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I guess I messed up my first car jacking

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by duckfoot, May 26, 2004.

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  1. duckfoot

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    After a very long day down at Durham City Popo Station, I am now free to post the events that happened to me late Tuesday night at the NorthGate Mall, in Durham NC.

    After I picked up a bracelet at Durham Jewelers for my wife’s birthday, I headed back to my car at the far end of the east parking lot. After approaching from the back and getting in I see a piece of paper taped to my back window. So I turned the car off and got out but as soon as I did, the hair on the back of my neck when strait, when I realized that I didn’t see any paper when I got in. Only one other time have I ever had that feeling, was when I pulled over to help a lady on a NC back road after a day of hunting, and that didn’t go to smooth either. Anyway, head on a swivel left, right, six, movement to my 4 o clock, turn, short squat guy, and a tall shinny guy + pipe advancing quickly from around the front of the car, backstep, draw, off safety, issued verbal warning, fellows withdraw. All of this happened faster than you could read that pervious line.

    Since I don’t carry a cell phone I drove around to another mall entrance and called the Popo. As per job description, Popo filled out report, asked why I had a gun, and other remarks and happenings that I don’t care to share, and was taken to the local substation, to see if I could ID the would be Robin hoods.:confused: Come to find out that there is a was rash of car jackings all over Durham with the same MO but my was the first in a few months. Mark gets into car, sees taped paper on back window, mark gets out and leaves keys in car with car running. Mark gets thumped from behind, and car is driven away. Well at least the desk sergeant gave me a “good to go†before I went in, but then I was grilled about why I thought I had to pull my gun.:fire: I was there all night.:banghead: Six years of anger management paid off last night and this morning at that Police Station. Oh, and don’t ask me where my gun is either.:rolleyes:


    It’s all right I‘m not mad 1 one thousand 2 one thousand………., I got another. I also have my life and my car:neener:

    Duck
     
  2. Stebalo

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    Can I ask when you'll get it back?
     
  3. abdrdude

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    I'm glad that you WERE well armed. To me, the police asking "why are you armed" is a No Brainer.
     
  4. Greg L

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    I've heard of this method being used elsewhere also. The best thing to do (against human nature I know) is to drive away & then look at the paper.

    WTH is up with the police questioning why you had a gun? It sounds like it saved you from at least a broken skull :cuss: .
     
  5. Brian Maffei

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    They have to ask?:scrutiny: Would they have pulled their gun?

    Anyway, glad you're ok...scary just reading it.
     
  6. gunsmith

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    Why am I armed?????

    "I will disarm officer if, you follow me and my kin around 24/7 and take a bullet mean for me at the next carjacking"

    If you have a CCW,how is it they can confiscate your gun?
     
  7. spartacus2002

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    OK, I'm slow, but do you mean the po-po actually confiscated your pistol??
     
  8. wintermute76

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    Glad you're ok. Hope everything goes smooth and you get your handgun back in short order.
     
  9. gggman

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    You didn't fire a shot, and they confiscate your weapon??????
    What gives with that?:confused: :scrutiny:
    You do have a carry permit, right? What gives them the right to take your weapon away?:cuss: :banghead:
    Glad you're OK. Raise some h**l about that weapon confiscation!!!
     
  10. possenti

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    "Oh, and don’t ask me where my gun is either."

    I have to ask...

    Did they keep it? Do you have a CCW?

    I don't tell this story much, but ...

    I used to work across the river in Ohio (pre-CCW). Early one dark morning, a 'minority youth' approached me leaving a BP station after I just bought a pack of smokes with a 20. With his hands in his puffy coat pockets, he demanded "the rest of the money in your pocket." When he got within arm's reach, I landed a hard, low roundhouse kick into his left knee, and followed up with a hard right hook to his jaw. Seemed like it spun him around 3 times before he hit the pavement with a splat. Out cold.

    I looked around the empty lot. No one around. The clerk inside had his back to the window. I got to my truck quickly and left. I started asking myself - "who do I call - who do I tell?" Before I got to work, I decided to totally keep my mouth shut. The famous Cincinnati riots had just happened a few months before this incident. I was scared that if the perp was badly injured - or worse - all hell would break loose again. I may - or may not - have had my KY-licensed CCW pistol in my truck at the time also.

    For a few days, I explained my swollen pinky knuckle as an injury I sustained at work - while I nervously watched the local news for a story about a "Choir Boy Assaulted in Gas Station Parking Lot while asking for Donations for his Church." Never heard anything, but I think the young man will think twice before he tries that crap again.

    Not to second guess your situation, but you should have left the cops out of it - IMHO.
     
  11. Waitone

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    Did Dur-ham's finest indicate why they evidently thought it was in appropriate for you to pull your legal CCH?
     
  12. 4v50 Gary

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    Why were you armed? Because sarge wasn't there to stop the bad man who carried a pipe.:rolleyes:
     
  13. JohnKSa

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    I tend to agree. You had everything going your way up until you called the cops.

    Interesting thought:

    Two guys threaten you with a pipe to try to steal your car. If you had retreated instead of confronting them, they would probably have left you alone (based on their M.O.) and taken the car. You could have claimed the car on insurance and gotten reimbursed.

    Another group of people confined you, took your gun and antagonized you all night. They will probably want to antagonize you a bit more before they finally leave you alone. Worst of all, you can't ask your insurance company to replace the gun.

    Tell me again who the good guys are...
     
  14. The Real Hawkeye

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    Sounds like he was almost victimized by one group of thugs, then actually victimized by another group. :fire:
     
  15. The Real Hawkeye

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    Oh, by the way, you handled the situation exceptionally well, IMHO. Calling the popo is a natural reflex for decent folks, but lately it is becoming almost as dangerous to your rights as surrendering to the criminals.
     
  16. Devonai

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    Don't call the cops???

    "My buddy and I were just out for a walk when some crazy guy pulled a gun on us! His license plates were..."

    No matter how adversarial the police may be, you've ALWAYS got to call when self-defense is your defense.
     
  17. Rabbit9

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    .....Two quick double-taps. Then call police to report assault with a deadly weapon, was in fear for my life, and acted in self defense to prevent bodily injury.

    Two less scumbags.:evil:

    I don't question what you did, but have you ever heard of the 7-yard rule for knife attacks. A pipe is most certainly a deadly weapon, and the front of your car is much less than seven yards.
     
  18. Trebor

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    I agree that you need to call the cops. If you don't, and the bad guys do, now YOUR the bad guy.

    Your SECOND call should be to your lawyer. Give him a very brief description and tell him what police jurisdiction you are in. Depending on circumstances, you may want him to meet you at the police station as well.
     
  19. iamhistory

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    sounds to me like YOU were treated like the carjacker in this situation. I'd be damned if I would have sat there all night being interogated about why I thought I had to draw.

    And it sounds like their investigation is going oh so well since they are out there breaking this case that has been going on for months now.......................oh I forgot, they were wasting time hassling a law abiding citizen.

    Good job in the heat of the moment, for what it's worth.
     
  20. Treylis

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    I would have definitely asked them: "So.. if a man is coming at you with a pipe and intends to swing it, wouldn't you pull your own gun?"

    Absolutely ridiculous.
     
  21. Zedicus

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    I think you should get a Lawer dude...
     
  22. Samurai Penguin

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    Cop: "Why do you have a gun?"

    Duckfoot: "Just in case someone wishes to commit a crime against me...you know, like a carjacking or something. Boy, what a paranoid freak I am!"

    What boggles my mind is that my tax dollars are going to support crap like this. NC LEO's, either figure out who the good guys vs. bad guys are, or go sell insurance somewhere, OK? You're an embarrassment to the REAL cops who know what their job is. :fire: :cuss: :banghead:

    How 'boutcha, LawDog...would your department pull this kind of nonsense?
     
  23. Standing Wolf

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    Sorry, but that's wrong. The right thing to do is always the right thing to do. It's not always the easy thing to do, but it's still the right thing to do.

    Duckfoot, you did very well. I'm sorry the cops confiscated your gun—and hope you'll take them to court for serious dollars if you don't get it back PDQ.
     
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    Hmmmmm......are you sure you weren't in Kallyfornya? That's much pretty par for the course here.
     
  25. Zundfolge

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    Boy I'm glad I don't let my mouth get me in trouble like when I was a younan.

    When I was younger and dumber I probably would have responded like so:


    [cop] "Why do you have a gun?"

    [me] "so you're stupid as well as ugly? Gimme a pipe and I'll come at you but you have to keep your gun in its holster and lets see if you'll wish you had it in hand when I'm done bashing your skull in ... ya f-ing moron! ... I wan't my tax money back j***a**!"


    Today I would have just given him this look :scrutiny:


    Glad you got away with your health and your car ... too bad about your gun ... hope they don't "lose" it and it ends up in some cop's private collection, or like what happened to a buddy of mine, they don't carve the case number into the frame and slide with a dull chisel.
     
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