I don't understand people like this.

[Corporal K]

I offered to buy my buddy's 92F for $450. He declined but sold it a year or so later for $380.

However shortly after he declined my offer, I bought a 92F that was in much better condition than his for $450.

I came out ahead, but I don't rub it in. I just always found that little exchange to be odd.

 

[Coal Dragger]

Life is too short to spend hanging around with stupid people. Get a new friend.

 

[jnyork]

[QUOTLife is too short to spend hanging around with stupid people. Get a new friendE][/QUOTE]

What he said. You do not have friends if that is how they are, you just have acquaintances.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

I have a buddy who's done EXACTLY that. He needed money really bad one time, and had a nice Remington 870 that he was thinking of selling. When he told me the pawn shop offered him a $65 loan with the gun as collateral, I almost choked on my coffee!

This thing was basically new! He didn't even have a whole box of shells through it! I told him I'd buy it for more than twice that, but he wouldn't do it.

I told him later that I was kind of offended that he wouldn't sell it to a close friend and make more money, and instead practically GAVE it to a pawn shop. He told me that at the time, he thought he could go back to the shop after he got his paycheck to get it back. Of course he was so behind on other bills that he didn't have enough money to finish paying his other obligations when the paycheck came... so the pawn shop got to keep his LNIB 870 for $65...

I told him that if he had sold it to me, he could have bought it back whenever he felt like it. Instead, he let the pawn shop hold it as collateral on a two week loan. When he couldn't pay them back in two weeks they kept his 870.

You can't fix stupid. No matter how hard you try. People who are ALWAYS in financial shape like that are just not good with finances. Most of them will keep getting suckered like that for the rest of their lives.

...he had the gall to ask me to cosign on a loan a few weeks ago for a new car. I told him I knew how he was with money and that I couldn't do it.

 

[Sauer Grapes]

I guess I'm lucky, none of my REAL friends are into guns. All of my casual friends are from the gun club. If they have something to sell or I have something to sell, we haggle prices, if it doean't happen, no big deal.

If one of the guys wants NIB price I just say, no thanks. I know they aren't going to come down to where they need to be.

One guy at the club was selling a LNIB M&P9. He was asking exactly what he paid for it with tax. I told him in a polite way, you know, I can buy that new for about $90.00 less than you want. He bought it from a shop that iis notoriously high on their prices.

He's a nice enough guy, but he always thinks he's right and everybody else is being unreasonable.

 

[hemiram]

I used to have a friend who I, against my better judgement, loaned money to, holding a almost new Kimber custom 1911 as collateral for the loan. The agreement was if he didn't pay me the $700 I loaned him in 3 months, it was mine, and I would sell it, as I have no fondness for the 1911 platform, and Kimbers on top of it. Three months later, I needed the money for taxes, and I called him and he didn't have anything, not even $20, so I went ahead and sold it to a local guy, a mutual aquaintance, for $1000. I was doing my "friend" a favor, and he got super PO'ed when it got back to him I had made money on the deal. Now, if someone needs money, I either buy something and tell them I'm going to sell it, or if it's a good friend, I just give it to them and tell them to pay me when they can. So far, no bad feelings and I've gotten every penny back, eventually.

 

[oneounceload]

They get ripped off all of the time by shops

That has NEVER happened to your friends - not if they WILLINGLY sold their gun for what they considered to be a fair price - same thing regarding "gouging" - if two people agree on the "mutual consideration". then neither got ripped off - just because YOU do not think it is a good deal for them, doesn't mean they do think it is

 

[stchman]

I have a buddy that sells his guns without even giving me the opportunity to buy them.

 

[VinnAY]

And it could always be that people are just trying to nicely dodge you if they happen to believe, as I do, that business transactions between friends are a recipe for disaster at some point. I don't sell amongst friends, its bad business, if you will. And I tell them that.
If everyone else did so, perhaps we'd not have a thread about why Johnny won't sell me his gun but acts all coy about it.

 

[lwknight]

Its not just guns!
There was a fellow comrade firefighter that had a good plow who let me use it in my garden. He had no use for it at all but wanted it back home at the end of the day so I had to work hard all day. Thats all well and good so far.

When I returned the plow I told him that I wanted to buy it if he ever wanted to sell it. He said " Nope , its not for sale! ) Less than 2 weeks later , I saw his plow at a tractor dealers lot and confirmed that it was the same plow.

I would have given a good price for the plow and I know that the dealer did not give him squat because the dealer had it for sale for just over what I offered in the first place.

I got no use for that guy after that. I'm still mad every time I remember it.

 

[Hanzo581]

No offense but your friends don't sound very smart. And if they were your "friend" they would give you the opportunity to buy first if they knew you were an enthusiast.

 

[grymph]

Some people have rules about not selling anything to friends.

Last time I sold a car to my friend, he spread rumors about how I don't change oil, and I switched out the brake pads etc... Keep in mind this is no race car, just a good old 2005 Toyota Corolla, so I don't gain anything from swapping out anything from this car... But yeah, from now on, I rather sell to dealer or trade it than sell to a friend.

If you have a lot of friends that won't sell things to you, then maybe you appear to them to be someone that will give them trouble down the road?? Just a thought, means nothing more .
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I agree completely with this response. My wife wanted to sell our house to a lady she works with. This woman is one of her bosses. I have no idea why she would want to sell it to her because the woman is a huge B...h. Anyways, we did and i know that the first thing that does wrong with the place is going to be blamed on us. Our supposed neglect or wear and tear. I worry about my wifes job all the time. If she isn't happy there for whatever reason, her marriage, the kids, things that could be unrelated, it could even subconsciously be taken out on my wife.

 

[TNboy]

Most of you sound like you have really crappy friends. I've ditched all of those.

 

[grymph]

oops

oops

 

[mdug59]

Its probably lead poisoning...effects the brain

 

[Prion]

I just went to the gunshop and asked what they would give me, granted they're fair, and sold it to my buddy at that price.

Glad he has use of it and glad to give him a good deal.

I'd rather get less and sell it to a friend.

Those other guys don't sound like great friends, more like petty scrooges at best.

 

[kwelz]

No matter how hard we try to change it, the human mind is not always logical. Pride often gets in the way.

 

[mack]

I have people I do business with and then I have friends - they are not the same and never will be. If a friend needs money, I don't buy something from him or loan him the money - if I have it - I give him the money without expectation that I will ever be repaid - if he needed money and I knew about it he would not have to ask for it - I would give it without his having to ask - and a friend would do the same for me, though I would never ask or expect them to do so. There is a difference between family and friends and business - I never do business with family or friends. If a friend insisted on wanting to sell me a possession like a firearm because they needed the money and wouldn't take it otherwise - the only way I would do it - would be to pay their asking price - and then they would recieve their gun back as a gift from me.

 

[natman]

I'm sure you all have friends like this too. Anyway, it seems like I often have either friends, or people that I talk to every once in a while that run out of money and have to sell guns. Every time I ask about buying them, they give me an almost new price. For example a friend had a Remington 710 with a $50 scope he had added to replace the factory scope. He wanted $300 for it and finally told me he would take $250. I told him I'd give him $150 which I thought was more than fair for a Remington 710. He told me no, that if he couldn't get close to what he had in it, he'd just sell it to a gun shop.

Look at the bright side. If your friend had said yes, you would now own a Remington 710.

You're better off.

 

[Ronsch]

I have come to a hard and fast rule over the last 30 odd years of having my own money (since I started working at 14)...I just do not loan, trade, or buy from friends, no matter how good the deal. It is not worth the potential hard feelings that could crop up later.

If they want to do business, fine, but I keep friendship totally out of it.

 

[hometheaterman]

Yea, that's why I wasn't too bothered by that, as I really don't need a Remington 710, but this happens quite often and sometimes they are selling something a lot nicer than a 710.

 

[CoRoMo]

The few times that I've been offered an unwanted gun from a family member, or just someone that I know (as I posted earlier), I also didn't really want the gun(s) bad enough to pay anything close to the market value. I most always will just tell them to get some quotes from a few pawn shops, and I will out-bid the highest of those.

For the family members who've tried to sell me a gun or two, I've explained that simply HAVING the gun in their collection, might be worth more than the price that they will get for it. For example, they want to sell an old, but working, .38 revolver for $200, but it really isn't going to bring more than $100, unless they can sucker someone into it. I believe it's worth more to just hang onto, than to get rid of it for something like $80.

 

[otcconan]

Well, the saying goes, if you loan money to a friend you will lose both.
I reckon the same goes with buying their things from them.

Now, my two brothers have an arrangement. Older brother sold off all of his guns (because he got married and had kids and his wife didn't want them around) to my younger brother with the understanding he could buy them back at any time, and with the understanding they would keep them at my mother's farm, where both would have full access to them.

That worked out well, but then again, brothers are a little more than friends.

 

[bannockburn]

Whenever I made a deal with a friend about buying, selling, or trading guns, we have always agreed to the right of first refusal. It simply means that if one of us, at some future time wanted to sell or trade the gun, it would have to be offered first to the previous owner. Then if he decided he didn't want it back (for whatever reason), it was okay to sell or trade it with someone else. It's always work fine in every transaction that I have done this way, and I still have all my friends.

 

[hemiram]

My cousin had a 1970 Roadrunner that looked like it just came off the lot. When he was talking about joining the Navy, I told him to call me when he was going to sell it, that I wanted first chance at buying it. His cars always looked brand new, even after many years. It was black with the base 383 4 Barrel. In 1973, it had 10,000 miles on it, and was, as always, perfect, inside and out.

I had heard from his dad that he was joining up and was about to go off for training, and I expected to get called, but all of a sudden, a guy I went to school with showed up driving it. As soon as I saw it, I knew my cousin had screwed me over. I called him up, and he said he just "forgot", even though his dad had mentioned it just a few days before he sold it. To this day, I give him crap about it. I guess he really did forget, but I don't see how it's possible.