I Goofed

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by TarDevil, Jun 22, 2022.

  1. dh1633pm
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    I could imagine the ribbing you would have gotten if your co workers found out. That’s makes your adventure all the more funny.
     
  2. bangswitch

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    It doesn't.

    I took the disconnect out of my BHP for exactly that reason.

    In NC, if you are carrying, you're required to have the permit on you as well. However, if you have a concealed carry permit in NC, it is tied to your DL. If the cops stop you and run your license, it tells them whether you have a concealed permit or not.
     
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    It’s not a matter of IF you leave your gun in a gun locker but, when.

    Almost everyone I know did it.

    Once.

    More than once? Yeah. It’ll get ugly.
     
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    FWIW, our local police chief had his gun stolen.
     
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    We had an Officer that carried a Beretta 92F.

    when he showed up for qualifications, the hammer wouldn’t stay cocked. Every shot was DA.

    The range master looked at it and told him that was normal. It was a DA only gun. It was a 92D.

    He told him the last time he’d qualified, he had to use the de cocker.

    Range master told him he was an idiot.

    Went and looked at his last qual sheet. Yep. Different serial number.

    The serial number he was carrying did not belong to anyone at our department. (200+ Officers)

    So. Someone, from Dallas County. Tarrant County. Somewhere, was picking up or dropping off a Prisoner. Locked up their 92D. Our guy stuck his 92F in an adjoining lock box.

    The locks were pretty sloppy. One or the other grabbed the others gun. The other got what was left.

    Somewhere, some cop or deputy was bitching to their rangemaster that the hammer was stuck back on their Beretta.

    It was never resolved. He just got used to the decocker.
     
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  6. Night Rider

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    That's the primary reason I bought it?
     
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    Stuff happens. I once walked around all day with an empty holster. Upon returning home I discovered the holster empty and began wondering how and where I dropped it. Was getting ready to report it lost when I looked in the safe. There it sat, right where I left it.
     
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    Wow. I guess between my dad and the Army pounding weapons retention awareness into my thick skull, I've never had this problem.
    Closest I've come is lending a shotgun out at the trap range and having the person bring it back when they leave.
     
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    I know of an operator who rolled out of the wire with his M4- but he had 7.62 SR25 mags on his kit (body armor). Fortunately, all vehicles carry plus-up cans w/ loaded M4 mags, so he was able to correct it before it became a problem.
     
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    It make me feel good that I am not the only one that suffers being forgetful and it just gets worse. I once drove over 200 miles one way to go quail hunting with an uncle. When I arrived I found I had a shotgun and no ammo. Uncle Pat saved my day as he shot the same guage as I did.
     
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    I once did the same, had my pistol on me, but left my wallet home with my shield and ID.

    Very bad thing to do in NYC.
     
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  12. TarDevil

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    I've done this twice. First time I was by myself (not long after I got my CCP). Just laid the gun on the dash and turned around. 2nd time my wife was with me. I field stripped the gun and stuck in in the trunk. She had to buy dinner that night! :D

    Poses as question... say you got pulled over, gun on the dash. Cops asks why and you fess up. Can he cite you for carrying without the permit? I mean, you're caught red handed.
     
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    I learned very early in my career, courtesy of a senior colleague, to always put my car keys in with my pistol whenever I had to lock it up. That solved any "left behind" issues.
     
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    We did have one young agent leave her Glock in the ladies room. Thankfully the restroom was in a secure LE only area so not as big an issue. However, the weapon had a round chambered, but no magazine inserted. When the lead FI returned her weapon and asked about the missing magazine, the reply was that the loaded magazine made the pistol too heavy on her hip, so she carried the magazine in her purse. She instantly got a whole lot of remedial training.
     
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  15. TarDevil

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    Stunning... not in a good way.
     
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    My biggest fear about future carrying (I apply tomorrow) is that I forget to stash the gun before going into a a place that is designated "gun free".
     
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    In several states the "gun free" or "nu firearms allowed" signs do not have the force of law and are not enforced by police. If the property owner discovers you have a firearm, they can demand you leave, and if you don't, you can be cited for trespassing. Other than Governmental Buildings, schools, etc. I don't normally frequent such places.
     
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    Jail lockboxes eat service weapons lol. My second year as a police officer (wow, 33 years ago) I got to work and went right into briefing. When it was over the briefing sergeant had me come to the front of the room and asked the officers present if they noticed anything about my uniform. I had just had it pressed and I knew my badge, boots and gunleather were shining like diamonds so I was ready for some compliments. Instead I got, "the dumb SOB has an empty holster." And back home I went (45 minutes one way) to retrieve my 66. Not exactly the highlight of my career but I have repeated this story to every trainee who has been assigned to me over the years. Mistakes do happen.
     
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    And, where were you in 1988 to share that nugget of wisdom?

    :)
     
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    Yep, it happens. Don't panic, don't mess with your clothes, don't keep looking to see if you are printing. Then get out of there.
     
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    Went through the academy in 1986 and learned then!
     
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    There is that, but I was thinking more in the lines of say, the post office! Yikes!
     
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    Took the dogs of a walk. On the way home stopped to buy a lotto ticket. Realized I had forgot my wallet, and badge.
     
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  24. bangswitch

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    That's a good question. On the one hand, the CWP (as it is called by NC) holds the bearer to a higher standard than a non-holder, so maybe LE would expect you to have the permit any time you're carrying, whether concealed or not. On the other hand, the weapon is in plain view, which is the legal standard for open carry in a vehicle in NC, and you would be like any other person without a permit. I think maybe the bigger issue would be if you'd left any ID behind along with your permit. I used to teach concealed carry in NC, and in the class I took to become an instructor, several questions were brought up that our instructors admitted there was no pat answer for, and it would be upon the officer on the scene to evaluate and rule on, based on circumstances at the time. I think the short version of that answer would be "maybe".:D

    She sounds like one of those agents the FBI gave up on the 10mm because of, couldn't handle the recoil. If you wanna play lumberjack, you have to be able to carry your end of the log. A loaded pistol is not a fashion accessory.
     
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  25. JR24

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    No, I’ve never done anything like that. Never left accidentally without my gun, with my gun unloaded, empty holster, forgot my spare mag or anything. I’m a little too OCD about my routine to do any of that apparently (not that it can’t eventually happen some day).

    My preference for dry fire is to have a specific dedicated dry fire gun, which is loaded with snap caps all the time and stays down in the basement safe (I dry fire in the basement). Helps avoid mistakes, but I’m fortunate enough to be able to have a duplicate of my carry gun.
     
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