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I don't want to sound the panic button but I'd go ahead and buy an EBR soon

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by threefeathers, Oct 5, 2008.

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  1. threefeathers

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    I'd at least put a down payment on one this month. They'll be avalibla for a few months if Al-Bama get elected but the prices will begin to hit the roof after November.

    I have mine, so I'm going to get an AK locally and a Third Gen Smith from CDNN this month.
     
  2. JImbothefiveth

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    You got at least 3 months before he actually gets to office. My main concern is getting my first handgun, and maybe some slugs.(Slugs can pierce a level 2 vest, so he wants to ban those.:mad:)
    And let's not turn this political! This is a good thread.
     
  3. younganddumb

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    what was the point in posting that threefeathers????? we have went over this in numerous threads already!!!
     
  4. 2TransAms

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    Banning guns is not on the Dems short list of Things To Do anymore.

    Still,wouldn't hurt to pick one up just in case. The only way I can see gun sales being halted is trumped-up allegations of civil unrest due to the economy and a declaration of martial law.
     
  5. Timradcliffe345

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    There wont be a ban anytime soon. You all need to relax.
     
  6. armoredman

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    If we keep the current Congress, chances of a ban are much less than with the Clinton demo congress, as many conservative Demoswere elected to gain control. Not one pro gun bill will make it anywhere, but really bad ones probably won't either.
    That's IF we keep the current balance.
    Edit to add, I have no EBRs, just little fuzzy bunnies I hug...
     
  7. Javelin

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    Any hunting rifle pierces level 2 and 2A armor... Heck a .300 win mag will defeat level 3 & 3A armor.

    See my Sig line below and watch that video.

    Be safe.

    :)
     
  8. shotgun12321

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    May I ask what a EBR is?
     
  9. Deer Hunter

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    It's this kind of attitude that will get bans put into place.

    Ever thought about using the time you spent posting up this warning for, say, a letter to a congressman?

    Get your voice to those who need to hear it.
     
  10. Javelin

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    An EBR is almost $3400 from Fulton-armory?????

    LOL @ that. I can build a better rifle from Noveske with suppressor for less than that.

    http://www.fulton-armory.com/
     
  11. Gottahaveone

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    Evil Black Rifle
     
  12. shotgun12321

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    Sorry im such a nub, but what is that? Just like an assault rifle?
     
  13. Z-Michigan

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    +10

    Proposed bans will be introduced, and wither. As has been happening for the last 7.5 years under GW. Incidentally, GW said multiple times he would sign a reenacted AWB if one were to be sent to him. I don't know how serious he was, but he said that.

    Control of Congress is far more important to gun laws than which candidate is elected president. Congress writes and passes or votes down legislation. The president only signs or vetoes.

    OTOH, there may be other good reasons for buying the firearms you like right now, such as high and increasing inflation, or the possibility that there will be fewer or no imports due to non-US legal changes and treaties.

    Oh, and fuzzy bunnies are definitely the way to go. I will call them "CFBs" (cute fuzzy bunnies). They store well in a cage, safe, or freezer. :)
     
  14. RP88

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    There won't be a ban because we won't let it. How does that sound?

    basically is applies to any 'scary-looking' gun that would be restricted or banned by the current trend of assault weapons definitions. Some features include: semi-auto, detachable mag, hold more than ten rounds, flash hider or supressor, carbine-like barrels, pistol grip profile, the ability to eat children (have yet to find a gun that does this but I'd buy one if someone makes it - too many annoying kids on my block), and a general military-like appearance.

    So guns like AKM, AR, most pistols made after 1911, FAL/G3/CETME rifles, and others would be your EBRs. Shotguns that hold more than five rounds would also be considered EBRs due to the assault weapon section for shotguns, so most Mossbergs and Remingtons, and things like Saiga-12s would be banned. Alot of the aforementioned would also be banned BY NAME, instead of just by cosmetic features. the EBR term is a cynical coin and spin-around on anti-gunners' beliefs that such weapons cause all/most of the crime in the US, despite statistics showing otherwise (top five guns used in crime arent assault weapons if I recall correctly).
     
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    I think you mean IIa, II, and IIIa are able to be defeated with near ANY rifle (that's including .22lr supersonic, folks) and hard armor has problems with anything heavy (i.e. 338 LM, 300 WinMag, anything bigger) that isn't a soft pointed bullet. Most armor provides protection only against pistol bullets. :)
     
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    Prepared, yes. Panic? No.
     
  17. shotgun12321

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    RP88 thank you for that :)
     
  18. Dutchman01

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    Dream on. The dems will ban firearms and or ammunition at the first chance they get. They have to. Not only do the leadership of that party but most of the rank and file want limits to firearms ownership. It's an elitist thing. Things are what they are. :scrutiny:
     
  19. esmith

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    Okay so because there are bigger fish to fry means there is no possible way there could be stricter gun laws enacted? Im getting sick of people saying stuff like, "It could never happen." Im sure there were tons of people who thought it couldn't happen in '94. There doesn't need to be a ban on guns to make them hard to get. All that needs to happen is a tax raise of mass proportions of say, %500, on ammunition and firearms, which Obama has supported.
     
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    I'd like to say to all of you who feel the democrats won't ban, suppress, firearms ownership are just kidding yourselves. Most democratic supporters are still urban. Urban denizens are still wary of anyone owning firearms and tend to think hunting is barbaric. Pro-gun democratic representatives are still democrats that are expected to toe the party line when called upon to do so. Don't expect tigers to change their stripes just because you want them to. :cool:
     
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    Evil Black Rifle is just a term used for anything and all things AR. But you wouldn't be incorrect to assume that an EBR could include other rifles that most dems see as an "Assault Rifle" like an AK, or any other auto loader that could have been used in a conflict like the two mentioned before.
     
  22. Timradcliffe345

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    Instead of arguing over this, get out there and convert some antis and write to your congress(wo)man. Geez.
     
  23. mickmten

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    panic?

    I think there's a bit of an attitude out there that dems will ban all rifles and handguns - or at least make the attempt. Think about that - what exactly has happened in the last few years that would enable Congress and the Administration to actually allow that? We've had some pretty grim shootings in the last few years and there's been no sea-change in public attitude toward banning weapons. If anything, take a look at the Supreme Court decision a few months back concerning loosening the gun laws in D.C. - you can make an argument that gun laws will start to loosen up a bit.

    Now think about this - who benefits from such a panic? Well it appears to me that we're seeing prices rise for hardware and also ammo. Maybe stoking the fire a little bit, doncha think? I recommend a calm approach to all of this, chill.
     
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    This is always job one, to paraphrase the old Ford commercials. Taking non-shooters to the range and demystifying our hobby is The Prime Directive.

    But laying in a stock of things likely to be targeted by irrational bans is not a bad idea, either.
     
  25. Javelin

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    I did not read the OP's EBR as Evil Black Rifle but....

    EBR =
    The new M14 "Enhanced Battle Rifle."

    Is this not what we are talking about?

    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/CSA-2006-10-17-093634.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.flcairsoft.com/forum/index.php%3Fpage%3D44&h=2228&w=2796&sz=1238&hl=en&start=24&um=1&usg=__s8TXQBcz1fc8qbGBbmSQEGZTbHA=&tbnid=4oAvwQ-InVtekM:&tbnh=120&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Denhanced%2Bbattle%2Brifle%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

    Anyway I will say it again.. It seems a bit expensive at almost $3400. But it is pretty neat and the Army has been using them in Iraq (the old versions from what personally saw). I can think of 3 other rifles that would be more useful for less IMO.
     
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