I guess people want a .40 now......

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  1. lionking

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    Last couple years talk of the .40 declining , certain manufactures eliminating the .40 in their lineup, so I have been on the hunt for a HK USP Expert in .40 for months now, a couple used ones have popped up on auction but wind up going for ending bid $500 more than a new USP 9mm or .45 does. Same with the USP Tactical. Slim pickings on a SIG 226 in .40 also.

    So guess now that HK dropped the .40 in the USP Expert and Tactical now a lot of people wants one compared to 9mm or .45 lol.

    At this point thinking of getting a regular used USP in .40 and putting adjustable sights on it which would keep the cost under $1000, really want a Expert though that comes with adjustable sights and a longer barrel as I intend to use it for target shooting but really don't want to spend $1800 on a used Expert in .40 when a brand new one in 9mm or .45 goes for $1300.
     
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  2. CDW4ME

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    I like 40 and carry either a Glock 23 or a 357 Sig Glock 32
    I have a Glock 19 but prefer either a slightly larger bullet (40) or a bit more power (357 Sig)
    Nothing wrong with a 9mm Glock 19 but I'm not suffering from small stature or wrist ailment. :neener:
     
  3. Mike J

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    I never quit liking the .40 although new guns in that caliber are less available now. Sometimes things are just a matter of timing. Last year before the whole world went insane CDNN had P229 & P226 law enforcement trade-in's for around $500 for months. Enter the pandemic, the riots & the panic & those deals are gone for now. I remember because I've always wanted a P229 I just have a hard time justifying spending the money on it.
     
  4. DustyGmt

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    My local shop just got this in the other day. Some time within the last year he had a .40 too. The first handgun I ever shot was a USP compact .40. Probably not the best gun to learn to shoot with, I was 10yo. Couldn't hit well with it 20+years ago, couldn't hit well with it last summer either. Just can't warm up to that trigger but in terms of build quality, design, anesthetics, I always thought the HK USP's were nice. IMG_20210321_154745.jpg
    ETA: I'm pretty sure my guy will ship.
     
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  5. shootstraight57

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    I have had a Glock model 23 for 20+ years. Carried one while on the job. I love it and would never think of getting rid of it.
    Snappier than my .45.
     
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    For a few years the USP was 450 like new and the 226/229 was under 400. Glock 22s were under 300. In 40. The 9mm versions were double
     
  7. Hangingrock

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    If memory serves me correctly, I've never fired a handgun in 40S&W.
     
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    I couldn't resist the cheap police surplus .40's last year, and ended up with a like new Gen4 G22 with night sights, for $279.
    It quickly became my house pistol, loaded with 180gn HST.
     
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    All my compact semis are .40’s. Found I shot them as well as my 9mms and when I decided to pare down calibers the 9mm would have to go (and ultimately it did).

    Recently I picked up an as new BPS Upland Special in 12 gauge. Was a smoking deal and couldn’t pass on it even though I already had one in the safe. Retired friend and ex boss stopped by one day, saw it and wants it for his grouse hunting gun. Now wants to trade me back a P89 with a full can of lose 9mm ammo I also sold him with the gun. Probably around 1200 total rounds. Wants to trade straight across. I’m somewhat tempted but don’t like the idea of bringing another caliber back into the mix.
     
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    I carried a Glock 22 for 17 years as a LEO. They work fine and the cartridge is very good. Even with all of the new bullet types helping the 9mm, the .40 S&W is still a shade better regarding ballistics. Granted, many of my colleagues shoot the 9mm better, but if you are good with both, I would opt for the .40 S&W.

    Now I need to pick up a Glock 22 to fit all of my accumulated leather and accessories!
     
  11. .455_Hunter

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    The .40 would definitely be my preference over 9mm when your threat matrix expands beyond Urbaneville and neighboring Tweakerville.
     
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    Fewer rounds & more recoil vs a 1 mm larger bullet. Prior to the current crisis 9 mm ammo was cheaper and practice was less expensive. Not true anymore for having plentiful 9mm ammo or just about any ammo.
    Reloading brass for the 40 seems more plentiful these days. Of course small is pistol primers are quite limiting.

    I guess if you like the 40 over the 9, getting ammo is about the same.
     
  13. Frankl03

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    I sold a pistol I loved (Witness Elite Match 40 S&W) to get to just one caliber, 9mm that I load. But I bought a Witness limited to replace it. Pretty happy with the Limited.

    I'm shooting my 9mm sparingly so as to not run out. I did pick up a couple 22lr pistols to have an alternative to shoot at the range. I have plenty of 22lr ammo right now.
     
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    I thought that statement was pretty incredible, to have never fired one of the top 3 defensive handgun calibers in the world. Then I realized that I have never fired a handgun in .380 ACP, or .32, or .25. Or .41 Special, or .327, or .45 GAP.

    Started carrying 30+ years ago with a .357 Magnum, then went to .45 ACP. .40 S&W came along and seemed like a good idea, so switched to it and have been carrying it ever since. Tried .357 Sig for less than a year and found it noticeably snappy. Switched to 9mm for primary carry about a year ago and it's fine. If Sig ever makes a .40 S&W P365 (which they never will) or if the new S&W Shield Plus comes out in .40 S&W (maybe?) then I will go back.

    I have three handguns in 9mm, but seven in .40 S&W.
     
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    I live in Excellentville but carry the same pistol everyday as when going to GreaterAnticipatedThreatville.
    357 Sig Glock 32 (or 40 S&W Glock 23) would be preferred in hand over anything "lesser" to defend myself, independent of location. :D
     
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    I am finding lots of .40cal brass at my range, so someone besides me shoots that caliber.
     
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    I had grown up shooting revolvers and 45ACP 1911s when I was younger, then when my Dad got a BHP in 40S&W, well I found the caliber that served me well and became my favorite semi-auto caliber in short order. I own that BHP now, but find I much more enjoy my 40S&W CZ P-09 and SIG P320 polymer guns so much more. I had the FNS-40 on my list but waited too long before they sold out. Since I can no longer find a new 40 handgun from my list, I've graduated to the longer 40 caliber and haven't looked back. 10mm is as easy to reload as the 40S&W and they share projectiles and some powders and is even more enjoyable to shoot than the 40S&W...and I can shoot both calibers in my M610. What's not to like?
     
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    Same here. If you're like me it won't take long before you're bored to death with .22lr and just want to throw it into the river. Well, maybe not that bad. I'm looking forward to resuming real pistol shooting again. I miss shooting my 9mm's but I consider myself lucky to be shooting at all. I can pretty much shoot 1 50ct box of 9mm per month for the next two and a half years but for now, it's.basically .22lr and 12ga, the two I shot the least of is what I now shoot the most. After that. I hope something is sorted by then. At the very least availability comes back. If I have to pay $30 for a box ever now and then so be it. Hopefully it goes back.....
     
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  19. UncleEd

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    The .40 continues to die in popularity.

    But when I see the phrase "a lot of people" to
    describe the caliber's popularity, the translation
    really is "a few people who agree with me" want
    the .40.
     
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    I bought two M&P .40 police trade ins a couple of years ago for my two sons, deal was too good to pass up and they both love the .40.

    I don't particularly like the .40, but couldn't resist this FNS-40 when it went on sale for right at $300.
     

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    You have missed out mate, go get you one..:)

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  22. Mars5l

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    It's taken me awhile to really like .40sw. I like to be different and with 9mm being the norm I gravitated to .40sw a little bit more. I first started with a LEO surplus MP40 that was alright to shoot. Then a Glock 35, it was a good shooter but still not a fan of Glocks. Next was a Beretta PX4 Subcompact. Yea... That's a bit too snappy for my tastes as a range gun especially shooting 180gr rounds. Cool gun though. After that was a HK VP40, great shooting gun that was accurate as hell with nice ergonomics. I now have a Sig 226 SSE, now my favorite .40 gun to shoot.

    I checked out USP 40 not long ago that was used. Didn't like the grip feel of it, prefer the VP40. I know the VP is supposed to be the entry level and the USP the higher line, but it didn't agree with me.

    I did like that .40sw was cheaper at times and easier to find than 9mm for awhile because of the pandemic but that eventually faded away.
     
  23. TTv2

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    Had you gone to any lgs 6 months ago to ask what they have in stock for 9mm and .40 ammo and what price, then what they have for 9mm and .40 pistols you'd have been shocked. Plenty of .40 ammo, almost no 9mm.

    The easy of converting a .40 to a 9mm in times of a shortage makes it hard to recommend just buying a 9mm, unless it's in a Sig 365 or single stack type pistol. Seems most of the popular doublestack brands that make a .40 there's a 9mm conversion barrel available from somebody.
     
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    And that is seemingly the only thing that matters to people is what ammo can be bought cheapest. If it's 9mm, they love 9mm, if it's .40, they love .40, if it's .380, then they love .380.

    The same thing's going to happen to Mosin rifles once the surplus ammo dries up and it goes to all of it costing $1/rd, then the Mosin is suddenly going to be unpopular.
     
  25. Hangingrock

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    As in my post (7) of this subject I've never fired 40S&W that I can recall/remember. My handgun experience started at MCRD Parris Island SC with familiarization firing of the 1911A1, two (7-Rd) magazines to be exact. Also the 1911A1 is and was the only handgun to this day I've used in an anti personnel application. As this is written my EDC is a 9X19mm. As for the 40S&W I remember its inception, rise in prominence and its demise. I'm satisfied with either the 45ACP or 9X19mm and simply believe not having experience with the 40S&W matters not. Others may see it differently and they are welcome to their viewpoint. .
     
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