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I can't be the only one W/ this problem

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Treo, Jan 19, 2008.

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  1. Treo

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    My carry weapon is a CZ75B' weighs about 2 pounds & I generally wear jeans when I'm not at work ( there is no way to hide a CZ in scrubs so I don't even try) I seem to have a problem W/ the gun dragging my pants down. I use a 1 inch wide leather belt and an IWB holster. my concern is that the constant pulling up my pants is a dead giveaway any sugestions?
     
  2. Kind of Blued

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    A lighter gun would pull them down less. Are you like me where your butt doesn't necessarilly protrude from your body? It doesn't give a belt much to remain atop.
     
  3. Ragnar Danneskjold

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    Sounds like y'all suffer from 'Noassatall' ... might want to get a lighter gun ...
     
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  5. tnieto2004

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    Same thing with me .. I started carrying a KelTec P11 and It is much more comfortable
     
  6. Winchester 73

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    A wider belt ( 1 1/4 or 1 1/2")and a better holster like the Sparks Versa Max II or Kramer IWB would definitely help your haberdashery problem.
     
  7. ClickClickD'oh

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    My -75B lives in a Galco shoulder rig under a flannel shirt.

    My wife says I look like I'm stuck in the '90s. Could be worse.. I could be stuck in the '70s.
     
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  9. Treo

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    Yes I definetely have a Gluteus Minimus. I also just lost 20 pounds. and I'm wondering if my pants aren't just flat too big. as for a smaller gun I can't afford a new gun right now any one else out there carrying a full size? How do you do it? suspenders?
     
  10. preWWWIIbuff

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    suspenders!!!! braces in UK

    Holdup Suspender Company manufacturers the patented " No Slip Clip" line of suspenders.

    Try the clown color ones first as in a joke

    Then get the colors tan for me that work.

    works like a charm for me SIG P229 :D

    orrrrrrrr how bought one them thar Weight lifften belts.

    no look at what most POs ware.
     
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  11. 2TransAms

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    I'm a skinny guy,and I can tell you that I need a good belt and holster to keep my pants from sagging down where the gun is. OTOH,pull down the other side too and you'll be in style.

    Make sure your pants aren't too loose in the waist either. If they're too big in the waist,no amount of belt will keep them up,so you may have to go down a size. I usually wear a 32" waist on my pants,which holds a 5" 1911 IWB just perfect for me. Remember,when you carry you have to dress around your weapon.
     
  12. Autolycus

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    I dont know of any good gunleather maker who makes a 1 inch wide leather belt. It sounds like that is a big part of the problem.

    I would suggest getting a good belt, perhaps from someone like the Beltman. That is key to being able to carry well.
     
  13. gunmn74

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    I would go with what some of the others have said and say too get a good
    gun belt. A good belt will make a world of differece.
    As an experimant lay your old belt out flat and there is probably a big curve
    too it. A good gun belt will stay straight and stiff with no sag to it after
    years of wear. Most gun belts a twice as thick as the standard belt.
     
  14. chris in va

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    Same problem here. That CZ is HEAVY considering the caliber.

    I've toyed with the idea of suspenders myself. They'd have to be under my shirt though, not sure how comfortable that would be.

    Honestly there needs to be a revolutionary idea in carrying a sidearm. I mean really, the same basic premise has been around for over a century.

    Can't remember the name right off hand, but someone posted about a new kydex/leather IWB that really spreads out the weight over your entire hip and attaches with thin belt clips.

    Now do you *need* IWB? I've switched over to OWB almost exclusively for comfort reasons. When I need more concealment, I use my P11 with belt clip.
     
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    A good belt can be a life altering experience...
     
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    Have you considered "Belly Band" type holsters???

    Scott
     
  17. thegriz

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    belly band or smart carry

    I don't really like the belly band but it works well for slimmer guys. I use the smartcarry holster. No belt is required. It doesn't pull down on your pants. Your hips bear the weight. It will easily conceal your pistol in scrubs (and comfortably too once you get it positioned correctly) along with a spare mag. It will easily conceal it with shorts, a robe, just about anything.

    It doesn't work that great if your pants are too tight. I don't see how scrubs would be a problem.

    Smartcarry Website

    If you get one, try to offset the holster to the right or left and it's very comfortable. You don't want this thing laying on your jewels when you sit down. Mine is offset to the left so the barrel is sort of pointing down my pant leg.

    With practice you can get a pretty fast draw, even with one hand. It won't be as fast as a conventional draw. I usually carry a Kel-Tec P3AT in my rear right pocket in a pocket holster for faster draw if necessary and a Taurus PT 24/7 in my smartcarry.

    Make sure you have a gun you trust because you sure as hell don't want to get shot in the thigh or in the jewels:what:. You could say that I'm always very aware of the trigger when I holster and unholster. If you are absent minded you might want to pass on this holster.:)
     
  18. armoredman

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    Good belt indeed. In scrubs, hmmm, good luck, maybe Thunderwear? Or go get thee a good CZ PCR or PO1, stay with what you like, but in a lighter alloy frame. When I switched from a full size all steel Witness pistol to my CZ PO1, it was night and day - felt like I wasn't carrying a gun at all.
     
  19. Calhoun

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    I think he is refering to crossbreed holsters. www.crossbreedholsters.com


    As everyone else has said, you need a better belt. Before you spend big $$ on a new pistol (I also recomend the CZ P-01 or PCR), spend a little $$ on a good belt that is ment to hold up not only your pants but a gun as well.
     
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    All I can say is I just WISH I had your problem.

    Is your belt really a gun belt, or just a dress belt? A good gun belt that fits you will help a lot. I would think that suspenders will not keep the gun secure on your waistband if the pants are too big...try a size smaller pants if you're also going the suspenders route.

    Springmom
     
  21. simmonsguns

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    guns and belts

    I had to go to the suspender and belt thing, i have a good gunbelt and a good holster but i to suffer from lack of arse.
    I carry iwb and a full size 1911, there's enough weight there that i found the only way to keep the whole mess from falling down was to use the suspenders.
    IWB and a too tight belt meens a one handed draw are tough to do, with the suspenders i can loosen the belt to where it fits good and i don't have to worry about pants around the shoes stuff.
    If you use suspenders, get the ones that attach to your pants with buttons or slip over your belt, not the ones that clip to belt, these will pop off when you least expect it.
     
  22. Chindo18Z

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    treo: If you're mostly wearing jeans...just get a nylon rigger belt (also called a "BDU belt").

    They are light, soft, can be cinched down to any desired waist measurement or holster snugness. Normal width is 1.75" , but they can be found in 1.25". A multitude of colors are available (black, navy blue, tan , grey, OD, sand, brown, sage, etc.) and they only cost a few dollars.

    The ones worn by everyone in the Army (with BDUs or ACUs) cost about $3.75. Commercial versions range from $4-$8. I've routinely used one to carry OWB 1911s, Browning Hi-Powers, CZ75s, and Beretta 92s.

    If you want to go with stiffer and heavier, you can sink money into beefed up versions (so-called "Instructor" or "Wilderness Survival" belts). These have additional features (internal stiffeners, doubled & sewn nylon layers, Velcro, metal V/D-ring connectors for use while rappeling or with safety lanyards).

    The basic belt works fine and is both light and comfortable.

    Here are several vendors /variations (you can also search for "BDU Belt"). There are hundreds. You should also be able to find these belts in any Army-Navy Surplus Store and some gunshops or sports stores.

    http://www.lapolicegear.com/lapogebdube.html

    http://www.vtarmynavy.com/bdu-belts.htm

    http://www.georgia-outfitters.com/page49.shtml

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    Hope this helps...
     
  23. Treo

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    I double checked my belt is 1&3/8 wide & made by Tony Lama. I prefer the IWB because I like to wear polo shirts W/ the odd Hawiian thrown in. My main problem seems to be a case of the "bootydo" ( that's where your belly sticks out more than your booty do) I think suspenders might be my option. I usually wear an under shirt so if the suspenders were over that comfort shouldn't be an issue
     
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    You need a better belt. If you don't want to sink money into a good leather gunbelt then try this one.

    Better BDU Belt
     
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    I have to recommend a good heavy 1.25-1.5" belt. Start with that. Next get a good quality holster, one that keeps the weapon close to your body and the belt slot is not large compared to the belt. This will keep the weapon from moving much, motion will impart energy that will tend to move things, including your pants, around. A paddle style holster may help. Friction from the paddle may help keep things from traveling south.

    When all else fails try some suspenders. Dickies brand makes some good reasonably priced ones in various colors. Some days I carry a full size .45, at least 2 extra mags, a cell phone, a knife in my pocket and frequently a flashlight, all in addition to wallet, keys etc. When carrying this much weight around suspenders make it much easier to keep things from sliding downhill.


    As for carrying while wearing scrubs....the two best alternatives would likely be a 5.11 t shirt with built in shoulder holster or smartcarry holster.
     
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