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I am sick of "Tactical" "Combat" and "Assault"

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Dad-Gummit, Jan 9, 2003.

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  1. Dad-Gummit

    Dad-Gummit Member

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    Time to vent. It seems that I can't read a gun mag without these words used to decribe a product. What the heck is the difference between a "tactical" pocket knife and a regular pocket knife. How about the difference between a regular pistol and a "combat" pistol. I guess if you paint something black, then you're tactical,and can charge more. The only difference between "combat" boots, and "tactical" boots is that one is black. I still havn't figured out an "assault" pocket knife yet.
     
  2. Tamara

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    I just bought a tactical combat assault Martini-Henry.

    It must be so, as (unlike the devices currently advertised as such) it was used to tactically assault half the known world in combat... ;)
     
  3. Dean Speir

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    This should afford most critical thinkers some small insight into just who publishers and editors consider their target readership!

    "Tactical" became a gunzine (and law enforcement periodical) buzzword about a dozen or so years back. (The other hot chat back then was about "subsonic" handgun ammo.) "Assault" and "Combat" enjoyed a certain cachet in the early-to-mid '80s, but then because too dangerous to continue bandying about even in the pages of gunzines… hell, even the reasonably good gear manufacturer, "," decided it was in their best interest to change their name to something more "PC" by the time the '90s arrived.

    It is the tenor of the times that "Assault" and "Combat" are once again used freely and without fear, wouldn't you say? ;)
     
  4. BigG

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    Tackycal = 20% cheaper to produce due to rough finish and 20% higher price because traffic will bear it. :D
     
  5. Tamara

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    Dean,

    Did that bug you as much as it did me? The last straw for me was "Subsonic 10mm Auto" which, when you think about it, makes only slightly more sense than "Subsonic .357 Magnum"... ;)
     
  6. Plan-B

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    Yeah, it's like almost every piece of computer software is now a "Pro" version. Everything is "Something Something 9.0 Pro" and I'm even seeing this on games now. :rolleyes:

    Marketing people, go figure...
     
  7. Joe Demko

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    I'm sick nigh unto death of the phrase "high-speed/low drag" and calling various gun-toters "operators."
     
  8. Dean Speir

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    Tam…

    Made me freakin' nuts, because with the virtual endorsement of the FBI, and the way that "subsonic" was bandied about the gunzines for several years, it was clear that a whole slew of people actually thought that the "subsonic" attribute suddenly turned pistol rounds into hand-held particle-ionazation beams.

    :cuss:

    Fackler, at the 1987 Wound Ballistics Seminar in Quantico, is probably responsible for the bulk of that, but then as influential as he is, he can't be blamed for the lack of critical-thinking skills of the rank 'n' file firearms community.
     
  9. HS/LD

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    Hey I resemble that remark!:mad:

    Actually I am sick of people being so annoyed by words, and the obviously emotional reactions to them.

    Isn’t that what the ANTIS do? React emotionally to something.

    “Oh no! “Its an ASSUALT rifle, it must be BAD. Lets ban it!â€

    What do you want to do ban the words tactical, assault, and combat.

    I thought whining was better left to the ANTIS!


    HS/LD
     
  10. Tamara

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    HS/LD,

    Words don't bother me, but as an avid fan of the Mother Tongue, the misuse of them really gets up my nose.

    Certain colloquialisms, however, are (when used in their proper context) rather humorous.

    I have a tactical sheet of construction paper at home: It's black, and I paid three times the going rate for brown construction paper to get it. ;)
     
  11. madkiwi

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    Sometimes those words can help. In the PRK for example, "sniper rifles" are politically incorrect.

    So my .308 Savage 10FP, with Tasco 10x42SS mil-dot and Harris bipod that can put 5 holes in less than 3/4" at 100 yards is a "tactical" rifle (or to really muddy the waters it's a "sport utility rifle":D )

    Of course anyone who actually sees it thinks "sniper rifle" but it's just a label, right?;)

    madkiwi
     
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    My GF asked me what the difference was between the tactial model she saw in a gun rag and one that I had. I told her that it was painted black and had tactial painted on it and cost 50 dollars more. She just laughed. So now its an ongoing joke "Its not tactial enough for my." when she asks if I like it. A buddy of mine picked up a folding skinning knife and ask me what I though and I said it was not tactial enough and my GF whopped me on the arm and laughed.

    I have tried to make my 1911 less tactial by coloring the letters in with a crayon, white in color, so I look less cool on the range. I told the owner of the range about and she just laughed in disbelief and then I showed her and she rolled her eyes.
     
  13. Viking6

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    Please, anyone, correct me if I'm wrong. It's called MARKETING. They know their target audience.
     
  14. El Tejon

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    Feh, just another word for fighting and fighting is what guns are all about. I have a lot of other things to get worked up about, like SIG v. Glock.

    Personally I've never been "tactical" and the only "high speed/low drag" thing I do is throw a Starbucks cup in the trash from across the room. At most, I was operational (on a good day--a while ago), but talking on the phone and typing is the epitome of strategic.:D
     
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    I wonder when other companies will start doing this. Imagine the money to be made by painting something flat black, calling it "Tactical", and jacking the price up by a third... then imagine the ensuing hysteria.

    "New for '03: It's the Ford Festiva Tactical-- the 'Speciial Ops' subcompact!"

    "It's the Oster XL17-- the Tactical Blender!"

    "Wanda Higgins was arrested today for possession of a Tactical high-capacity rapid-fire sniper streetsweeper 'Assault' cheese grater."
     
  17. Triad

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    You know, in my limited experience all combat boots are black, unless they're meant to be used in the desert or arctic.
     
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    I am really surprised...

    That Marlin or Winchester haven't marketed a "tactical" lever action. I mean think about it. Black polymer stocks, a nice red dot, maybe a shell carrier on the buttstock...flashlight on the forend.

    Actually it might be kinda cool. I have seen one done by an aftermarket company that looked pretty cool.

    Truely I bet they would make some money by doing this.
     
  19. telewinz

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    "Tactical" costs 300-500% more. Thats about all.
     
  20. Archie

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    I think I'm "Low Drag".

    At least in shape. I'm sort of round, with no sharp corners. Yup, dropped out of an airplane, I'd have about as much wind resistance as a soft ball.
     
  21. DeltaElite

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    Agreed, I too am sick of this craze.
    Just today, I bought a Tactical Combat Pen to prepare reports with. :neener:

    It's just a name to jack the price up with.
     
  22. Bainx

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    While we're at it...I'm sick of "Politically Correct" and "Don't Go There"
     
  23. HS/LD

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    1911 sometimes upsets me too.

    Lets ban it.

    HS/LD
     
  24. Shooter 2.5

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    "Endorsed by the Navy Seals" or if it isn't, just a stock picture of what appears to be Navy Seals.

    "X-treme" Come on, it's an object and just lays there. It's the user that makes it happen.

    "A "No Compromise" gun group" Yeah, sure, whatever.
     
  25. Tamara

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    Yessiree, especially those Tactical Perazzis. When you fight with those, your clay enemies don't stand a chance! :eek: ;)
     
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