How Unintentional Discharges Happen

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Far away and long ago in another life I was an instructor at a parachuting school. The guy who owned the business was also the FAA investigator for parachuting accidents in the state, so I got the inside scoop. (What you read in the papers about parachuting accidents is NEVER true.) Invariably, there would be more safety rule violations than there were safety rules. In the same state we had a drop zone that was notorious. Scared the crap out of me. Went there and made one jump and never went back.
 
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And experience 3 leads me to say we need a rule 5 about never assuming what somebody else is doing.

Yes, that's another something to watch all right!

I was also surprised at how many of the incidents involved gun owners allowing clueless folks to have access to or to handle live firearms without first making sure the newcomers understood the safety rules.

An interesting old thread semi-related to this point: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=72328 Post #38 is spot-on and makes some good points. Range safety and firearms safety is everyone's concern, not just the job of the range employees.

Similarly, P95Carry made a good post (#4) in this thread: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=83880 P95 told the story of hunting with a stranger who crossed a fence with a loaded gun -- a serious hunting no-no -- and who also had his finger on the trigger while doing so. "The gun fired" as the stranger got hung up on the fence. (The rest of that thread is chock-full of serious and not-so-serious hunting accidents, mostly the result of Rule 4 violations.) Again, the immediate cause of the unintentional discharge was that the stranger broke a cardinal rule of safe hunting by crossing a fence with a loaded gun, and also by having his finger on the trigger. But the accident probably could have been prevented by watching the newcomer more closely to be sure he was behaving in a safe manner.

From the same thread, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=83880 Post #18. A 4 year old girl and her 8 ear old brother were alone in a room. Their dad's loaded revolver was also in the room with them. The 8 year old picked up the gun and pointed it at his sister, saying he was going to shoot her. She dared him to and he did, striking her left leg just below the kneecap. The poster made a point of observing that the 8 year old had been exposed to the gun safety rules and supposedly knew better than to do what he did. Causes: leaving a loaded firearm where irresponsible people (children in this case) could access it.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=179008 post #9 tells the story of a 12-year-old boy who was shot by his father. The father was working on a little .22 rifle on the firing line of a basement range. The boy moved in front of the rifle just as the father closed the breech of the rifle. The father's pinky finger brushed the trigger just as he brushed the block home with his thumb, dropping the hammer. The round hit the floor and ricocheted into the child's leg. Causes: the kid was forward of the firing line while a rifle was being handled. Also, we have another case of people handling firearms without being aware of what other people are doing; the father didn't know the kid had moved in front of him and was thus unaware that the muzzle was no longer pointed in a safe direction (rule 2) while he worked on the loaded rifle.

Similarly, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=179008 post #11 tells the story of one kid running right in front of another kid while the second kid was shooting. Don't go forward of the firing line would have prevented that one, as would Be sure of your target (Rule 4, which properly includes everything behind the target and everything between the shooter and the target).

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=179008 Post #12 A young man got shot in the side of the knee with a rubber bullet from a 12 gauge. He was talking to a group of police officers when one of them was unloading the shotgun at the end of that officer's shift. The officer ejected all the rounds he thought he had loaded at the beginning of the shift, then closed the action and pulled the trigger with the muzzle pointed down -- but not far enough down. The rubber round had been left in the gun by a previous user and the officer had failed to check that the gun was completely empty before loading the internal magazine at the beginning of his own shift. Causes: an empty gun (rule 1). Unsafe direction (rule 2). No rule 3 violation because the officer did choose a specific target (the ground) -- he just wasn't a good enough shot to hit it!

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=246172 A man putting his pistol into a shoulder holster accidentally shot and killed himself while at the shooting range. The news report noted that a similar shooting, also involving a shoulder holster, had happened at the same range a few months before that event, but in that earlier case the shooter lived. Without more details it is impossible to say for sure exactly what went wrong in these two cases, but if the shoulder holster were slightly floppy, the man may have used the muzzle of the gun to bring the holster mouth out from his side, pointing the muzzle directly at the left side of his chest in the process. The other shoulder-holster possibility for a fatal mistake involves pointing the gun at the shooter's own brachial artery in the upper arm during the reholster process; however, the news reports specified a chest injury. Regardless of the specific location of the muzzle, reholstering injuries very typically happen when the shooter's finger is on the trigger while holstering. Cause: Unsafe direction (rule 2), most probably with the shooter's finger on trigger (rule 3).

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=119322 A two-year-old child was accidentally shot when a house guest bent down. The gun in the guest's pocket accidentally fired, striking him in the hand and the toddler in the shoulder. The gun was a derringer-type pistol. Cause: pocket gun without a trigger-covering holster.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=246201 tells the stories of five different accidental shootings. Details on some of them are a bit spotty, and my suspicion is that one of them (the last#5) wasn't an accident but rather a suicide.

Incident #1: a 23-year-old man was cleaning his believed-to-be unloaded handgun with a Q-tip as he sat on the couch with his girlfriend beside him and friends in the room. The muzzle was resting on the man's lower pelvis and his middle finger was on the trigger. "Suddenly, it went off," the article reports, and the man later opined that, had the gun's safety been on, he would not have gotten shot.

Incident #2: a 47-year-old man was drinking with friends when he decided to show off his handgun. He handed the gun to a friend, and as the friend gave it back to him, he commented, "Don't be afraid, it's got a double safety." He then began pulling the trigger while the gun was pointed at his own body. On the fourth pull, "the gun went off," killing him.

Incident #3: a 19-year-old man accidentally shot himself while seated in a vehicle, as he readjusted the pistol in his pocket. The bullet struck him in his left pinkie and then entered and exited his left thigh.

Incident #4: A 40-year-old poacher accidentally shot himself in the stomach with a 12-gauge shotgun.

Incident #5: a 22-year-old man accidentally shot himself in the head in his home.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=63120 A 13-year-old boy shot his 7-year-old brother in the head as they played cops & robbers. The 7-year-old died from his injuries. The boys were home alone in a house without a phone, and when the shooting occurred, the older boy carried his brother next door to get help.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=73768 A woman found a shotgun under a couch while cleaning. As she tried to figure out whether the gun was loaded, she operated the slide, putting a round into the chamber. Her finger was on the trigger and "the gun went off." The round struck the 1-year-old daughter of her roommate, killing the baby.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=50659 A female security guard who worked the night shift was asleep when her otherwise unsupervised 4-year-old son shot his 3-year-old brother in the face at close range, killing him. The mother reported that her loaded gun was locked inside the family safe, and that the 4-year-old must have found the key and unlocked the safe to get the gun. She did not awaken when the gun fired; the 4-year-old woke her up some time after the shooting had happened.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=49380 A 10 year old girl was shot in the butt by her police-officer father as he was cleaning his service weapon, a .357 Sig semi-auto. He finished cleaning and the gun "discharged accidentally as he was putting it back together," according to the news reports (post #16). Causes: ammunition in the room while cleaning, assembling, or dry-firing a gun. An unloaded gun (rule 1) and pointing the gun in an unsafe direction (rule 2) while handling it. Possibly a Rule 3 violation, finger on trigger; news reports weren't clear of course but also make no mention of any possible mechanical malfunctions.

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And then there are the hunting stories.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=83880 Multiple stories, most involving hunters and Rule 4 violations.

THR, 2004 http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=100370 A 12-year-old boy was killed when he was shot in the head with a shotgun by his 10-year-old cousin during a dove hunt. There were about 13 family members on the hunting trip. When a few birds flew overhead, the shooters stood up and began firing. The boy who was killed walked in front of the muzzle of his cousin's gun. Causes: youngsters hunting too close together, possibly with too little adult supervision. Rules 2 & 4 violation by the 10 year old.

THR, 2004 http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=83880 Multiple stories. Post #2 A hunting guide's female client climbed into his truck without first emptying her rifle. He asked her if her rifle was empty; she replied that it was. With the rifle pointed at the ceiling of the truck, she clicked the safety off (in order to open the bolt of her Remington 700) and the gun fired, breaking the windshield of the truck. Learning points: No one was harmed because the gun was pointed in a safe direction (rule 2) when the mechanism malfunctioned. Nevertheless, you do not want to be sitting inside a closed vehicle when a rifle fires -- so empty your rifle before you get into the vehicle. And place only guarded trust in mechanical safeties.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=603693&postcount=10 Two men were hunting together. They had been hunting together for many years, and had been best friends for over 30 years. The shooter heard some ruffling, looked through his rifle scope, thought he saw horns, and pulled the trigger. He hit the other man directly in the chest, killing him instantly. The two men were roughly 180 yards apart, and the man who was shot was wearing a blaze orange jacket. Rule 4 of course.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=146925 A man went to shoot a possibly-rabid raccoon in the garage of his home. The man's 2-year-old daughter darted in front of the rifle as the man was firing. The bullet struck the toddler in the head and killed her. Causes: an unsupervised child. near a loaded gun And a Rule 4 violation, though not in the usual sense: Rule 4 includes being aware of everything that might come between you and the target, as well as what the target is and whether there is a safe backstop behind it. The child should have been kept inside the house while her father 'hunted' in the garage, since she was not old enough to know not to run in front of the rifle, and since rabid animals are very unpredictable.

Related to the above, it's long been my opinion that there is no such thing as supervising a child while you are the one shooting. IMO, if you take a minor child to the range, your ONLY job is to keep the child from doing something dangerously foolish around the guns. You cannot fire a weapon and supervise a child at the same time. So if you take a kid to the range on a day when you want to shoot as well, bring another adult along. Or wait until the kid has been to the range enough times and knows the rules well enough that he really-and-truly can be expected to follow them with only minimal or occasional supervision.

pax
 
SERIOUS wake-up call. It should really make us think about the ugly things that can happy when we get sloppy. THANK YOU for the eye-openers!

I did a no-no myself recently. Thankfully, there was no ND, but as soon as I pulled the trigger, I KNEW I'd messed up. I'd been cleaning my Ruger P89, got it assembled, and headed upstairs to store it. Going up the stairs, I cycled the slide and dry-fired down toward the stairs, I instantly remembered inserting the mag before I got up from the table, I was very glad I hadn't reloaded the mag, because as I dry-fired, my cat was racing me up the stairs, and had it been loaded, I would have killed her.

Inattention, inappropriate dry-fire setting, not sure of what was around me, and a really guilty feeling that I'm still dealing with because of the "what could have happened".
 
A typically great post from Pax. Thanks.

I second those who have posted that "high concentration sports" (climbing, shooting, diving, etc.) seem to evolve a similar ethos with regards to human imperfection and mechanical fragility, and that habits of mind formed in one will often carry over well to the others.

Also: is it just me, or do a disproportionate number of the ND stories seem to involve semi-auto pistols? More mechanically complex, harder to visually inspect ... seems like this might be an argument for other action types. (Although not necessarily a persuasive argument ...)
 
slightly unrelated

My wife has occasionally made the suggestion that if I am going deer hunting, I ought to invest in some bullet resistant underwear. Bottle necked handgun cartridges and all center fire rifles are banned for deer hunting here, leaving us with muzzle loaders, shotgun slugs, and straight walled pistol cartridges, so the idea might be workable.

Any opinions?
 
My ND was the somewhat typical "check the chamber" without checking the chamber. All I did was load a round in the chamber because the full mag was still in the gun. Fortunately I pointed the gun intentionally in a safe direction and now I have a hole in my wall.

When you get too comfortable with firearms, you need to have routine to make certain you don't foul up. In fact, PAX, I'd like to see a sticky for gun noobs about that. I have a routine that I follow EXACTLY every time I handle an auto-loading pistol or rifle:

1. drop magazine.
2. open slide and look through magazine well to ground (this is a redundant step that will save your butt if you forget step 1.) and also inspect the chamber.
3. close slide and repeat step 2. This way, if you have screwed up step 1. and step 2., you will see the round you loaded in step 2 eject and know you are about to pull an ND.

The exact thing I did happened to a friend of mine, and almost happened to my sister. It is probably so common that I don't think it is a good idea any more to simply state "check that the gun is unloaded", but to teach redundant routines that will 99.99999999% make sure that the gun is in fact unloaded as desired. Sure would have helped me.
 
Bump to add a new one, found at http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=272179

From his description of events, both rifles were unchambered but both had three rounds in the magazine. He unloaded three rounds from his rifle, wiped it down, and then placed it in the case under the seat. He then unloaded two rounds out of my rifle and failed to notice that the 3rd round had entered the chamber. He slid the bolt back and forth several times to ensure it was cleared and then wiped down the barrel and receiver area. When we store these rifles, we usually hold the trigger down when we drop the bolt to take the pressure off of the spring. He held the trigger down as usual, and when he dropped the bolt the rifle immediately fired.

After he settled down from the shock of the moment, he said he made one dangerous mistake that he believes directly led to this AD/ND. When he checked his rifle, he put his pinky finger into the chamber to verify that there was no round in the barrel before he dropped the bolt. This is standard practice for both of us given the way we store the rifles. When he finished my rifle, he did not check the chamber and just assumed there was no round because the bolt did not eject one. We both think that the ejector failed to grab the round and pull it out, and as a result, the rifle slam fired the round when he dropped the bolt.

No injury resulted, because the rifle was pointed at a berm. Unfortunately, it was pointed at a berm through a vehicle door (resting on a truck seat), so there was some expensive property damage.

Cause: not checking the chamber by hand and eye after unloading.

pax
 
I know one of these guys personally. He was just retelling his story to a group of shooters not three weeks ago. I couldn't help but chuckle at a very serious topic when I came across his story and realized who it was.

Diligence, Diligence, Diligence.

Your enemy is complacency.
 
A note on safe backstops - a 17" picture tube monitor or picture tube television will contain most handgun rounds. Slightly larger picture tubes (24") will often contain intermediate caliber centerfire rifle rounds.

You may not want to shoot your TV; but if you need to drop the hammer in your house and want a backstop that can contain it if you have missed one of the other three rules, then TVs or Monitors using picture tubes do well thanks to their thick glass. Naturally, flat-screens, LCDs, plasmas, projection TVs and others that don't have that thick glass monitor may not be so helpful.
 
I typically use the TV as a backstop for my revolver. It's consistently remained unloaded while doing so, so the TV's continued to work just fine.

Just as a FYI - you need quite a big TV/Monitor to stop a 7.62x54. Shot an old Macintosh with a 17" inch screen (the big, old monsters that also worked as a computer). One magazine from the M44 and it was shredded.
 
alsaqr ~

No, they're unintentional discharges -- a term which includes both negligent and accidental discharges.

Yes, there is such a thing as an accidental discharge which is not negligent. That would be a mechanical malfunction of the firearm, during which none of the Four Rules are broken -- no finger on the trigger, firearm remains pointed in a safe direction, and so on. No negligence was committed, but nobody pulled the trigger and nobody intended to shoot. There are at least two stories above of truly accidental discharges which were not a bit negligent. (And, incidentally, those stories provide Damn Good Incentive to follow the four rules at all times, not just when you are preparing to shoot.)

And then there are negligent discharges, which comprise the vast majority of unintentional shots, especially the unintentional shots described in this thread. Someone broke at least two of the four basic rules -- assuming the gun is unloaded, pointing it somewhere stupid, putting a finger on the trigger -- and greater or lesser harm resulted based on either sheer dumb luck, or upon some vestigial remnant of the other rules.

Some accidental discharges include a negligent factor. The most notable example of that is the horrible story of the mom with the Remington 700, who shot her own child when her rifle broke. The discharge itself was pure accident, not negligence. She did not pull the trigger and had absolutely NO reason to believe the gun would fire. She was being careful. But the harm that resulted was due at least in part to her negligence in allowing the rifle to point in an unsafe direction while she was handling it.

So that's why I used the title I did. "Unintentional discharges" covers all the possibilities, whether it's purely accidental, purely negligent, or some mixture of the two.

pax
 
how about the case of Maxfield v. Bryco Arms

http://www.brandonsarms.org/inthenews/releases/news050224.php

a 12 year old, unloading a pistol fires a shot that paralyzes a 6 year old... the parents sue the gun manufacturer claiming the gun was defective because the safety must be turned off before the gun could be unloaded... of course no one blames the parents that left the gun in reach of the kids, or the kid that pointed the gun at the 6 year old
 
Oh, Geronimo:

Reminds me of the time I made sure that I had the funds to replace a shot TV set if necessary, and that the (two) walls between the TV set and the outdoors were nicely thick and dense.

The TV show in which I was interested came on, and I did try to snap my revolver at some ugly images there, but was so safety-conscious that I flipped the cylinder out and looked down the barrel before snapping, and so missed all of the good opportunities.

The TV show of which I speak was the the Juanita Broadrick interview. Better put some ice on that, and all.
 
I think the biggest problem with using your TV for a backstop while dry firing is that the TV itself is a distraction.

Distractions while dry-firing often lead to ungood consequences. See above ...

pax
 
Heres one I remember, it happened in Knoxville Tenn many years ago.
A guy had stopped in a convenience store and had just set a pepsi and a bag of chips on the counter when a .45 ACP slug broke the window and drilled into his head killing him instantly.

The bullet had come from a gunsmith's workshop across the highway.

The smith was trying to free up the slide of a rusted solid 1911.
He had the gun in a vice and soaked with penetrating oil and had just lightly tapped the slide with a mallet when the gun went off.
The bullet traveled about three to four hundred yards after tearing through the front wall of the shop.
 
...shot herself in the leg while she was reholstering her gun...

I find it easy to get the point across to guys* by saying, "There are two things you do quickly in one direction, but in the other, you want to do as carefully as you can: zipping-up your fly and reholstering your gun."

I think most guys have once and ONLY ONCE caught their wedding tackle in their fly by overzealously zipping up too-quickly, linking the following advice to empathetic painful memories:

"Reholster your gun like you'd zip up your fly: you don't ever want anything getting caught where it shouldn't."

...jammed the gun into the holster quickly...

When I reholster, I have a mental image of a very-proficient shooter I took a class along with, who was lightning from the holster but like a snail, on the reholster. He explained that a while back, when reholstering, a piece of his shirt got into the holster (OWB kydex) and hung up the trigger of his Glock, blowing the holster apart but otherwise resulting in no injury to him, because he had both properly pointed the gun and properly attached a well-functioning holster.

Great thread, Pax, although I suggest you add another violation to the female trying lefty ND: rule 2, pointing the gun at something she didn't intend to shoot. If she didn't point the gun at herself while reholstering, the ND wouldn't have struck her in the leg, just as it didn't to the guy in my class.

It seems like reholstering is a prime time for an ND, especially with Glocks. I've heard that a downside to all-leather holsters can be that if they collapse when the gun is out, it may take your weak-side hand to open it back up to assist the reholster (dangerous), otherwise it might take having to cant the muzzle into your body to get the holster back open and the gun in (rule 2 violation). Similarly, certain holster/belt combinations can allow the gun to cant dangerously toward the body, covering your thigh/leg with the muzzle (again, rule 2). From experience, this seems exacerbated by using flimsy belts with OWB holsters. Since I became aware of this issue, it's easy to look down my Glock's tritium sights, sitting inside my IWB holster, and verify that the gun doesn't actually point at my body. I'd suggest everyone that carries, check this, also.




*Though female shooters may benefit from the mental imagery, they can't feel the empathy, YMMV :)
 
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