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I have an interview with a reporter, help school me on gun-culture please.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by cyclopsshooter, Jan 22, 2013.

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  1. HJ857

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    I'll throw in two cents worth. First, it wouldn't hurt to point out the actual definition of what an Assault Rifle is. ALSO, make it clear that AR-15 does not mean "Assault Rifle-15" which I have a feeling many anti's believe.

    It may be worth clarifying that the NRA is not fueled by huge corporations like Exxon, BP Shell, Citibank, or whatever. The NRA is largely fueled by millions of people sending in 30 bucks. The NRA is maybe the largest grass roots organization in the country. It reflects the will and support of a whole lot of citizens rather than a few multi billion dollar corporations.

    Clever people know that a truth or a reality can be distorted by terminology. Semantics is everything.

    If they can make a twenty-something hippy wannabe with magenta hair that hasn't done one second of research on their own equate Assault Rifle with AR-15, then they win that battle.

    If Charles Schumer can get on tv and blatantly lie about how you can go on the internet and buy a fully automatic firearm that shoot hundreds of bullets per second, and get away with it, then they win that battle.

    If anti gun people can self label themselves as protectors of children rather than being correctly labeled as Anti-Constitutionalists, then they win that battle.

    If folks like you and me are labeled as right wing wackos instead of being called People that Believe and Defend the Constitution, then they win that battle.

    We need to be aware of what we say, and why. It pains me to see people use terms like assault rifle, sniper rifle and even evil black rifle. We're in a war now, using that terminology is just like leaving loaded magazines on the ground so the enemy can pick them up and use them against you.

    If we can bring some perspective and hopefully a more rational thought to someone that is on the fence, or even on the Anti-Constitutional side of the fence, then we've done something to help. Yelling and screaming never works, may as well be civil and informed.
     
  2. psyopspec

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    So I just realized in my myriad posts from yesterday that you said "local college paper" and not local TV station. My bad. Hope the advice was still helpful. Has the interview happened yet? I'm hoping you'll let us know how it went.
     
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    psyospec, your posts are some of the most helpful, thank you. I am waiting for the reporter to show... taking the time to re-read portions of Daniel Herman's "Hunting and the American Imagination. I'll let you all know how it goes.
     
  5. cyclopsshooter

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    Hmmm.. 45 minutes late... are reporters known for making appointments and not following through?
     
  6. Creature

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    So, the reporter is late.

    Brings to mind a tactic used by Miyamoto Musashi, a famous Japanese swordsman. He made strategic use of being late for his duels because his tardiness frustrated his opponent's concentration and resolve, ultimately helping him win a couple of his duels.

    This reporter is not your friend. Keep that in mind.
     
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    +1, they are just there to collect the data and you have no idea how the final article will be written.

    I work for a government enforcement agency and whenever a high profile court case is being covered by the media, we get to entertain a lot of reporters and lawyers.

    They are not usually the prompt, professional or the courteous type. They are often assigned to the story at the last minute and work with a rush to meet the press/assignment deadline.

    Recently, a current high profile case got covered by a reporter from another state and he came to our office 15 minutes before we closed! We were expecting the reporter around 9-10 AM, not 4:45 PM due to a mountain of documents that would take several days to go over. I don't know how accurate or detailed his article was going to be but he was reading a page every 1-2 seconds (there were several stacks of folders that were several feet high) and he only got through a few folders, nowhere near enough to get a good sense of the case he was to write on (imagine writing a book report after reading only first 5 pages of several hundred!).:eek: We kicked him out of our office at 5:05 PM.

    He was thankful for our patience and assistance but I could almost hear his silent cry of "Oh Noooooooooooo!"
    As the office staff walked out the building, we were asking each other what story he was going to make up for the article/editor ... :rolleyes:
     
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  8. cyclopsshooter

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    Well, It looks like I got jerked around. On the bright side I now know more than I did yesterday. Thankyou all for your help. I'll update if anything happens.
     
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    Not necessarily. Keep in mind that you may have been one of many sources the reporter set up to interview.

    Perhaps he collected "enough" data for the article and did not need or want your interview (not all reporters are objective and fair). If that's the case, the reporter should have given you a courtesy call that your interview was not needed.
     
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    edit: Deleted. I need to read the latest numbers before commenting.
     
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    The reporter probably found someone else who didn't take the time to research and formulate arguments properly, and got some "juicy quotes" for their piece.

    It's not about facts, it's about getting an hour worth of audio, so you can quote 20 seconds of mistakes and make gun owners look like nutjobs.
     
  12. SoCalNoMore

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    When I was asked to give a statement regarding the 2A and "assault rifles".

    First, take your time to respond. You DO NOT need to reply quickly. They will pepper you with questions most likely and try and get you off your train of thought.

    Begin with, "I whole heartily support and action proposed that will prevent the loss of innocent lives at the hands of criminals and those that totally disregard any laws the rest of us choose to follow."
    If need be, if they ask a really dumb question and you need time to think about it, retort with "Do you think we should abolish the second amendment?" Let them answer while you compile your thoughts. Their answer is not relevant to how you will reply even if they answer with another question.
    "However, I have yet to see or hear of any new laws that would have prevented the recent shootings in our country".

    There are plenty of great examples here. If you want to be well prepared, have a family member ask you questions so you can hear yourself answer.

    Good luck and let us know how it goes.
     
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    I like to point out one very important thing, it's about responsibility. I can put a gun on the counter between us and tell it to murder, kill, maim, destroy, etc... then ask the person opposite why it did not comply. We are trying to hold inanimate objects responsible for someone elses actions. We can use a car, baseball bat, knife just like they are supposed to, or we can use them for neffarious deeds, same with guns. Its the idiot behind the trigger, not the gun in the hand. What we need is better medical practices for the mentally disturbed.
     
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    reporter: "Why do you need a 30 round magazine?"

    you: "Why did Rosa Parks need to sit in the front of the bus?"
     
  15. cyclopsshooter

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    The guy showed up! Four hours late... He was a nice kid but was severely lacking in confidence. He had done no preparation and voice recorded the entire interview. I quizzed him about his background with guns and he spoke fondly of a Win 94 and a German Luger he hopes to inherit from his dad. He didn't have many questions and I just ended up talking.. (I don't think I put my foot in my mouth..) I tried to drive home how gun owners are a diverse group of people from all walks of life.. and tried to show him the correlation between the rise in mass shootings and the closing of the insane asylums in the 70s and 80s. I went over several other things but they escape me at the moment and another group of customers are walking in the door- I will try to post a copy of the article if I end up with a copy.

    Edit: Also talked about how bad guys like cheap guns to use and dump and that the guns in the spotlight are expensive and really only owned by more serious individuals. I mentioned the lady defending herself with the 5 of 6 shots, and. Also noted how gun-grabbers really know nothing about guns and mentioned the "Barrel Shroud Thingy" said by one congresswoman. There was more too.. I could have talked for hours but I remembered what someone said on this thread about tapes and figured the longer I talked the more likely it would be that I would put my foot in my mouth... Hope this works out well
     
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    Make it simple. Describe the Cheshire Home Invasion, what happened to the family, and how the police responded. Contrast what happens when the citizen is armed. The police are not going into an ambush situation to protect you. If they do great, but don't bet the farm on it. (no disrespect intended to LEO members or non-members)
    Second argument, "of course we all trust our current government." But what about our government 100 years from now? Do you think the present societal trends are going to lead to an unstable situation sometime in the next 100 years or not? How about severe climate change, asteroid collision, economic collapse, etc. How about another Watts-style riot, compounded by environmental/weather emergencies. Remember the Korean-American shopkeepers during the LA riots, multiply that by 100. Who wants to restrict magazines now? As responsible gun owners we need to train with what we might have to use, not keep them hidden away.
    For both private citizens and LEOs your capabilities are limited only by the amount of effort, time, and expense you put into training. (assuming no severe physical disability)
    And for those of us feeling the ravages of time, and becoming less fit, guns are an equalizer. I would also admit we need more accessibility for mental health services, we need to do a better job with storage and security, etc. But these would work out better as voluntary things rather than mandates. It is important to keep a degree of privacy about gun ownership, from the government, and others. From a societal point of view, the deterrent value is greater when half the population is armed, but nobody knows what half! (open carry advocates please don't give me a hard time) I would also be super polite and respectful, "President Obama" Senator Blah blah blah etc. It looks and sounds "High Road" and helps break down stereotypes of us as rednecks. (no offense to fellow rednecks, but sometimes it helps to keep it under wraps) GOOD LUCK!!!!
    {{sorry while writing my longest post ever I missed your report, looks like you did well}}
     
  17. mgkdrgn

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    My suggestion is that you cancel. There is -nothing- you can say they can't/won't twist around to make sound bad, including misquotes and outright lies. And maybe, maybe they will print a retraction later of some of the more outrageous lies ... on page 17, below the fold, when the orig article ran on page one.
     
  18. Byrd666

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    Funny, something like this happened to me a few years ago when the online poker ban was coming into effect, 'cept I had about twenty minutes to prepare. And yes, cameras, plural, and reporters, plural, were involved. And please keep in mind this was on a Friday night after a few, and a stressful week. Though it didn't turn out "perfect", I was still able to turn a few of their questions into rhetorical questions and non questions with a few quotes and stats. And yes, most were edited. Not all though.

    My advice, keep a positive image, with a positive attitude, and portray it positively. If you can, only produce Verifiable stats. or quotes that keeps it in a positive light. NOTHING negative! K.I.S.S. always.

    Look folks, I like to drink Dr Pepper, Budweiser, and iced tea. I like to play with my, and my neighbors kids, I like to have a nice yard and a clean house. I also like to feel safe in my own home. If owning a firearm is what it takes to keep me, my wife, and my children safe, then I will do so. Is there anything wrong with wanting to be, and or being safe in my own home? Isn't that what the Revolutionary War and the United States Constitution are all about.

    Freedoms per our Constitution

    Oh yeah, per one of or Founding Fathers No man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government - Thomas Jefferson
     
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