Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by DMW1116, Jul 30, 2022.
I see they now have "slick coat" not sure if that is the same as Polymer coated.
They are bullets. Midway has sold them for years, Look at the reviews
Pricey little boogers. Don't know much about them tho. Has OP looked at Missouri or T & B bullets?
Did you check out RMR bullets before buying these?
They offer 115 grain FMJ for $0.10/each and free shipping. FAR superior bullet and a LOT less hassle than cast... not to mention, safer to handle. Below are their current 9mm offerings.
I’ll load up a few HS bullets and see how they do. I don’t have enough to do a full load development test so I’ll probably do a few at the minimum and a few at the middle of the range. My pistols shoot cast bullets as well or better than jacketed in most cases and certainly for the price.
There was nothing I recall about them that was remarkable that would justify a higher price now.
Their "Slick Coat" bullets sure are pricey. At $154/1000 + shipping, I rather shoot RMR jacketed bullets.
But OP is shooting regular lubed 115 gr lead bullets on clearance from MidwayUSA at $79.52/1000 if bought in 250 round packs with free shipping - https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2046282252?pid=853354
I think you will be fine testing some at start-to-mid range load data.
I do want to point out that picture that shows on MidwayUSA is below "stepped" RN with more pointed nose that of 125 gr RN which I typically load at 1.125" OAL.
But when you click on the 115 gr RN, it shows a different bullet with shorter, more rounder nose without "step" that you will end up loading to shorter OAL meaning deeper bullet seating depth.
BTW, here's Hodgdon load data showing short 1.100" OAL/COL - https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/reloading-data-center
9mm 115 gr LRN W231/HP-38 COL 1.100" Start 4.3 gr (1,079 fps) - Max 4.8 gr (1,135 fps)
With 9mm 115 gr bullets (.355" sized plated/jacketed and .356" sized plated/lead/coated) and W231/HP-38, 4.5 gr will start to reliably cycle the slides of my Glocks and 4.6-4.8 gr will produce greater accuracy.
But if your working OAL ends up being shorter than 1.100" due to shorter/rounder nose profile of HS bullet, you may want to reduce start charge down to 4.1 gr and test 4.3 and 4.5 gr to see which charge will reliably cycle the slide then test for accuracy trend.
RMR, Missouri, nor anyone else is going to sell you 250 bullets shipped to your door for 2 bucks.
I’ve loaded and shot about 5000 in revolvers and have had no issues with leading. Accuracy, while it wasn’t stellar it was more than acceptable. I used data out of the Lyman’s cast manual for a bullet the same weight and shape. Started low and worked up. Found the best accuracy at 3/4 up the weight range.
This way I have something to show for all my money spent.
I've only given two things away that I bought like this, so I'm way ahead of the game.
If they work and you like the style just remember to not buy them in bulk from Midway unless there is a sale. You will end up paying double what some other bullet makers offer for the same application. But you did good at $2 this order.
The only thing I can think is check your barrel for leading. I got the same result from my 30-30. I couldn’t keep three shots on a 25 yard target 8” across.
I took it home to clean it and all the patches for about 2 hours looked like they were covered in black glitter.
Maybe measure the bullets and see what diameter they are. From what I’ve see cast bullets are 0.001” bigger than jacketed for the same caliber. That’s probably not a hard rule though.
I hope that Jake does not see these prices.
No,none of the three are.Two Sigs and a Springfield.
MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THE WEIGHT OF YOUR BULLETS.
I thought these were 115 grain, but based on the pictures above I found I actually have the 125 grain versions. Minimum loads and all would have been ok but my 4.5 grain planned load for 115 grain bullets would have been 0.1 over max for 125 grain bullets. I caught it after remembering the step down on the 125s in the pictures above. So thanks to Live Life for those.
Now for the shooting. I put up a quarter size silhouette at 25 yards and aimed for the center X. Since this was mostly a function test, why not swing for the fences?
The minimum load per Hodgden is 3.9 for a LCN bullet so that’s where I started even though these are LRN. 9 shots of this load and 10 shots of 4.1 grains W231 later and all fed fine and locked the slide back. I also loaded a 4.3 grain charge before catching my mistake so I fired that one as well. No issues but I couldn’t find the brass to check. 18 of 20 were on the silhouette. This was off hand with one hand, both left and right hands. No idea which load did better but they’re both accurate enough for my intended purpose with this bullet.
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