scrat
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im going to go with.
THIS IS A BAD IDEA.
THIS IS A BAD IDEA.
"I Designed A Pillow That Safely & Comfortably Stores a Handgun. What do you think?"
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so why do you keep your passport in your pillow?
is that because you take this pillow on the airplane, and the gun won't get spotted by the metal detector because the pillow is lined, so hey, put in a handy passport holder spot?
Or maybe those nighttime invaders will want to know for sure who you are, so while they are examining your passport, you can get the drop on them.
is that because you take this pillow on the airplane, and the gun won't get spotted by the metal detector because the pillow is lined, so hey, put in a handy passport holder spot?
Or maybe those nighttime invaders will want to know for sure who you are, so while they are examining your passport, you can get the drop on them.
give
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i am torn,i mean i guess its a better way then to have it just under your pillow,like i am sure some bone has done before,i am a big fan of having your handgun between the matterss and box spring,that works better for me,i have little ones and sometimes i wake up with them right next to me so i dont think it would work for me,but i am sure others would like the idea
bnkrazy
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I think the product will be of interest for those that sleep with a pistol under the pillow and want a bit more security or those who want easy access to a firearm and don't have a nightstand, etc.
I too have a little constructive criticism regarding the site. I realize the product isn't available yet, but just a few tidbits for the future.
Flash is not generally used on commercial sites except as a method of highlighting a specific section or area. As is, it will be hard to get search engines to index your site as they cannot "read" the flash content. If I were you, I'd redo the site in (X)HTML and use Flash objects only to add an extra bit of animation, etc. if that's what you're after.
The presentation looks great, I'd just pull that section out and have it embedded in a normal (X)HTML site.
In any case, I hope the product does well!
I too have a little constructive criticism regarding the site. I realize the product isn't available yet, but just a few tidbits for the future.
Flash is not generally used on commercial sites except as a method of highlighting a specific section or area. As is, it will be hard to get search engines to index your site as they cannot "read" the flash content. If I were you, I'd redo the site in (X)HTML and use Flash objects only to add an extra bit of animation, etc. if that's what you're after.
The presentation looks great, I'd just pull that section out and have it embedded in a normal (X)HTML site.
In any case, I hope the product does well!
JackBurtonJr
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This is obviously a rule about handling a gun -- not a general rule for 100% of a guns existance.
When I sit down with my gun in my front pocket the muzzle is covering everyone in front of me. Am I breaking the rule? No.
If you carry on the side with a cant of any kind it's impossible to walk up stairs without the muzzle covering anyone behind you. Is the rule being broken? No.
I don't want to "destroy" anything in my car but when I transfer the gun from my pocket to the console the muzzle has to point somewhere. Am I breaking the rule? No.
The pillow may or may not be silly... but it's not a rule breaker any more than any other "holster" is.
scrat
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that and i just cant seem to figure out how you can have a gun under your pillow pointing towards your spouse or through your color telivison. frankly i would not trust my self. i would be moving around grabbing the pillow when im half asleep. No its ok i will pass. Sell these to the russian military in Georgia lets see how they do
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I kinda dig it actually - mainly because of the portability of it. When you go on vacation or camping, just grab your little pillow and gun and ammo automatically follow.
GearHead_1
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Besides the fact that I think this is a terrible idea, I always feel funny about someone who makes their first post and tries to sell something. Come say hi, introduce yourself, get to know us, then try to sell us something. 
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RonE
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I guess it will make you pay close attention which end of the pillow that you put in the pillow case first.
Now if you pay for enough advertising in two or three gun rags and pay some hack to "review" the product, you will probably sell one to half the trailer houses in America and a few more too.
Will they come in camo and tactical black?
Now if you pay for enough advertising in two or three gun rags and pay some hack to "review" the product, you will probably sell one to half the trailer houses in America and a few more too.
Will they come in camo and tactical black?
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After some staff discussion, it was decided to re-open this thread.
Whether for or against the product, please keep your responses on The High Road.
Whether for or against the product, please keep your responses on The High Road.
spwenger
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Long Story Short...
...(I believe that I've told the long story in another thread here) I have a friend who once reached under his pillow, while asleep, and unwittingly fired his 1911 pistol, hidden there. I had to point out to him that the 1911 includes a grip safety, so that he would have had to have grasped the gun in his hand in order for it to have fired, in order to convince him that the gun did not "go off by itself because the thumb safety worked off."
I know of a few cases where people successfully defended themselves because they were able to reach under the pillow for a handgun but I don't know of a good way to screen for the difference between those among us who will leave the gun alone until we are awake and those who may reach for it while asleep.
...(I believe that I've told the long story in another thread here) I have a friend who once reached under his pillow, while asleep, and unwittingly fired his 1911 pistol, hidden there. I had to point out to him that the 1911 includes a grip safety, so that he would have had to have grasped the gun in his hand in order for it to have fired, in order to convince him that the gun did not "go off by itself because the thumb safety worked off."
I know of a few cases where people successfully defended themselves because they were able to reach under the pillow for a handgun but I don't know of a good way to screen for the difference between those among us who will leave the gun alone until we are awake and those who may reach for it while asleep.
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Wow, that allot of webpage just for a pillow.
Bubbles
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I haven't looked at the web site. From a purchasing standpoint, I'd be more likely to get one to use as a decorative couch/throw pillow than for the pillow that I use for sleeping.
TT
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Before I started keeping a Browning Hi-Power under my pillow C&L, I did a 6 month trial where I kept it C&L but with an empty chamber. In the 6 months the safety never got knocked off, nor the trigger pulled, nor anything else untoward. Easy test to run and it will give you a good idea of whether you’re safe with your gun under the pillow or not.
The intro is annoying, why waste our time with crosshairs? What does it have to do with your product? FLASH intros are not new or exciting.
The way the pistol fits in the center doesn't look like it will come out very easily, especially during emergencies where the person may be scared but still sleepy. ND waiting to happen.
Why would I need to store my passport in a pillow?
I think that there is no market for this product unless you are planning on shooting the person in bed next to you.
I probably wouldn't buy it even if I liked it because it was SPAMMED
The way the pistol fits in the center doesn't look like it will come out very easily, especially during emergencies where the person may be scared but still sleepy. ND waiting to happen.
Why would I need to store my passport in a pillow?
I think that there is no market for this product unless you are planning on shooting the person in bed next to you.
I probably wouldn't buy it even if I liked it because it was SPAMMED
leadcounsel
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From a security standpoint I like the product. Hiding a weapon in easy reach and plain site is a great idea and the pillow does both of these very well. I give it a "B" in security. The only knock is that if discovered it would easily be stolen. A thief raiding your home may pick up under the pillows for a gun because people frequently hide them there; and the weight of the pillow would be a dead give away.
From a safety standpoint I give it an "F." Having a gun next to your head, pointed at either your body or your spouse/significant other is an unbelievably dumb idea. Many people toss and turn and fidget with their pillows at night and these movements have a very real risk of discharging a handgun and possibly injuring or killing someone. Even the drawing motion seems dangerous. It could theoretically be pointed at your spouse when you draw the weapon - and the drawing motion could touch the kill switch. How is this any more risky than the nightstand? Well in the nightstand the gun sits undisturbed until you need it - at which point you open the drawer and pull the gun out and there are presumably no obstructions. And the drawing motion is a lot different than concealed carry, where you generally draw with your muzzle pointed down in an upward motion with no obstruction. With the pillow you are drawing out of a horizonatal foam and fabric filled object. Just too dangerous.
From a lawsuit standpoint I also give it an "F." The first person that is shot drawing from or sleeping on the pillow will sue you into bankruptcy or even worse... an egregious enough case could have you answering to criminal complaints and eroding gun rights.
I think you really need to rethink this product.
From a safety standpoint I give it an "F." Having a gun next to your head, pointed at either your body or your spouse/significant other is an unbelievably dumb idea. Many people toss and turn and fidget with their pillows at night and these movements have a very real risk of discharging a handgun and possibly injuring or killing someone. Even the drawing motion seems dangerous. It could theoretically be pointed at your spouse when you draw the weapon - and the drawing motion could touch the kill switch. How is this any more risky than the nightstand? Well in the nightstand the gun sits undisturbed until you need it - at which point you open the drawer and pull the gun out and there are presumably no obstructions. And the drawing motion is a lot different than concealed carry, where you generally draw with your muzzle pointed down in an upward motion with no obstruction. With the pillow you are drawing out of a horizonatal foam and fabric filled object. Just too dangerous.
From a lawsuit standpoint I also give it an "F." The first person that is shot drawing from or sleeping on the pillow will sue you into bankruptcy or even worse... an egregious enough case could have you answering to criminal complaints and eroding gun rights.
I think you really need to rethink this product.
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rc109a
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I think it is a creative concept. I am not sure if I too would be comfortable with the gun under my head (not because it is a gun, but for the fact that it is a large piece of metal). This concept can be manipulated into other things to hide a gun in. Some items that can be modified are throw pillows, mattresses, sofas, chairs, stuffed animals for the kids (only kidding don't beat me!!!) and other situations. Keep pushing the ideas and don't let people stop you from the creative processes.
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