Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by kokapelli, Jul 19, 2014.
Because they melt if you throw them in a fire??? Can't think of another reason.
You must be relatively young.... Even my toy guns were made out of metal.. That is of course, if you count pot metal/die-cast/zamak as "real" metals...
I don't have any issues with polymer guns at all. I like them They allow for the average shooter to get a high quality firearm at a reasonable price.
That said, I prefer big ol' metal guns. Most of my carry side arms that I'm not trying to conceal are just that. A 92FS, or a full size 1911, or a stainless .357.
I still have several polymer guns that I shoot often though. My nightstand gun is an FNX. I carry an FNS-40 when I can't get 9mm or .45 ammo. Even my beloved little Ruger Mkiii is the kind with the full polymer frame. I generally don't walk the dog without carrying my Ruger LCP in my pocket. Polymer has always performed well for me.
I just like the look and feel of metal more.
I never liked polymer, with the really odd exception of the HK VP70z, (yeah, I know, I need help), until I had my own, starting with the CZ SP-01 Phantom, through the CZ P-07 and CZ P-09.
I still don't like Glock, but THAT has nothing to do with the frame material.
No issues with polymer. It works. But, all metal feels good in the hand. As a 'working gun' polymer is fine, but shooting a nice 1911 vs a glock 19 is like driving a really nice older sports car vs a... New honda or something, but I like both.
I would LOVE to see what JMB would have come up with today though...
Because I like all steel, I don't even like aluminum frame!
Glock 19 nuff said
I like my polymer guns as much as my steel framed guns.
I admire metal guns, but appreciate the practical advantages of poly too... Especially since getting my Five Seven - love the light weight.
Most of them are ugly designs (to my eyes). Other than that, I have no particular problems with them.
I have a few poly guns. BORING!
They are useful though. I still prefer steel\alloy though.
I have no particular feeling about polymer as a material; I like that most polymer guns are lightweight. My issue is generally with the striker-fired actions that most polymer guns use. I find that I really don't care for the trigger pull in Glocks, or the M&P (stock that is, I've never experienced an Apex trigger), or the Ruger SR series. I shot an XD years ago but don't remember much about it. Glock/M&P I just don't shoot accurately; I wanted very badly to like the M&P but it didn't work out and I sold it off.
That said, I currently own a CZ P07, which I think is FANTASTIC. A light, compact polymer-framed gun with a more traditional DA/SA action; what's not to like?
Well, hi-point certainly counts it as metal!
Because I don't want a Tupperware revolver
I have never even given it much thought. I have polymer, steel and alloy guns. I seem to like my SP2022 more than any of the others. I carry the P938 most of the time. I have a 1911 that seems like a boat anchor, and an Airweight that I will never let go of.
To me, if it works, I like it. If it does not work, I don't keep it. I suspect that polymer has allowed most of us to own guns that would be prohibitively expensive if they were steel or alloy. I also suspect that polymer has allowed the manufacturers to introduce new guns more quickly and to develop technology at a faster rate and we have all benefitted from that.
But then, when the Pontiac Firebird was introduced without good "steel bumpers", I can remember my Dad saying that cars would never be safe to drive again. Try to find a car with steel bumpers. Then ask yourself if you would buy one if there were.
I like polymer and metal frames.
Glock specific problem: Side loading. This manifests as groups off to one side. I have been researching this problem and it is caused by side to side hand pressure. The Glock frame can be sensitive to this and requires consistent forward and back pressure on the grip. A friend of mine has been fighting this for a year. Unfortunately, the G19 is too large for his hands. I thought it was technique.
I never gave the material much thought, until, like several others, I bought a Glock 22. My gun buying has never been the same.
Besides the Glock 22, I own a Walther PPS 9MM ( GREAT carry pistol and very Glock like), a Kahr CW .380 ACP and a Ruger SR22P. All polymer, all very light and easy to carry and all are extremely reliable, especially the Glock and the Walther.
While I love the look of blued steel and and nice grips, my Ruger Blackhawks have custom grips, the one pistol I would grab would be the Glock.
I kind of cracks me up that, after 30 years, we are still discussing the merits of polymer-framed pistols.
If JMB had advanced polymers during his lifetime, he would have used them. He was an innovator that was not one to be tied down by convention.
The main reason for the poll is to see if there are any legitimate technical reasons to not own Polymer framed guns and based on the poll results there clearly is not.
Also based on the poll results the number of people that like Polymer guns way out numbers those that do not.
Me too. Of course the 9mm vs 45 debate goes on. The forged vs cast debate goes on. The striker vs hammed debate continues. The DA/SA and SAO revolver goes on and on and on at times.
I think we as a gun community need some new topics to talk about.
What do you think we should talk about? No real inventions in at least 50 yrs. most tech dates back 100yrs.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I didn't mean to imply that we shouldn't talk about these things anymore. They are still relevant conversations, especially as new shooters come to THR, but they have all started to sound the same. And you are totally correct, it's all old tech.
Let me restate my remark. I wish we as a gun community had some new topics to talk about.
Ok, I'm listening
I have never owned anything but 1911's but this weekend a grandson was married and we all got together before the wedding for some shooting. My son had his Glock and his wife had hers at the "shooting". My next may be a 30S.
My statement was in response to Fishbed77's remark about how we're still talking about this after 30 years. My point was that we are still talking about a lot of things after a long time. And that's ok. The discussion of polymer use is still interesting and relevant.
. I'll start a new thread and pm you when I come up with a good one.
Hmmmm. How about..... Light and fast vs slow and heavy! Oh wait.....
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