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Hunting Gray Whales, Tribal Style

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by 30 cal slob, Sep 9, 2007.

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  1. 30 cal slob

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    :scrutiny::uhoh::rolleyes:

     
  2. Crunker1337

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    I think an autocannon would be more effective.
     
  3. Titan6

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    Okay I'll bite. Where did they get a .50 machine gun?
     
  4. alucard0822

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    But I thought all .50s were good for was shooting down airplanes from miles away by terrorists:rolleyes:
     
  5. The Lone Haranguer

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    It could have been shot with the .50 BMG cartridge, I suppose. :rolleyes:
     
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    a .50 cal machine gun not enough to stop a whale? I'd be willing to bet that a few well placed shots would do the trick. Doesn't sound like the report is accurate Something sounds fishy (pun intended)
     
  7. Flak_Jakett

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    It sounds like it may have been enough. The reports say it dissappeared beneath the waves, but did not say that the whale lived. In fact the report said the tribe members believe it did die. It probably just sunk. Maybe the extra .50 lead gave the whale more balast and sent it down to Davy Jones' locker.

    I remember watching a show on "native" whale hunts that are still legal to some historica whaling tribes. I don't remember seeing a .50 cal. MG being used. And in history, I think if they had .50 cal machine guns that the west would still be wild.
     
  8. Apple a Day

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    Joking about killing an endangered species with machine guns isn't exactly taking the High Road. It is, however, the kind of thing which hands the anti's ammunition and reinforces the stereotypes that we're a bunch of rednecks who like slaughtering for sport.
    Let's consider what we say.
     
  9. Novus Collectus

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    Hunting Grey whales with .50 BMG is required believe it or not as part of the permit, but in this illegal permitless hunt the rifle used was a Weatherby.
    The media got this one way wrong!! There was no machine gun and it wasn't even the .50 BMG that is recquired for the permit.
     
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    The anti's don't need our help, if they don't see what they want, they will make it up anyway. We can't live in fear of what people will say or think all the time.
     
  11. Novus Collectus

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    http://ncseonline.org/nae/docs/makahplan.html
     
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    I don't live in fear about what anyone thinks about me, my guns, or the animals I hunt on a regular basis, but this still isn't THR material.
     
  13. Novus Collectus

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    Why isn't this THR material? Hunting whale with a .50 BMG rifle is the proper way to hunt whale.
     
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    Do you have a reference for this?
     
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    Grey whales are not an endangered species anymore.

    I too was initially shocked at the news story, but when I read more it turned out to be nothing but hype (except the part about breaking tribal law and federal law). I now see hunting Grey whale only different from hunting deer with an atlatl being that a mercy shot from a gun is used after being speared.
    Personally, I want to see a whale shot with a .50 BMG to make it's death quicker and with less suffering. I don't like whale hunting in general, but these are aborigional people's and that is a totally different ball game and using the .50 is the more humane way.
     
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    ohh the ironing..

    If they had used the proper round and a machine gun as reported the whale would likely have not survived.
     
  18. Novus Collectus

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    No, just the proper round in a bolt action rifle. A machine gun would be a waste after the first shot because the purpose is to hit the central nervous system for a quick kill and subsequent rounds on full auto would miss.
     
  19. Wes Janson

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    The real problem I'd see with using a Ma Deuce would be keeping the platform steady on full auto.

    What I'm really quite curious about, though, is what loads they use for hunting whale...
     
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    The Navy and Coast Guard both use the M2 (and MK19)to great effect. It only requires training.
     
  21. Novus Collectus

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    Yeah, but can anyone do it effectively from a canoe?
     
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    We still don't know what caliber they used. Does Weatherby chamber any of their rifles in .50 BMG?
     
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    ....but...but whale hunting with a .50 machine gun just isn't politically correct, is it?????:confused::confused:
     
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    These folks have to be skilled hunters indeed, I have enough trouble keeping dry side up in a canoe without firing a 50. I could only hope the boat would spin completely around and not just tip over:D
     
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    Read the story again.

    Speared from a canoe, the rifleman can be in a powerboat.

    The idea is the actual strike must be traditional, they have to paddle up to the whale rather than drive up. After the "traditional" aspect has been fulfilled, it goes into "humane" mode and modern tech is used to ensure the whale is killed (not escaping, wounded by the harpoon) and dies quickly and relatively painlessly.

    Up here the harpoons have explosive heads for the same reason.
     
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