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I don't BELIEVE this @#$% judge!!!

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Preacherman, Jan 5, 2006.

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  1. Preacherman

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    Can you believe this stuff??? I'm left almost speechless... except for profanities that would violate the High Road standard. I'm so angry I could spit!!!

    From Channel 3 News, Burlington, VT (http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=4319605):

    Rapist's Prison Sentence Triggers Outrage

    Burlington, Vermont -- January 4, 2005

    There was outrage Wednesday when a Vermont judge handed out a 60-day jail sentence to a man who raped a little girl many,many times over a four-year span starting when she was seven.

    The judge said he no longer believes in punishment and is more concerned about rehabilitation.

    Prosecutors argued that confessed child-rapist Mark Hulett, 34, of Williston deserved at least eight years behind bars for repeatedly raping a littler girl countless times starting when she was seven.

    But Judge Edward Cashman disagreed explaining that he no longer believes that punishment works.

    "The one message I want to get through is that anger doesn't solve anything. It just corrodes your soul," said Judge Edward Cashman speaking to a packed Burlington courtroom. Most of the on-lookers were related to a young girl who was repeatedly raped by Mark Hulett who was in court to be sentenced.

    The sex abuse started when the girl was seven and ended when she was ten. Prosecutors were seeking a sentence of eight to twenty years in prison, in part, as punishment.

    "Punishment is a valid purpose," Chittenden Deputy Prosecutor Nicole Andreson argued to Judge Edward Cashman.

    "The state recognizes that the court may not agree or subscribe to that method of sentencing but the state does. The state thinks that it is a very important factor for the court to consider," Andreson added.

    But Judge Cashman explained that he is more concerned that Hulett receive sex offender treatment as rehabilitation. But under Department of Corrections classification, Hulett is considered a low-risk for re-offense so he does not qualify for in-prison treatment.So the judge sentenced him to just 60 days in prison and then Hulett must complete sex treatment when he gets out or face a possible life sentence.

    Judge Cashman also also revealed that he once handed down stiff sentences when he first got on the bench 25 years ago, but he no longer believes in punishment.

    "I discovered it accomplishes nothing of value;it doesn't make anything better;it costs us a lot of money; we create a lot of expectation, and we feed on anger,"Cashman explained to the people in the court.

    The sentence outraged the victim's family who asked not to be identified.

    "I don't like it," the victim's mother,in tears, told Channel 3. "He should pay for what he did to my baby and stop it here. She's not even home with me and he can be home for all this time, and do what he did in my house," she added.

    Hulett -- who had been out on bail-- was taken away to start his sentence immediately.
     
  2. DontBurnMyFlag

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    Argh that stuff makes me so mad. :fire: :cuss: :banghead:

    Rape is the most under-punished crime in America. Just the other day I was watching a police show and a drug dealer with 500 dollars worth of crack-cocaine got 15 years in jail!!! I agree, he deserves time and whatnot, but 15 years of his life and tying up the legal system when rapists get 60 days!!?!?!

    We need the boondock saints.
     
  3. HighVelocity

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    Wow, that is just, undeniably wrong. :fire:
     
  4. LSCurrier

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    Why do judges get away with the things they do? :fire:

    This judge should be fired, impeached, or whatever it takes to get ride of him!!

    If that was my little girl I cannot even tell you the things that would be going thru my mind!!!!!!

    Luke
     
  5. Strings

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    I just... wow... I have NO clue what to say...

    My first (emotional) response is "GET A ROPE!!!". Problem there being, I'm not sure if it should be used on the perp or the judge... :banghead: :cuss:


    I'm not sure I'd be able to control myself if I was in that courtroom...
     
  6. ghost squire

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    This is an interesting one. On the one hand the American justice system was founded for reform. On the other hand it has become a punishment/reform system.

    I had no idea judges could just make up their own minds about things this important.
     
  7. sm

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    Perhaps Lee and Phil Carson really do need to get busy on a book.

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=2130546&postcount=19

    The Effect of Spewing Lead Onto Recidivism

    re•cid•i•vism (r-sd-vzm)
    n.

    1. A tendency to lapse into a previous pattern of behavior, especially a pattern of criminal habits.
     
  8. longeyes

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    No, he still believes in punishment, only now he's punishing those who want justice done.

    Perversion rules.
     
  9. gunner03

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    He should serve the other 7 years and 10 months!!!!!!
     
  10. odysseus

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    Disgusting. The punishment does not fit the crime. The judge is advocating his politics from the bench at the cost of pain to the victim and her family. I am absolutely angry about this. Bad karma.... bad, bad karma. :cuss:
     
  11. mrtgbnkr

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    Easy solution....Get TWO ropes! Or use both ends of the one you've got (counter-balance system?)
     
  12. Standing Wolf

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    I'd say that individual needs to be disarmed.
     
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    That little girl is someones daughter. I wonder what he would have done if it was his daughter. What an ***hole:cuss: :barf: :cuss:
     
  14. Atticus

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    If that was my daughter, I know where he would be going in sixty days.
     
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    I agree that this is ridiculously wrong. However, something else that also really bothers me is that the people that run this news agency cannot perform simple math. If the problem started when the girl was seven and it says clearly that is lasted until she was ten then how in the hell do they figure that this lasted 4 years when they state plain as day that the dude did his business for four years? Anyways sorry had to vent about the ignorance there. As far as the judges sentence, I think the judge needs to be stuck into a prison with a bunch of gay men running rampant in which case the bigger bubba takes advantage of him for 4-5 years, then we shall see how he feels about this scenario. If he still feels like his sentence was fair after that then we should just shoot him point blank as his gene pool does not need to be allowed to reproduce due to ignorance.
     
  16. Crosshair

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    Wait, can't you shoot someone who is commiting rape? Just have a few people tail him. I don't think he is going to sleep well for awhile once he gets out.
     
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    Shoot, Shovel, Shut Up.
     
  18. SomeKid

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    This is a good thing.

    The Father (if he is a Father) will still have all this fresh in his memory, being as 60 days is such a short span.

    BG gets out, BG checks out.

    Go to the judges house, off him. Claim insanity. Or, if you do not wish to shoot the judge, you can just make sure your murder trial goes to said judge, and get him to give you a rehabilitation sentence. After all, you never want to shoot anyone again, you are rehabilitated, no sentence needed.
     
  19. Drewtam

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    At age 7,8,9,10 = four years;

    On topic: This judge seems to have swallowed the lie that its about retribution and righting the wrong; the issue is about justice. People have some mixed up ideas about justice.
     
  20. The Kidd

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    Mrtgbnkr has it right. Use both ends of the same rope. Restore our system of 'checks and balances'.
     
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    I'm amazed the judge has that much discretion.

    To the question he begs though, what is the purpose of jail? Isolation? Vengeance? Reform? Deterrence? Does jail accomplish its purpose?
     
  22. Kim

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    This guy may not make it out of jail alive. This judge needs to be impeached,voted out of office or the mafia needs to take care of him. He needs to go be a citizen of some European Nation. This makes me ILL.
     
  23. Lupinus

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    If that was my little girl or little sister or whatever? That judge better damn well put him away for more then sixty days. That man is goign to want to be someplace I can't get to him after doing that. Punishment doesn't work my hairy italian rear end, worked fine for thousands of years. Judges liek this should be thrown in jail.
     
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    The judge needs to do a little homework before doing something that assinine.
    Most psychiatrists will tell you that there IS NO cure or rehabilitation for sexual crimes or tendencies.
     
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