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I have a Lyman 36 cal revolver

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by oldcoot, Mar 19, 2020.

  1. oldcoot

    oldcoot Member

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    In excellent condition, bought it new back in about 72 give or take still have the box it came in, could some one tell me what's it worth?? thanks in advance
     
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  2. Malachi Leviticus Blue

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    Hey me too! (I've got a few "Lyman" branded revolvers)
    I'm guessing it's either a Remington 1858 copy or a Colt 1860 copy.
    Either way it's likely worth about the same amount.
    All the Lyman C&B revolver I've seen have been manufactured by either Uberti, or Armi San Paolo.
    For most folks your 1972 version is worth less than a brand new version by Uberti which sell for in the $300-$350 range.
    There are some folks who have a collectors interest in earlier C&B reproductions, but most don't seem to be willing to shell out any extra money for them.
    Folks can get pretty touchy about discussing prices but I say from your description $250 +/- is likely what it's worth unless there is something special about it or wrong with it.
    If you're trying to sell it locally, the demand could be so low that you would be lucky to get $50, which is what I'd expect a local gun shop to offer if they would offer anything.
     
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  3. Malachi Leviticus Blue

    Malachi Leviticus Blue Member

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    post pics, lots of folks here like to look at pics.
     
  4. TheOutlawKid

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    :: raises hand:: ...i like pics.
     
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  5. Tommygunn

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    Me too! Me too!!! ;)
     
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  6. expat_alaska

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    When you take photos, please show the date code/proofs/SN. As Lyman was a distributor, any manufacturer marks would be helpful. As has been said, there are quite a few folks interested in collecting various replica (err... "reproduction") revolvers from the many early small Italian manufacturers from the area of Northern Italy/Brescia (Armi San Marco, Armi San Paolo, Gregorelli & Uberti, MOFRA, COM, et al), to include early Pietta and Uberti revolvers.

    That brings up the subject of parts and interchangeability.

    After ~2000, Pietta and Uberti (basically the only Italian survivors other than Pedersoli) used CNC machining when manufacturing their guns. Prior to that, Pietta and Uberti subcontracted with many small Italian manufacturers for parts, which sometimes vary significantly dimensionally from year to year.

    Just in my limited personal experience, I have an ASM (who went out of business in 2003) 1860 Army .44 BD/1994 that has different dimensions insofar as the grip assembly from earlier years (which I also have), primarily concerning the alignment of the top backstrap screws to the frame (not even a close fit), and the trigger guard, backstrap, and wood are of somewhat different dimensions/curvatures. Curiously, a replacement Uberti cylinder fits it very welI, and Uberti and ASM had a familial relationship in the 80's/90's. I also have a Pietta 1851 Navy .36 4-screw steel frame CFS (cut-for-stock) AZ/1990 and a Pietta 1862 Dance .36 3-screw steel BH/1996 which both have what I term as the "small" tail grip assembly [different from the CNC "large" tail grip assembly (2001-2014) and the "non" tail grip assembly (2015-present)] which are not interchangeable part-for-part but as a 3-piece assembly will fit any Pietta Navy or Army frame. The newer Pietta 1851 Navy CNC bolt and hand will not fit the older 90's frames, even when one tries to fit them to the older guns. Sorry to be so windy and possibly confusing.

    ASM parts are virtually unobtainable (check VTI), and I think much more so with the other small manufacturers.

    IMO, Malachi is spot on with his assessment, but if it a brass framed revolver I think he is a bit high even for collector purposes. I would put it at ~$200 or less.

    Pictures are of the essence!

    Regards,

    Jim
     
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  7. Malachi Leviticus Blue

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    I don't recall ever seeing a Lyman branded C&B revolver with a brass frame (but that doesn't mean it never happened)
    However, expat makes a valid point. Most of the brass frame revolvers have a significantly reduced price/value.

    See, pics would help get more accurate answers and satisfy some curiosities.
     
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  8. oldcoot

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    Thanks a lot guys, I do not know how to do pictures sorry, but if the price is so low I think I will just keep it
     
  9. whughett

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    Get some one with a smart phone to take pictures. List it in the Buy Sell Trade Black Powder Forum for what you want for it. Doesn’t mean you take any offer. Like some said some folks collect certain branded black powder revolvers.
     
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