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I Did It Again

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Driftwood Johnson, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:13 PM.

  1. Driftwood Johnson

    Driftwood Johnson Member

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    Howdy

    I thought about adding this to the thread about S&W 22 revolvers, but decided to start a new thread instead.

    A few weeks ago somebody posted a thread about what was the next revolver we were going to buy. I replied ask me next week, because I didn't want to tip my hand yet. I had something in my sights, but it wasn't in my hands yet.

    I came across this Model 17 at auction a few weeks ago. Never really had much desire for the 8 3/8" barreled one, but I took a shine to it just because it is different. This is a Model 17, no dash. 22 Long Rifle of course. Roy Jinks says it shipped in December of 1963. Condition is pretty close to as new in the box. Teeny bit of wear to the blue at the muzzle, a few tiny scratches, and a pretty visible turn ring. The chambers and bore look like they just left the factory yesterday and the grips are numbered to the gun. No box, just the gun.

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    Not exactly the most practical of guns with that 8 3/8" non-tapered barrel, it weighs a few ounces more than my 17-3, and of course it is barrel heavy. But the big oversized target stocks help make up for the weight. I don't have a catalog from 1963, but I do have one from 1961 and 1964. The list price for a Model 17 then was $81 for the 6" or 8 3/8" barrel.

    I took it to the range along with my Model 17-3 from 1975, which I remember paying $125 for brand-spanky new. The 8 3/8" barrel really shines plinking at soup cans at the 25 yard berm from a rest. Too heavy for me to hit a soup can reliably off hand. In truth, I just ain't that good a shot, can't do it reliably with the 6" barrel off hand either. But it sure is fun to lay that front sight on a soup can from a rest at 75 feet. Fun to watch them jump.

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  2. The Evangelist Cowboy

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    Sweet looking guns Driftwood!
     
  3. Riomouse911

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    Beautiful find! Congrats on a great .22 silhouette/target/squirrel revolver. :thumbup:
     
  4. Milt1

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    Driftwood, I also have a 17-3 from the '70's and as I recall $125 was what I paid for mine.
     
  5. fallout mike

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    A pair of great guns and great pictures - thanks for sharing.

    I have always been able to resist giving in to buying a S&W double action .22 revolver, but one of theses days ...
     
  7. 460Shooter

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    Nice Driftwood. She's a real beauty.
     
  8. Speedo66

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    Nice!

    With that barrel you don't have to be a great shot, you're halfway there already.
     
  9. Charliefrank

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    Great score! Probably being too nosy, but I'd love to know what you got it for
     
  10. Walkalong

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    Very nice. I still don't own a S&W .22 revolver.
     
  11. Driftwood Johnson

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    I paid a pretty penny for it. About 10X what it sold for new in 1963.

    Worth every penny.
     
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    Sign me up for a 8 3/8"
     
  13. cfullgraf

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    Nice revolver and nice find.

    My purchase experience with my 8-3/8" Model 17-3 is very similar. (see the 22 Revolver thread post 35. https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/s-w-22-revolver.829499/page-2 )I just could not pass it up in part because it was unusual and in part for fear of not seeing another in a reasonable amount of time.

    I really like blued S&W K frames with adjustable sights.
     
  14. ms6852

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    Almost shorted my keypad drooling over those guns. Great find!
     
  15. bannockburn

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    Driftwood

    Nice Model 17! With that long barrel I'm tempted to call it "light artillery"! Thanks for sharing along with the great photos.
     
  16. fallout mike

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    I wasn't aware of the big size difference between the 22 and 17. The 17 may be the one i want, for now. I'll get both eventually. Looks like the 17 will fit the kids hands a little better.
     
  17. Iggy

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    Them one handed carbines is cheatin'. The bullet is half way there before it leaves the barrel.. Plumb nasty on pasture poodles.. Enjoy it.
     
  18. Driftwood Johnson

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    Not quite sure what you mean by that. The S&W Model 22 is a large frame 44 or 45 caliber revolver. The K-22 and the Model 17 and the Model 617 are all the same size. They are all K frame 22 rimfire revolvers built on the medium sized frame. A frame originally developed for 38 Special revolvers. The K-22 was developed for target shooting with 22 rimfire revolvers in the 1930s. K for the frame size, 22 for the caliber. It was part of a family of three target revolvers, the K-22, the K-32, and the K-38. All the same size and approximately the same weight, differing only in caliber. The K-22 went through a couple of slightly different versions until 1957 when S&W went to a model number naming scheme. At that time the K-22 became the Model 17. The Stainless Steel version is called the Model 617 because S&W uses a 6 as the first digit in the model number to denote a stainless gun.

    Top to bottom in this photo are a K-22 from the 1930s, a Model 17-3 from 1975, and Model 617 from 2003. All basically the same size, all 22 rimfires.

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    I was referring to the grip size. In your earlier pic the 17 grips looks noticeably smaller than the 22?
     
  20. Driftwood Johnson

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    Still not sure exactly what you mean.

    In the photos that I started this thread with, in the photo with two revolvers in it, the long barreled (8 3/8") Model 17 has larger grips than the regular 6" barreled Model 17. Both are Model 17s.

    Both are built on the same size frame, the K frame.

    The long barreled one came with what used to be called Oversized Target grips. Underneath the grips, the metal grip frames are the same size. That large grip is unusual for a K frame 22 rimfire revolver. It was common on some of the K frame 357 Magnum revolvers but not on the K frame 22s, 32s, or 38s. The grips on the 6" barreled gun are called Magna grips. A very common grip style with S&W revolvers.

    This K frame Model 19-3, is a 357 Magnum. It came with the same large Oversized Target Grips in 1975, except they are made of Goncalo Alves, not walnut like the grips on the long barrelled Model 17.

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    This K frame K-38 (38 Special) is wearing Magna grips.

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    This K frame Model 14-3 is the successor to the K-38. It is chambered for 38 Special. It is wearing Magna grips. This gun is the same size as the Model 17-3 (22 rimfire)

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    Confusing, huh?
     
  21. fallout mike

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    Ahh, gotcha now. I've been slowly buying them but don't know all the ins and outs of them.
     
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    Now there's a pair to draw to! Beautiful Guns!

    Don't have a model 17, but I love my model 18's. I just don't get to shoot them enough. I may have a ".22 Only" range trip coming soon to solve that problem.

    K frames are my favorites.
     
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    Thats a Gem! I'm glad those catalogs are getting put to good use!
     
  24. Iggy

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    And to confuse the issue a bit more, here are a K-22 (K frame) from the 30s with service grips, and a 38/44 Outdoorsman (N frame) again with service grips. The Outdoorsman would one day become the "Registered Magnum", later the "357 Magnum,"
    and still later the "Model 27."

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  25. Driftwood Johnson

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    I don't know all the ins and outs yet either, and I have been buying S&W revolvers since 1975.
     
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