How to sort 22lr to eliminate flyers?

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Anyone here sort 22lr ammo to eliminate flyers? If so could you explain the best way to do it. I have reloading equipment electronic scales calipers etc.
 
I've sorted ammo by weight, bullet diameter, and rim thickness. I've never gotten any definative results. In most cases the unsorted shot just as good or better than sorted.

Now I just buy good ammo to start with. K.I.S.S.
 
I have seen equipment that is used to test the uniformity of the brass, the trueness of the projectile to the brass, and the trueness of the projectile being in round. I also have seen equipment used to true the projectiles. I have never used any of these. I just shoot them.

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Best bet is by weight on a three decimal digital scale, and group them. Shoot in batches.

Sounds like what I was thinking.

Now I just buy good ammo to start with. K.I.S.S.

The best I can afford to shoot regularly is Wolf Match Target...what do you consider "good ammo" and what have you found to be the best?
 
One guy that takes his .22 shooting fairly seriously once told me I was stupid for buying the bulk boxes where the rounds are all just jumbled in. Sure it's cheaper. But he made a good point about the jumbling around of the ammo loosening the bullets in the brass and very likely knocking a lot of the bullets out of line with the brass. His point was that we don't need to buy match grade target ammo all the time. But at least give the basic factory stuff a fighting chance by buying it in the 50 round boxes where they are protected from shipping and handling knocks.

I may still buy bulk packs now and then but I won't rely on them to be as accurate as the boxed stuff.
 
I know lots of benchrest shooters that have been chasing the secret for years with no 100% guaranteed fix. I'm sure they would love to hear that someone chime in, also.
 
Some years ago I shot a bunch of NRA conventional pistol .22 and centerfire (Bullseye) and came into possession of 5000 rounds of WW Super X .22LR roundnose (single lot number) that shot pretty good. I weighed all of those rounds and segregated them into +/- 0.1 grain batches while watching TV in the evenings.
I shot it by weight lots and all shot pretty much the same except the lightest maybe 0.3 g lots which gave me maybe 1/20 or 1/30 FtF. Glad I didn't shoot them in the matches but what a PITA to dig thorough all the others to find the 100-200 group of flakey ones that were sort of crappy.
Had maybe one or two FtF out of the other 4800 rounds that couldn't be attributed to a dirty or otherwise faulty gun (Ruger MarkII)
 
I think sorting by weight would be waste of time.
So, if you have variance in weight, what do you attribute it to.
Everything I have read on the subject says sorting by any means is a waste of time. The only way to determine what shoots better is by testing ammo.
What works best for you in .22lr is not a question anyone can answer.

The are couple of bullet uniformer and reforming dies out there for .22lr. Some swear by them and other say not worth the time.

Read on .22lr benchrest and accuracy. They get into some seriously diminishing returns.
 
Sounds like what I was thinking.

The best I can afford to shoot regularly is Wolf Match Target...what do you consider "good ammo" and what have you found to be the best?

As long as Wolf is what your gun likes, that's fine (that's what I used for Silhouette competition in both a CZ-452 and a Henry H001T). There is better ammo out there and you should treat yourself to at least a few hundred rounds of "the good stuff" just to see if your gun likes it.
 
Let me give an example of my current shooting. This is 25 shots at 50yrds with my Savage MKII BV in 5-10mph winds right to left shot from a cheap gun rest from a concrete shooting table ammo was Wolf Match Target:

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target with rifle:
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I want to improve on this, could be ammo, or the shooter (probably both). But these results are typical.
 
Its not the ammo, heres my iron sight groups at 100yds with Wolff
Either your rifle doesnt like Wolf ,its your rifle or its the shooter
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