Hypothetical G23 gen 5

[TheProf]

If they make a Gen 5, Glock 23... with the new gen 5 barrel, .... will that make shooting the .40 caliber safer from kabooms?

I am referring to shooting factory ammo only. And I also realize that is statistically a non-issue if you shoot factor ammo. But from a theoretically standpoint, is there an advantage to the new gen 5 barrel if applied to the G23?

 

[Kookla]

I was under the impression that the new barrel was to make the Gen 5's of greater accuracy.

 

[JTQ]

I think Glock fixed the .40S&W kabooms a Gen or two ago.

 

[MTMilitiaman]

And the issue, if there ever was one at all, was primarily with handloads and boutique loads that claimed to be +P, even though no SAAMI designation for .40 S&W +P exists. I can remember arguing about chamber support on these forums and even posting pictures showing that my Glock had at least as much chamber support as my brother's Springfield MilSpec Gov Model 1911 and my dad's Ruger P90. The early Glock chambers were sloppy--as much so as SAAMI specs would allow, but still within spec-- unlike say, the Buffalo Bore ammo or the gunshow reloads these people were blowing their Glocks up with. Always looked like more of an ammo problem to me. If you want 10mm Auto performance, get a 10mm Auto--Glock makes several good ones. Stick within industry standards and I don't think there was ever much of a problem to begin with.

 

[Com 45acp]

Glock has said the gen 5 will only be made in the 19m and 17m. Due to the locking block pin configuration.

 

[Rubber_Duck]

How can anyone possibly know the answers to OPs question except Glock themselves?

They have no plans (right now at least) to make the Gen 5s in .40 S&W. with the current market trend being to move away from .40 and back to 9mm, Glock could be setting precedent for the .40 becoming less mainstream by not producing .40s anymore but time will tell if that's the case.

 

[jjones45]

How hard would it be for glock to add a pin for 40 caliber models? I don't think they would need to change the design much, but I could be wrong. Only glock knows for sure. I guess this also means no gen5 10mm's and 357 sigs also. Time will tell

 

[Zerodefect]

No. Look at the Gen5 barrel more closely. It's still a polygon. Not normal rifling like a 1911.

Us Blazer and Federal jacketed ammo and your G23 will never kaboom. If you want to use lead, or billybobs reloads, it might be cheaper to just put your hand in a blender.

 

[stchman]

How hard would it be for glock to add a pin for 40 caliber models? I don't think they would need to change the design much, but I could be wrong. Only glock knows for sure. I guess this also means no gen5 10mm's and 357 sigs also. Time will tell

Cuz James Yeager said 40 sucks and it will die a miserable death.

 

[jjones45]

Cuz James Yeager said 40 sucks and it will die a miserable death.

Hahahahahahaha! James Yeager sucks

 

[stchman]

I have read that armorers have looked at the internals of the new Gen5 and they don't lend themselves well to higher pressure rounds like .40S&W and .357Sig. Maybe .45ACP.

 

[MTMilitiaman]

I have read that armorers have looked at the internals of the new Gen5 and they don't lend themselves well to higher pressure rounds like .40S&W and .357Sig. Maybe .45ACP.

Really? Standard pressure 9mm is 35000 PSI. +P 9mm is 38500 PSI.

.40 S&W is 35000 PSI. There is no SAAMI spec for +P .40 S&W. I assume .357 SIG is the same.

,45 ACP is 21000 PSI for standard pressure, 23000 PSI for +P.

The 9mm operates at pressures equal to or greater than any other cartridge in Glock's lineup, including the 10mm, which operates at 37500 PSI. It's not a pressure thing.

EDITTED: Looked up the .357 SIG. Apparently it operates at 40000 PSI. Holy wrist snappers Batman! That's my bad. So the 9mm operates at pressures equal to or greater than every other cartridge in Glock's lineup except for the .357 SIG.

 

[NMPOPS]

The Glock was designed around the NATO spec 9mm which is a high pressure round. They made a larger frame for the 21/20 due to the size of the rounds, not the pressure. When Smith & Wesson developed the 40 S&W Glock actually had the 22/23 on the market before S&W. The first 40s were 2 pin frames but due to actual frame cracking they added the third pin. However the 40 & 357 have always been harder on the frame than the 9mm. This is due mostly to slide battering. The recoil spring part number was the same for the 17/22/31 and the 19/23/32.