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I have decided I want a folder....

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by Mr. Chitlin, Feb 24, 2003.

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  1. Mr. Chitlin

    Mr. Chitlin Member

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    ...but I know absolutely nothing about them. I want one with the pocket clip, and I want good quality. $100 to $150 is no problem. I know that there are Spyderco, Benchmade, Cold Steel, etc, but know absolutely nothing about any of them. I like the looks of the Cold Steel Recon-1, 4 inch folder, and I am sure that they have a great reputation. From you guys that have "been there, done that, and have the T shirt to prove it" what would be a top quality knife to get, so I don't waste money and realize I should have gotten something else. Now, I am not really interested in going over $150 or so, and wouldn't mind keeping it under $100. There is just so much to look at, straight blade, serrated etc. I have been into guns for 30 + years, but now think it is time to look at the knife market. What I have now is a Buck Lite, a Buck 110 Folding Hunter, and a Schrade regular type folding 3 blade pocket knife.

    Thanks for any help.
     
  2. Jim March

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    I have descriptions on eight good folders and what MAKES 'em good at the bottom of this page:

    http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw/knifelaw.html

    Now, it's not too likely that your state allows concealed carry of 5" or 6" blades the way California does. But some of those are in the 4" class, and I remain convinced that the particular 4" Benchmade described there is the best 4" class (actually 3.95" for legal reasons) production fighting folder made today, based on grip ergonomics, lock design and blade steel (D2-M).

    Read the descriptions of ALL the knives, for max learnin' :).
     
  3. bad_dad_brad

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    For serious carry, the smaller Timberline Kelly Worden Tactical is one heck of a folder at a reasonable price. I picked one up at a local gun and knife show last year for $35. This is one very well thought out folder. I highly recommend it.

    The attached picture shows a combo blade. Mine is a straight edge. Personally I prefer a sharp straight edged blade for serious work over a combo.

    Great knife. Great value. And closed, you can also use it as a sap and/or pressure point persuader.

    I am looking for the larger cousin.
     
  4. gryphon

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    I have the Benchmade Stryker and love it. It's a combo blade, but looking back, I think that I would have been better off getting the full straight edge. Only because I do not do a lot of cutting through shrink wrap and such.
    My Stryker is the Tanto tip stainless. Check it out at the Benchmade site. Price on mine here in Ohio was $89.
     
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    Don't be afraid to look for a Microtech SOCOM...the older style (non-elite) in a manual only should be fairly easy to find in your price range...and it's one heck of a stout, quality folder.

    Mark
     
  6. Vorpal

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    Mr. C, the Microtech LCC is a very well made, stout ,and
    scary sharp liner lock,great design. I have both the M/A
    and the D/A, for the money you can't go wrong;)

    Larry
     
  7. Inspector Callahan

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    Get a Spyderco Native in S30V steel. :)
     
  8. hso

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    What do you want to use the knife for? If you'll describe your typical uses from day to day and week to week we can get into specifics about good pocket clip folders.
     
  9. Tamara

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    hso,

    Don't you know you're not supposed to ask logical questions? You're supposed to say "Buy a [insert favorite knife here]!". ;)


    Mr. Chitlin,

    Get a Glock! ;)
     
  10. 10-Ring

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    Tamara, you beat me! ;)

    I picked up a Kershaw Blackout not too long ago and I've carried it everyday since!
     
  11. hso

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    What you talkin' 'bout, Tamara? Don't you know Glock doesn't even make a pocket knife? And, the only "clip" you'll find associated with them doesn't go on the outside of a pocket.

    Like Emelda Marcos I have so many favorites that picking one depends upon the event I'm attending. Formal, semiformal, outing, redneck bar fight, garden party, etc. You can never underestimate the value of proper accesorizing! If you're schedule is varried during the day follow the tried and true double up approach. Something dressy with a rugged backup (like black stilletos with steel toes in the shoulder bag) always covers all the bases.
     
  12. Mr. Chitlin

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    hso,
    I just want it for a general purpose knife that will hold a great edge. I don't expect to get in a knife fight, but would like a high quality folder with a pocket clip. I work in the electrical field, so I have a regular 3 bladed Uncle Henry for general use, stripping wire, cutting boxes open, etc. The good one won't be used this way.

    Tamara,
    I carry a G27 or G19 most of the time. But there are some things that it just cant do. Ever tried to gut a deer or squirrel with the G27?:p

    I guess I might really need to study them a lot more. I am just ready to step up from a cheap knife to a good quality one.
     
  13. hso

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    Chitlin,

    Well, we can put the Rambozo Sentry Killing folders in the background and concentrate on "business casual" utility knives.

    I carry a Sebenza as my eveyday carry knife. It's more expensive than you're looking for, but until recently there was nothing close to it in tough use elegance for the money. As much as it pains me to say so, there are knives that are nearly as good at half the price (Now I've done it! My sebe will probably develop a rash and be dull and listless over this perceived lack of loyalty.)

    Do you want to go with the high tech unadorned handle type (Ti, G-10, C-fiber) or would you prefer some color or even natural materials like wood, bone, stag, pearl, coral, micarta (micarta's been around long enough to be considered a "natural material" by knife makers 'cause it's only "natural" to consider it for a handle:D )

    Size does matter! (not what ya'll think :eek: ) If you have a smaller hand like mine then some of these bohunkin big folders that are out there don't fit. By the same token, my small sebe doesn't fit Ren's hand (it ain't his hand his subconcious is focused on:rolleyes: ) so he has the bigger Sebenza. Tell me which of the knives you listed feel right in your hand and pocket.

    Blade shape is important also. From your knife selections it seems you're interested in clip or drop points. That give tons of options.

    Blade materials are a lesser consideration (don't ya'll start with me. this is an old tired argument and 440C that is properly heat treated will do just fine for 99% of pocket knife use:rolleyes: ) but it does matter if you prefer tool to rust resistant steel. If you are used to maintaining a tool steel knife there are tool steel production folders out there. There are plenty of other steels out there.

    Opening mechanism is another factor. Hole, disk, stud, assisted, switch, double action, nail nick. You've got to play with them to find out (switchs are a legal question so you need to find out if you want to find out).

    Let me know if this is of interest or let me know where you are and I'll let you know where/when the nearest knife show is.

    Mike
     
  14. brownie0486

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    For 150.00 or less get a MOD [ the model you like] or a M/T Socom or maybe the LCC if you can find one.

    The LCC is bullet proof and one rugged knife. Under extreme hard use I think it would last a lot longer than the MOD's or others with an aluminum handle.

    That said, I carry a MOD Trident presently. It'll do everything I need it to do defensively and holds an edge as well as the M/T's.

    I have trouble deciding which one to carry but the MOD trident won out for the last few months. I'll probably go back to the LCC again or perhaps my Spyderco Wegner model.

    Look at the Wegner by Spyderco. About your price range and a rugged knife by anyones standards.

    Brownie
     
  15. OF

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    This is not a question easily answered. Your price range includes some great knives but of widely varying designs.

    A rule of thumb is that Benchmade, Spyderco and Emerson are "can't lose" options in that price range. Stick with the axis lock or framelock Benchmades.

    Just to throw out an off-the-cuff recommendation, I think the Spyderco Calypso Jr. Micarta plain-edge (SP-C52BM) is just about the best all-around pocket knife made, and it's well within your price range. The catch is that it's discontinued...but you can still find them if you look hard enough. It's not as big or as scary-looking as the Recon.

    The Spyderco Military is another classic all-purpose knife. Other good all-purpose Spyderco knives: maybe a Chinook (SC-63GP)? Or how about a Terzuola Starmate (C55GPE)?

    More nasty can be had from Emerson with a Commander or CQC-7 or even a Benchmade 750 Pinnacle framelock.

    There are alot of cool knives in your price range. Go to www.bladeforums.com and poke around. You'll either get enlightened or confused depending on how much time you have to spend there. :) Also order free catalogs from Spyderco and Benchmade.

    - Gabe
     

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    So, bigger than a gent's folder, smaller than a flesh-eating tacticool knife, in the buck-to-buck-and-a-half price range...

    Hmmm...

    Benchmade makes some sweet tools in this area, from the 910 "Stryker" to the 690, with its swoopy blend of carbon-fiber, anodized titanium and pretty wood.
     
  17. Mr. Chitlin

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    WHEW!! I see that I have a LOT to learn. I guess my question was about like "I have $XXX. What gun should I get"!! I really can not answer many of the questions hso and others brought up. I guess I will have to hang around the forums a little, and see what all of my shooting friends are carrying. I haven't handled enough of them to really know for sure what I want or need.

    Thanks for all the replies. I think I am more confused now than when I started!! At least I now have a base of info to get started on.

    hso, I got your PM. I am just going to sit back for the time being and study a little more. Thanks.
     
  18. makdaddy03

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    Anything by Coldsteel gets my vote.:)
     
  19. Charles S

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    There is a wide range of styles in your price range. My favorite is the Spyderco Military. Here are some others Emerson Commander, CQC7, Benchmade Avalanche in CPM 440V and a Microtech LCC like Vorpal recomedned.

    [​IMG]

    Hope this helps.

    Charles
     
  20. makdaddy03

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    Charles,Nice knives you have there.
     
  21. Big Bad Wolf

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    Off the top of my head......

    (4 inch blades)
    Benchmade 710 M2 steel Axis retails @ $115-$130
    Benchmade SOFCK D2 steel axis retails @ $85-$100
    Spyderco Police VG-10 steel retails @ $80-$95

    (3.75 inch blades)
    Emerson Commander 154cm steel retails @ $130-$170
    Emerson Mach 1 154cm steel retails @ $90-$100
    Spyderco Endura AUS6 steel retails @ $30 -$50

    (3.5 inch blades)
    Kershaw Blackout 440V steel retails @ $55-$65
    Kershaw Boa 440V steel retails @ $85-$120
    Kershaw Avalanche 440V steel retails @ $85-$100
    Emerson CQC-7 154cm steel retails @ $85-$115
    Benchmade 551 Griptilian 440C Axis retails @ $60-$70


    All of these can be found on internet knife stores or on Ebay. Good Luck in your search! :)
     
  22. Charles S

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    makdaddy03:

    Thanks for the compliment. In addition to guns I really like knives.

    Charles
     
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    Check out the knife link on the Arkansas page in www.packing.org. Anything over 3,5 inches carried concealed is prohibited.

    RBH
     
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    Folks, you must really give the Timberline Kelly Worden Tactical a try. It is just about the best knife vis-a-vis folder value that I have found. And like I reported before, closed, it can be used as a sap or skin and bone pressure persuader as well.

    The design of this knife is impressive. It opens very smoothly, is liner locked, and can be easily handled open or closed one handed. Good stuff.

    I have the smaller version, I want (NEED) the bigger one.
     
  25. OF

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    Here's the knife that Brad is talking about (a new one to me):

    [​IMG]

    :cool:

    - Gabe
     
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