Thicker neck? I have formed 8mm57 cases from everything 30/06, then there are those that do not measure before and again after and do not do research, the 8mm57 chamber has a generous? neck. Reminds me of a ‘few’ friends, they wanted 280 Remington rifles, they had a 280 Remington reamer, and that is all that was required to chamber a 7mm57 to 280 Remington, they thought.
After a trip to the range they discovered the ‘generous’ neck diameter of the 7mm57, the new creation (280 Remington) had two different neck diameters, seems the 280 Remington reamer did not clean up all of the old chamber. Other friends wanted 30/06 chambers, they had the reamer and a rifle chambered in 308 Winchester, again, the 30/06 reamer did not clean up the old 308 W chamber.
I am putting a couple of bench rest type rifles together, and I was told “All you gotta do is.....”, then I ask to see the fired cases and of course no one has fired cases, seems all the experience comes from the Internet in the form of memory work.
Forming 8mm57 from 30/06:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/77...57mm-mauser-8mm-mauser-from-30-06-springfield
OR
http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=RC15565
Forming with a forming die requires the ‘man tool’ the hack saw, and the file, I have hundreds of air craft counter sinks, I do not recommend them to a reloader.
After forming and trimming it is necessary to full length size to minimum length unless the person going the forming understands it is possible to place the shoulder exactly where they want they want it, meaning when forming a case like the 8mm57 from 30/06 the length of the 8mm57 from the head of the case to its shoulder can off set the length of the chamber if the person knows ‘the length of the chamber from the bolt face to the shoulder of the chamber’, If the reloader is a case former there is no excuse for not knowing the length of the chamber. The shoulder of the 30/06 is erased and becomes part of the shoulder and neck, the shoulder of the 8mm57 is formed .121 thousandths further back than the shoulder of the 30/06, the reloader that is a case former can and should be able to off set the difference in length between the chamber and and case, or they can mindlessly pull the handle, raise the ram and full length sized the case, then go to the range and fire form.
As to choices, again, the best investment is the 308 Winchester trim/form die, I do not recommend the 308 W trim/form die to reloaders for anything but forming 308 W cases.
F. Guffey