I #@!!*&@@# HATE CALIFORNIA!!!!!

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  1. QuarterBoreGunner

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    RileyMC
    Now that is a very good idea...

    And come on you guys, wouldn't you rather have us stay here and continue the fight rather than come to your state and raise house and rental prices?
     
  2. Rexrider

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    This is (still, yet, for now) a free country.
    You have the right to live where you see fit. I never understood the concept of "staying to fight". Fight what? You are simply way out numbered. Staying in a place that severely restricts your rights does not make much sense to me.

    If you wanted to stay in California because you loved it, enjoy your life, friends, and family, then so be it. If you don't think the advantages Calif. offers you or worth giving up something else that means more to you than all that other stuff, then get out.

    You live in a State. It does not owe you anything. Live where you want. It is your life to do as you please. And be thankful you live in a country that does give you the right to live where you please.

    QuarterBoreGunner,
    I think it is safe to say that any pro-2nd amendment person is welcome here in AZ. The reality is that there are a lot of the liberal, tree hugging types moving here from Calf because they can't afford it anymore. And they are bringing the CA politics with them. We need all the pro-2nd amendment people we can get so AZ does not turn into CA.
     
  3. carp killer

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    I think I would much rather be able to walk in a gun store and walk out 10 minutes later with an AR. :D

    Your not getting any younger. Time is running out.
     
  4. EOD Guy

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    That isn't true. Purely cosmetic differences such as finish or type of grips do not require a seperate test. The manufacturer can certify that the other models are mechanically the same.

    You're right about the BS part though. :)
     
  5. sturmruger

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    I don't blame you guys for hating Cali. It is one of the most oppressive state in th Union. I just wish we could come up with some kind of plan to slowly start to turn things around.
     
  6. Average Guy

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    After the law went into effect, the owner of a local gun shop put all his "unapproved" handguns into a glass case with a big sign saying how suddenly he couldn't sell them. Very sad.

    My question is, is the law retroactive? That is, if a manufacturer lets a handgun drop off the list, does the "unapproval" suddenly apply to the existing models in circulation? (The CA DOJ enforces by whim, so what's written down now guarantees nothing.)

    RileyMC, that's a beautiful comment. And would apply nicely to my "ghost" Makarov which I don't really have. :D
     
  7. Librarian

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    Yes, in the sense that dealers can no longer sell any they have in stock. PPT is still valid.
     
  8. joe4702

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    Say you move to CA with some handguns and don't register them per Cali law or perhaps you bring in one of those eeevil assault weapons (gasp!). Now what happens if one day someone breaks in your home and steals your handguns and AR-15. If you report it to the police, they will find out you did not register your handguns and that you also posses(ed) an illegal assault weapon. If you don't report the theft, they will find out anyway when the gun turns up at a crime scene. Bad news either way. Also, NRA Armscare insurance will not pay if an "unregistered" assault weapon is lost or stolen. Other insurance companies may be similar.
     
  9. Standing Wolf

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    I say most of the pistols where you see the date of expiration will be re-approved. All the manufacturer has to do is renew a fee not re-test them again. They all have expiration dates it doesn't mean they're just going away.
     
  11. 7.62FullMetalJacket

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    I was a resident of the PRK until they passed gun laws which made me a criminal (for not registering EBRs). I left. On 1 October 2004 I walked into my favorite gun store and purchased 2 AR15 (post-ban), H&KUSP45TAC, an H&K FP-6, many magazines (post-ban), lotsa ammo, and walked out in 10 minutes, at the range in 15 minutes. It was a good day.
     
  12. Ryder

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    Sounds to me like you've banged your head too hard on that wall we erected. Be advised that delusions of grandeur are not seen by us as a good thing.
     
  13. beerslurpy

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    As cali goes, so goes the nation?

    Since when? The nation has caught a major case of "we dont want what CA is selling."

    Things I dont miss after leaving CA:
    None of my guns are legal except a single bolt action gun. CA is not a good state for owning semiautomatic anything anymore.
    My weekend/track day car is illegal for street use in CA since it doesnt have a CARB certified turbo kit (I rolled my own) and is missing various smog bits (all of them actually). Owning any sort of hotrod in CA is a collosal pain in the ass.
    Paying nearly 20 percent extra in tax to the state.
    Paying 3 times more to rent an apartment than I do now to own a bigger house.
    No concealed carry unless you are rich/famous.
    No use of lethal force in defense of property.
    Gas is like 3 dollars a galllon, nearly as high as in england (ok not even close, england is like 8 bucks a gallon, mostly tax).
    The bottom half of the state is full of mexicans, both legal and illegal.

    All I miss of CA is the weather in the northern half and the mountains for driving in. Otherwise I would gladly push the entire state into the pacific and start buying up beachfront property in nevada.
     
  14. The_Antibubba

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    And the reason I'm so poor is...

    because, between taxes and Cost of Living, I can't afford guns-or school, or dating, or even a pizza. Or a real life

    The Makarovs are "The Last Straw".




    I'll keep everyone posted.

    Thanks for the "Budget" site, Standing Wolf :D
     
  15. AF_INT1N0

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    I don't blame you guys for hating Cali. It is one of the most oppressive state in th Union. I just wish we could come up with some kind of plan to slowly start to turn things around.
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    There is a way to turn things around. The next time you see some BHL(bleeding heart liberal) GFW (Gun Fearing Wussy) or just plain stupid CaliCommie...Slap Them. Everytime some A**Hole mentions something about how it is so great that the Declaration of Independence is no longer taught in schools because it has references to god in it..Slap Them. (Hard)
    If you see some Hollywood liberal blabbering about save the poor Islamic/Iraqi UN, French whatever... Slap them and then let TED Nugent kick the :cuss: out of them!!

    If enough of these morons get slapped back into the real world, we may even have a chance at saving the state. Then we move East.

    Note: While it is best to slap them immediately after they do something stupid; we shouldn't rule out retroactive punishment.
     
  16. R.H. Lee

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    You can whistle in the dark and hope the bogey man doesn't getcha, too. Fact is, what happens in California is watched very closely by legislators and activists all over the country. If it works here, you'll see it (or some attempt at it) patterned in your own state. You can run, but you can't hide. :p
     
  17. carp killer

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    If you even touch another person in Kali, it is assault. And you lose your right to own a gun. The waiting period/back ground check will catch it. The anti-gunners are already ahead of you. "The Man" is ready to haul your ass to jail if you in anyway resist the anti-gunners. :what:
     
  18. Jesse308

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    With the Bulgie Makarov off the approved list, can you still get one if the gun store still has some in invertory. :confused:
     
  19. jnojr

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    A little OT, but...

    Touching (in an angry or forceful manner) is battery. Assault is basically an attempted battery... if I tell you "I'm going to kick your ass!" and move toward you in a manner that a "reasonable person" would believe he was about to get his ass kicked, that's assault. And that's why there's no such thing as "attempted assault", since assault is, itself, and attempt.

    Assault and battery are not automatically felonies... the one jury I sat on, we convicted the mope of misdemeanor battery.

    Anyway, back to your regularly-programmed material... :)
     
  20. Malone LaVeigh

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    Yep, California is horrible. Stay away. Don't even think of moving here and adding to the sprawl. Tell all of your friends, too.
     
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    Once a gun is off the list, the dealer cannot sell it to the general public.
     
  23. Rumpled

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    Has the DOJ not recently updated? Has Century paid the mordida?
    Does Turner's know something I do not?
    Did Turner's realize too late when they printed the ad?
    Ohterwise, why would they run the ad?
     
  24. Librarian

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    I just sent email to Century and asked; if I get an answer, I'll post it here.
     
  25. dance varmint

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    Isn't California's state bird the Pinko Flamingo? Lord help us if it becomes the national bird.
     
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