wonder about the state of your pistol. Its either loaded, or it isn't. Remember, the first life safety rule: ALL guns are ALL WAYS LOADED. Even though my gun has a loaded chamber indicator, I still double and triple check, and physically confirm (both by touching the empty chamber, and counting my ammo to make sure all rounds are accounted for.) Personally, I think it would be way to easy to get complacent with that style of carry, and assume that because the slide is locked back, you're empty. Either way, you should KNOW if its loaded or not. If you're unsure, press check, and either way, treat it likes it loaded.

It is open with a full mag

IMVHO, that is tactically unsound. I don't know which Glock you are carrying, but you're limiting yourself by one round. Doesn't sound like much, but I figure guns are like seat-belts, fire extinguishers, and those little float bags you put on the end of a kayak paddle: You don't need them very often, but when you do, you Really need them. There
s no garuntee that you'll be able to get to your extra mags, or the mag in the gun won't malfunction. The more ammo you can have on hand, ready to go, the better.

So it's pretty easy and no guess work to pull and hit the slide lock.

I'd be concerned about how easy it is to close the slide when you're carrying it. I knwo the slide release is probably covered, but guns usually will go back into battery after you slap the bottom of the magazine. I'm not saying that if you trip and fall the gun WILL go into battery and chamber a round. I'm not even saying its likely, just pointing out the possibility. I'd also be concerned about how much harder it may be to get a good grip on the gun when you're drawing, and how easy it would be for the slide to get caught on something.

At that point I know for sure it is chambered and ready.

Unless something happens, and you end up with a double feed, the magazine disconnected, something got into the ejection port while drawing, or you're at contact distance, and the BG grabs the gun, preventing it from going into battery.

Like I said, I understand why you may feel better carrying the gun in slide lock. I don't think that's the "wrong" way to carry a gun, it sound like you've put some effort into making it as safe as possible, and I respect both safety and thinking outside the box.

Keep in mind, I'm the kind of guy who ALWAYS offers his advice, and doesn't know when to shut up, so yes, I did go through, and dissect your post, and pick apart everything you said, but I'm just trying to be helpful.

Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson
 
To the OP:

I know a guy who has the Hill People Gear thing and swears by it. I've heard a few (unverified) horror stories about our County Prosecutor, and his feelings towards open carry, so I try to conceal whenever possible. (They are unverified, and I don't remember the specifics. I think it was only one or two people that I've heard of being hassled for it.)

The last big hike I went on, I carried a J-Frame .38, and it rode quite nicely in either my pants pockets or the chest pocket of my REI rain jacket. I've been trying to find a way to conceal the gun, carry it on my hip, and not have the hip straps interfere. I've been thinking that I might be able to position the gun just above or below the strap, and wear a shirt or vest over the gun.

I've carried a gun in my camelback/daypack before, but wasn't crazy about the limited access. Appendix carry might be an option with a shorter firearm, or a chest or shoulder rig might work pretty well.

It appears I have to do some testing on this matter.

Wow, that wasn't very helpful at all, was it?

Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson
 
I forgot to add earlier, I've also carried my J-frame in a cargo pocket, with a pocket holster. I rarely wear cargos, but sometimes they'll make an appearance for short day hikes.
 
I put a rocket in my pocket. M&P 340 in a Mica or Desantis pocket holster when I backpack or day hike in the warmer months.
 
I bought mine years and years ago when Dana Design was still in business and I can't seem to find them now.

The founder of Dana Design went on to start up Mystery Ranch, which is still in business (and doing incredible packs and accessories), though I don't know if they do a chest pouch set up.
 
Thanks HorseSoldier. I'd forgotten that Dana had set up his new shop. I'll throw out a free add for him for anyone who is looking for a pack- his stuff is absolutely top notch. My Terraplane pack turned 20 years old this year and I don't see that I'll ever wear it out. I remember his warranty statement back in the D.D. years was something along the lines of "yes, we fully warranty our gear, but warranties do you no good when your gear fails you out in the field. We build our gear so that won't happen." Good stuff. I'll wholeheartedly endorse anything that comes out of his shop.

Interesting to see the military line of gear he is making now. Have you seen any of his stuff deployed?
 
This is a Glock, so it has no safety other than the double trigger. Carrying it chambered would have me checking it all the time. Inside the fanny pack the pistol is in a soft belt holster that covers both the trigger and the open port. The holster is attached to the inside of the bag by a short cord. When I pull it, I don't have to wonder if there is a round chambered or not or wonder if I've unloaded it when I get off the trail or not. It is open with a full mag. So it's pretty easy and no guess work to pull and hit the slide lock. At that point I know for sure it is chambered and ready.

That's just silly.

If you don't understand or trust how a Glock works, choose a gun type you do understand and trust.
 
Is OC legal in your state? When I'm in the woods, having my gun concealed is not a worry. I like the shoulder holster idea. Typically if I'm hiking I have a Tac vest with all my gear (water, snacks, 1st aid kit, etc) and. Y particular vest has a holster attached to the front, so it resides there.
If not, I wear a standard hip holster.
 
I like the waist pack also. You can also carry the small survival essentials in it, as well as gorp and other small niceties, and they stay with you if you remove your main pack. Worn in front, everything is accessible, even with your main pack on.
A added bonus is that the gun is completely protected, yet accessible.
 
I've done most of the Appalachian Trail, Horseshoe and Warrior trails, the Flint River in Georgia, and the Ozark Highland Trail (and I'm a retired Infantryman -- go figure.)

I tend to carry a belt pouch with my pack, threaded on the pack belt. My Colt Detective Special rides in there.

On the other hand, here in Arkansas it's nearly always hunting season, and I often openly carry my Colt Woodsman.
 
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