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Discussion in 'Strategies, Tactics and Training' started by Impureclient, Mar 25, 2013.

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  1. Grassman

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    So some of you guys have your gun locked and loaded on your hip just sittin on the couch watching the TV huh? Please.....
     
  2. phillipduran

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    Prepare yourself, the replies are coming.

    Yes, on the couch, in the bathroom, playing with the kids , on the computer. I carry everywhere I am permitted to do so.

    If I knew when the time was that I would need a gun, I would only carry then. My gun is a part of my life. Carrying everywhere has taught me how to adapt to carrying a pistol. It has also sparked conversations with others and has done quite a bit to give me opportunities to teach my kids about living with firearms.

    Could you answer this? What is wrong with carrying on the couch?
     
  3. Grassman

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    It was just others getting on the OP's case for telling his son to get his carry weapon. If you carry 100% of the time good for you. I think a pistol in my drawer by the couch is sufficient for me. 100% of the time no matter what seems a bit paranoid. You know you are vulnerable when you are in the shower. What do you do then?
     
  4. nelsonal

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    That was the first thing I thought of, one of the first books I learned to read was a picture book bio of Louis Pasteur andwhatever the lesson was intended the one that stuck was the rabies would ruin your whole day and chemistry was one's lone ally!
     
  5. phillipduran

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    Preparedness is often mistaken for paranoia. If I was paranoid I wouldn't be able to function and I wouldnt be able to live my life.

    Hahaha, and now you know, I am not vulnerable in the shower either. It's within arms reach there as well. Like a Boy Scout, always prepared.
     
  6. buck460XVR

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    I think it's hard for us folks that don't need to worry about being attacked in the shower to comprehend a situation where others do. I have no problem with folks that truly need to carry 24/7/365 other than to appreciate the fact I don't. For the most part, odds are of my EDC gets used, it will be protecting my dog, while walking my dog. That's the payback for him covering my naked butt while taking that shower.......:D
     
  7. phillipduran

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    One of my family members had a home invasion when she was in the shower. It happens.
     
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    I'd have a hard time firing my carry weapon in town to defend my dog, but in the more rural areas I could understand. The fact that both of our dogs are adopted from the humane society and that there's a lot of other dogs needing to be adopted probably plays into that as well. Would hate to replace either of them, but I'd rather not lose my carry permit for a pet I can easily replace when I've already given them a good life.

    To the op, I'm glad you and your kid are ok, and hope the dog gets a clean bill of health. With regards to the discussion going on above, do you feel you'll be carrying more often now that this has occurred? Has it changed your perspective in any way?
     
  9. Stress_Test

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    +1

    You ARE vulnerable in the shower. Think about it. The sound of the running water is loud and covers up a lot of noise. If someone kicks in the front door of the house, you might hear the thump and think "what was that?". If you recognize that your home has been invaded, then what? You've got to get out of the shower, quickly, get your glasses possibly, and get your gun, and hopefully get into a good defensive position. All before the home invaders reach you.

    Don't let your guard down in the shower. Or when you're on the couch watching tv for that matter. Again, think it through. If you're on the couch or recliner, and somebody kicks the door in, how fast can you get out of that chair, and go get your gun out of the drawer across the room? If you're in the same room as the door that has just been kicked in, I bet you won't make it to your gun in time. I don't actually wear my gun usually when I'm in the chair watching tv, but I've got it right next to me where I can reach over and grab it.

    Be ready to throw down anytime, anywhere, including your own home. You don't get to pick the moment, the bad guys do. Paranoid? No. Reality sucks.
     
  10. Yo Mama

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    How about young children in the home? If I have a gun out, it's on me, in my full control at all times.

    Does anyone remember SledgeHammer, old 80s sitcom, he showered with his gun. :) Other than that, alarm system, dog, good locks, well lit property, ect.....
     
  11. hey_poolboy

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    +1 on shooting the coon. I've messed with my share of them and they die hard a lot of times, especially when you're trying to beat them to death. Good job on keeping your head and making sure you could safely take the shot.
    Fortunately, I've never had to use a gun in defense of myself or family. I did however think I was going to one time.

    I'm a HEAVY sleeper, so when I was awakened @ midnight by my wife screaming I thought the worst. I leaped from bed and had a 1911 and ran down the stairs as quickly as I could and still be able to see ahead of me. I found my wife screaming in the living room because a bat had flown in as she let the dog inside. A flashlight and a leather glove and he was back outside safely. I, however had enough adrenaline pumping that I couldn't get back to sleep. :rolleyes:

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  12. Grassman

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    No children here, off to college to become liberals, and undo all the work I did.
     
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    LOL!! That may be the best thing I've read all day! the truth really is the funniest.
     
  14. Yo Mama

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    No way, I have more faith in them that you raised them right. It's hard to fight the constant bombardment, but a solid home helps win the battle.
     
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    Rabies

    :what: It's been mentioned, but I'll say it again. There's no recovering from rabies -- rabies = dead. So if you have to shoot an animal like a raccoon under those circumstances, don't shoot the head because animal control has to send the head to its lab to be evaluated for rabies. And don't touch it or go near it! Call animal control to pick it up, if that's an option.

    I learned that one last year, but fortunately there was enough left to do the necessary testing and the rabies virus was not present.
     
  16. Agsalaska

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    Crazy story.

    And I for one don't blame you for not having you carry gun on you 100% of the time. Sure you can get robbed in the shower. But I bet more people have heart attacks in the shower than get robbed. Do they also have a phone and a defibulator? The truth is some do. Are they more prepared than they would be with a gun. You could argue that they are. I'm not saying you should or should not. It's not a lot different than people who drive 400 miles instead of flying because planes crash even though cars are just as dangerous. It's all about what makes you feel better and more secure. It's about peace of mind and nothing else. If you are more comfortable driving than drive. If you are more comfortable with a gun than have a gun. Neither way is more right or more wrong than the other.
     
  17. Impureclient

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    A few things to clear up and answer. My dog is up to date on shots, so I'm good there. The raccoon probably didn't start anything out of the ordinary so now worry about weird behavior from him. He must have been hanging out under that trailer I guess and my dog jumped over the 6' fence into the other fenced in work area to go after him. I noticed my dog sniffing around that corner of the yard the last couple days but I never put two and two together. As far as not carrying at all times, like I should, we were inside playing video games in our Pjs, t-shirt and boxer shorts. That's why I didn't go out there with the gun ready. I heard what sounded like a fight and was really just prepared to go separate two dogs. No tools could have removed that raccoon from my dogs mouth. Even after I fired the gun, he still wouldn't stop biting. I had him off the ground by the skin on his neck and up in the air and he had the dead raccoon in his mouth for at least 10-15 seconds while I yelled at him to drop it. Noteworthy is how he didn't flinch after I fired the shot(which was self defense for my dog's sake). Apparently, gun shot sounds do not scare dogs who are busy attacking something. At least not mine any way. I never did touch the carcass when I bagged him into the garbage. Animal control said it couldn't be tested due to the hole in his head which pushed the insides onto the ground and they told me to just bury him in the yard. My dog just has to be quarantined which is more of a inconvenience for them as they have to come out each week and just make sure my dog is doing OK just to be sure even though the dog is good for the rabies shot. My son is almost 15 and shoots with me all the time. He brought the gun out holstered like I asked. Also, no worries about me carrying not like I should. If I'm dressed and/or outside the house and not in a customers home working, I am carrying. We also went over if this happened if I wasn't around. As a matter of fact, my son is the one who questioned and I told him to handle it alone in the same matter with a raccoon. Dog on dog fights are a whole other ballgame that unusually take two adults who hopefully happen to be the owners(master/alpha leader) to separate in a "clean" fashion.
     
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    What kind of dog? Just curious.
     
  19. Impureclient

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    His mama is a Amstaff Terrier and daddy is a English Bull Terrier. Think Spud McKenzie with longer legs and a slightly less egg shaped head and not as dopey as a full Bull Terrier.
    Awesome looking dog. Everybody and I mean everybody says he is a looker. They should bread those two breeds to get them to be a new breed.

    Forgot I had pictures online from a website I made my son and I made a while back: http://liambutterfield.com/
     
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  20. bigfatdave

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    Some people do, I often do, if I have pants on I probably have a gun on the belt.
    Even if I don't have a gun on my person, I'd grab one to go outside and investigate a disturbance - and you would as well, if you stopped to think about it for a moment.
     
  21. MtnCreek

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    Good looking dog!

    Maybe a lesson learned on calling animal control? IMO, it's best to leave them and any other county/state department out of it.

    When you get the dog back, work on 'OUT'. :)
     
  22. ASCTLC

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    I see arguement for why one would wear their gun while sitting on the couch. I would no more remove my gun because I'm not using it any more than I go out of my way to remove my wallet or other pocket items when I sit down because I'm not actively using them at that time.

    Someone comes up my country driveway, the last thing I intend to do is let them out of my sight while I go get something I hope not to have to use...

    Andy
     
  23. 4season

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    You city boys are funny

    I know this is a gun site, but why would you need to grab your gun every time your dog barks? Not saying anything against the OP or what he did, as if my dog was having trouble putting an animal down I would certainly do it for him, but responding to all these wearing a gun while sitting on the couch or in the shower guys. When my dog starts barking in the middle of the night I open the window and yell at my dog, "Shut up and go get it." I only have to take the shotgun outside if it is up a tree and he can't get at it. Most the time before I got the dog it was the cat that would wake me up in the middle of the night outside fighting something. I have ran foxes and other cats off the carport with a bat and dispatched possums with an axe. Yes a cat will fight a possum for its food.

    Oh and for the dogs vs coons guys that think coons are always the winner, it depends on the dog. My dog is a doberman/boxer/pit mix. In the summer when the corn is coming in my dog brings me at least a dozen coons and leaves them dead on the carport every year. Some are small but many are full grown. There has only been one time that my dog had any mark on him and it was only a 3 inch scrap down his snout. He also brings kills rabbits, groundhogs, skunks, and possums throughout the year, but at corn time is when he brings in the coons at a rate of 1 every 2-3 days.
     
  24. armedwalleye

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    MY dog??
    I'da shot the coon, too, and probably a second time for spite on behalf of the dog, and fairly taken my chances with the local constabulary.
    MY dog thought she was human. I always thought she was better than that.
     
  25. Yo Mama

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    Dogs are very useful as a first line of detection. My dog knows when someone is on the property well before I do. It's valuable knowledge. I don't care if it's the Avon lady, I reward her for barking, because one day it may not be Avon calling.

    This site will give alot of info on the usefullness of being more aware than the general public. Half of not having something bad happen to you is knowing what's going on around you at all times. You should check into the Stragegies,Tactics and Training sub forum.
     
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