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How versitle is a .22 LR - really?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Big Bill, Mar 2, 2009.

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  1. Big Bill

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    Lately, ever since seeing a presentation on CCI .22 manufacturing process on The Outdoor Channel, I've had the .22 rifle (and pistol) bug. They are manufacturing .22 LR cartridges with all kinds of versatility and power. So, my question is this: Do you think your ideas and attitudes about the .22 LR have changed along with all the improvements of the cartridges. And, what do you know about the .22 caliber now that you didn't know 10 years ago. And also, do you feel more capable as a hunter and for personal defense with a .22 LR than you used to?

    For example: Have any of you used CCIs Segmented Hollowpoint?

    CCI Segmented Hollow Point

    Product Description

    The same performance numbers as Stinger® but loaded with a special segmented bullet. Excellent for medium varmints like rock chucks and woodchucks. (part #0064)

    FEATURES & BENEFITS - USAGE

    1640 feet/sec—same as Stinger
    Special 32 grain segmented hollow point bullet; breaks into
    four large pieces on impact
    Clean-burning propellants keep actions cleaner
    Sure-fire CCI priming
    Reusable plastic box with dispenser lid

    Look at these two links...

    http://www.cci-ammunition.com/ballistics/detail.aspx?loadNo=0064

    http://www.cci-ammunition.com/ballistics/detail.aspx?loadNo=0074
     
  2. Big Bill

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    BTW, I'm sure other manufacturers have similar products. What do you use in your .22 and how do they work for killing varmints, game animals and vermin.
     
  3. PT1911

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    personally I like stingers through my 10/22 and my p-22.. it makes it feel like a completely different gun. I actually have to be careful when shooting small game... placement is extremely important as they tend to tear them up... will throw a 10 pound turtle for a loop as well.. I hear the velocitors hit even harder, but I havent personally tried them yet...
     
  4. Big Bill

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    I've personally got lots of various .22 LR loads including stingers and velocitors among others. But, I quit hunting with my .22s a long time ago. Now, however, I'm thinking that perhaps I should get back to doing more than just plinking. It may just come in handy for getting stew meat if TSHTF.
     
  5. husker

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    it has to win hands down!! everybody makes the 22 round in every imaginable way you can think of. and cci gots to be at the top i would think. then you go to all the different types of rifles and pistals it never ends. its a great cal for yotes and smaller. As for home defens. lots and lots of people have succumbed to the 22cal. My first choice no. if its all i had. id still sleep just as fine. good thred
     
  6. jim in Anchorage

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    :)Turtles:) I think the real beauty of the 22 is it taught generations of Americans to shoot,rather than being a real"using firearm" Cheap ammo,no recoil,etc.
     
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    i like the cci volocitors 40 grain but the boxes i have dont tell you how many feet per seconds. They are fast. i would like to no whats the fastest 22 long. THANKS gone go get me some.
     
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    Ihave no probs using 22's, I love them. those are decent, but check the cci sgb bullets as well, a segmenting lead chunk, that uses a regular 22lr case. I am not a fan of the stinger case, in a 22 rifle, unless it is a bolt rifle. and the stingers also use lighter bullets, I like a heavier 22. my fave is the massive Aguila sniper sss round, a 60 grain chunk of lead; most rifles can't shoot them, because they keyhole almost instantly, but my old remmy speedmaster loves them.
    the best ammo is Aguila in my opinion, which is made by Eley, but much cheaper, try their hi velocity solids and hollow points, amazing accuracy for a hunting round; and the best is their interceptor round, a true 40 grain 22lr round, in a true 22 lr case; but it develops about 1500 fps from the muzzle.
    This is simply mind blowing, and i have shot it at a piece of 6x6 wood, explosive out the back side.
    another dude did a test ono here recently at 300 yards; a 12 lb turkey wrapped in 3 layers of clothes in the front, and 6 layers of clothes in the back, the 22 rounds penetrated the whole thing.
    now then, 22 lrs arent very accurate past 50 yards, and the rest of even the most accurate are dying after 100 yds, and wind plays ping pong with them. But if you are good with them, and know your weapons very well,
    as I do, I have 100% confidence in them, for protection, defense, food, and zombie confrontation , if need be.
     
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    ya i did. pretty impressive. hope i can find some here in omaha tomorrow been looking for a reason to go to the rang
     
  12. Big Bill

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    rangerruck - great info and just what I want to know. I bought a Marlin 981T bolt .22 a week ago. I wonder how those .60 gr aguilas would work?

    I just bought some Blazer 525 packs of high velocity .40 gr lead round nose. I intend to try them tomorrow.

    http://www.blazer-ammo.com/rimfire.aspx
     
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    old ranger no his stuff so does rc model.
     
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    Would you guys mind the most basic type of .22 question?
    My old Savage .22 uses regular 22 LRs.

    A friend told me these will not accept any .22 'magnums', or are these still produced? Forgot the correct terminology, and have no idea what is out there, i.e. what Stingers etc really are.

    I haven't used these since the 60's and have only become interested in guns since late '07 after not shooting for 23 years. If the longer rounds are not possible, then is there a type of .22 LR ammo has about 20-30% more power than a typical LR (assuming that such are available for a reasonable cost)? This is just for shooting objects at 80-200 feet.

    Just an old guy here, trying to use only limited amounts of ammo in the Mini 14, 30 and SKS, yet have more fun with the old Savage .22.
     
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    Big Bill-I stand corrected. impressive numbers for a rimfire. But I can do better with my antique Winchester model 43 218 bee for about the cost of a primer and 11 grains of accurate 1680. I still think a 22,as a using gun,is more usefull to a non- reloader.
     
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    Ignition - your friend was right. You can't shoot .22 mag from a rifle designed for .22 long rifle ammo.

    I think CCI stingers or velocitors or the aguilas that were already mentioned by rangerruck would serve you well.
     
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    a mag 22 is longer than a 22 long rifle dont be confused. go by a box of the ammo were talking about in this thred. 22 long rifle is the most common of the 22s. its what your gun eats.
     
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    Sorry Jim - I wasn't trying to dis you or anything, but just show how much the old .22 LR has changed. And, you are so right, .22 is a non-reloader's dream.
     
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    what year was the 22 introduced as we no it? i believe some of the first cartridge ammo ever was rim fire
     
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    a 22 mag is something completely different.. do not shoot them through a LR.. a stinger is a slightly different cartrige.. it case is just slightly longer than a normal LR.. Some guns.. ie....my 10/22 and p-22 shoot them with no problem and a whole lot of fun, while I have heard that others do not like to feed them. NEVER put 22 mags in 22 LR.. you are playing with a lot more power.. BAD IDEA!!!!

    similar to comparing a 30-30 to a 30-06, same caliber, different bullet
     
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    The thing I like about my Ruger 10/22 is that one can put out a lot of lead on target in a hurry and with these new loads it could actually be very effective. I can see how a high capacity mag loaded with Stingers or velociters in a Ruger 10/22 could be deadly and safer than a .44 mag in a HD situation (wall penetration wise).
     
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    Big Bill-no offense taken-I think I still resent I wasn't the one to take this high-performance 22 thing to the market-I blew up my Marlin-Glen Field m60 in the early70s puting a 22 short bullet on a LR case-worked good with just the LR powder,but then I got cute and put the short powder in also.Instant two piece stock.
     
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    You'd be wealthy by now! ZOWIE - something to think about!
     
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    Like I don't? All I have to show for it is a busted K-mart 22. Next time will be diff. Right.
     
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    Amen Bro...
     
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