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I bought a stolen handgun off of the internet

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I recently bought a gun from a pawnshop. When I went to pick it up after our states mandatory waiting period, I was told it had been reported as stolen! Seems strange as didn't the pawnshop have to check out it wasn't stolen before accepting it in pawn or buying it?

Store refunded my money but said it was not going to refund the fees for my background check. I told them it was no fault of mine the gun ended up being a stolen one and I expected every cent back. They relented after they saw I wasn't going to back down about that.
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You were lucky, here In MI pawn shops are protected, i.e. they sell you something stolen, you find out the police take it, they keep the money you lose. Basically giving them card blanche to deal in stolen stuff. :what:
 
I had an SKS stolen from my vehicle not too long ago (they broke the window and that cost more to replace than the rifle) - back in the days before I kept a record of just about everything I owned (or at least all the weapons) - when I called the FFL I bought it from he said that serial or no serial reporting, I was never going to see that rifle again. Is this thread indicating that there might be some hope (not that it matters that much to me, the rifle has been replaced, but I do know a few people who wouldn't mind getting into shooting, but a firearm isn't exactly first on their priority list....)?

It was a nice rifle too, oh well....
 
Red Dragon - another member mentioned it but it could have been recovered by the police and sold by them. Hence the '92 registered owner had a "lawful" but tainted title and may be innocent of any wrongdoing. .41 Mag should be refunded his $$$ from the dealer who sold it to him.
 
I totally agree about the refund. Its like buying a package of twinkies only to have a Hostess rep come and take em away because the distributor delivered em to the wrong grocery store.... :D

or not :)
 
There is always the possibility the item may prove to be stolen. Doesn't happen often, but it does. About 25 years ago I bought a rifle and after a bit I sold it on consignment in a shop and it turned out to be stolen so I was out the money I had paid a private seller for it (I know he wasn't the thief).

On the other hand, you'd want your stolen gun back, right? I had one returned after 17 years and I'm still hoping the others may turn up, as well.
 
Well it's finally over.

The local GRPD detective finally finished his report.He told me that it was the ATFE agent that was dragging his feet.The outcome?The 1905 production .32-20 S&W hand ejector is to be shipped back to Jacksonville Florida.Assuming that the woman who it was stolen from back in '73 is still around she'll shortly be getting a suprise.:)If she's un-availabe(no new address/dead/or abducted by aliens) it'll likely sit in a locker until it gets recycled into a toaster oven. :(

I just returned from the gun shop that sold me the gun via GunBroker auction,On Target in Kalamazoo Mi.The counter guy there took all my info,made copies,told me that it was the second time this year that that had happened( :confused: :eek: ),& made me an offer.The same $$ amount as a cash refund or about 20% more as store credit.Hmmm. ;) I bought a new six inch blued GP100.Wanted one since middle school & after I get my permit :rolleyes: ,I'll have it.

There's a few old Smiths on Gun Broker right now.I'll get one sooner or later.

A learning expierience to be sure. :)
 
Sounds like it worked out best all around.

The GP100 is a great gun, you will be very happy with it.
The posts show you kept a good frame of mind about the whole thing. Maybe
some more good will come out of this... like the dealer doing some deeper
checking with the future buys that are made. Or go to jail if he's
crooked. :evil:
 
Thanks for finishing the story. Good for you, and good for the dealer. I hope they do find the original owner down in FL ... "and they all lived happily ever after!" :)
 
Is there a national database online? Sounds like a great way to protect your investment before you buy.
 
Hi, Mete and guys,

Serial numbers on Lugers and P.38's can be a real problem, as there are plenty of duplicates. Each maker started fresh each year, and went 1-9999, 1a-9999a, 1b-9999b, and so on.

Anytime you have to register a Luger or P.38 or have a problem from having one the same number as a crime or stolen gun, remember that to uniquely identify one of those guns you need the serial number, the suffix letter, the year of manufacture and the manufacturer. So a full description of a Luger would be something like "Luger, DWM, 1918, 1234a" or "Luger, S/42, 1938, 1235b". A P.38 would be fully described as "German P.38, ac, 1943, 6789d." The date on a Luger may be the full year (1916) or the last two digits (42); P.38 dates are two digit and may not even be present on some manufacturer's guns. If there is no date, the gun should be described as "no date".

Most police and gun owners are not aware of this, and will report only the serial number of a stolen gun. If someone tells you that your Luger, DWM, 1918, 1234a was stolen because a Luger #1234 was reported stolen, insist on knowing the other information about the stolen gun. If they cannot provide it, but insist that your gun is the stolen gun, call a lawyer and give him the gist of the information above.

Jim
 
If I buy a gun in a gun store or gun show, the owner should check this
gun's background before he sells to me, is it correct? If yes, I don't need to worry about, if finally the gun is a stolen gun , I can get full amount money back.
But if I buy a gun from the internet, I don't know if this gun’sdealer checked the gun’s background or not. When the gun ship to my FLL dealer, what kind of background does my FLL dealer check it ? I think they just check my background and didn’t check the gun’s. If I have no crime record , I can pick up the gun.
I am living in Virginia, I don’t need to register when I bought a gun, so I have
no way to know it is a stolen gun or not unless I check it by myself.
I have some questions here,
1) Should we need to check it by myself every time when we find a gun and going
To but it?
2) where or which number should I call to check the guns I already have?
 
There is a National Database for stolen firearms. Dealers and Individuals do not have access to it. We are SOL. Perhaps if everyone wrote their Senators and Congressmen maybe at a minimum Dealers could access it. I for one would run all serial numbers for used firearms.
 
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