I Have the Viable Compromise Solution RE: AWB, Mags, 2013

[SharpsDressedMan]

I wish you "hardliners" would just go kick the crap out of any senators or congressmen that don't see it your way, so that we could re-instate the 2nd Amendment to mean "shall not be infringed", but since that probably isn't going to happen, then we are in a constant state of negotiation, or "compromise", with both sides having a "stand" that probably isn't going to be maintained by EITHER side. Get off the semantics, and either FIND common ground, or drag the other guy over to your ground (which I cannot seem to do with the extreme leftists that I come into contact with.....maybe y'all can do better!)

 

[mbt2001]

When has "compromise" worked? Also, look at the way it becomes a precedent for compromise in the future. Part of the reason that we are in this mess at all is all of the "compromises" that were done in the past.

 

[Prophet]

But, in all honesty, the younger people of today are not being groomed for self reliance, responsibilty, or self restraint, in comparison to generations past. As a whole, they live at home longer, rely on their parents longer, and social interdependence is lost to self-absorbtion on the computer or Iphone.

I agree. The reason is my generation is being continually relieved of those responsibilities by your generation. If you increase the age at which your child continues to receive health benefits from your insurance to the age of 21, sonny is going to be less inclined to leave until he is 21. If you increase the age at which he is actually able to practically defend himself and his family as he gets married, goes to work, runs errands and lives in his own home to the age of 21, sonny is going to be less inclined to leave until he is 21. So on, so forth.

Furthermore, anyone I know who is my age and currently owns a firearm does not fit the description you gave above. They all received their firearm as a rite of responsibility, as did I. Anyone I know who does fit your above description, however, does not own a firearm and has no interest in owning one. Your "compromise" will only serve to further disenfranchise those of us who so desperately wish to fulfill those adult responsibilities you listed above and drag out our inability to do so. It's bad enough that the economy wants nothing to do with us.

EDIT: Zespectre beat me to it.

And your solution to this is to "baby" them more? If you want to see someone handle responsibility then GIVE THEM RESPONSIBILITY. Then and only then will you see the wheat separate from the chaff and then we're going to have some clear indicators as to who can be trusted as a citizen.

 

[easyg]

Get off the semantics, and either FIND common ground,

There is no common ground.

We're not talking semantics.
The truth is that there are some in our government who want the citizens of this nation disarmed.

TOTALLY DISARMED.

But they aren't fools...they know that they can't disarm us all at once.
So they do it slowly, one step at a time, one piece of legislation at a time.
Bit by bit they take away our Constitutional Right to bear arms.

Every "compromise" we make just gets them one step closer to their goal....
TOTAL DISARMAMENT of the citizens of this nation.

I will not willingly make any compromise.

 

[gdcpony]

So those Marines carrying M-4's and are under 21 are not allowed to own an AR-15? Makes absolutely no sense. Would the current owners have to "sell" their rifles to over 21 friends just to hold them for them?

 

[Justin]

Can we pretty, pretty please with sugar and strawberries on top stop with all the damnable loser talk around here?

For crying out loud, the forces of anti-gun bigotry haven't even brought a bill to the floor for discussion yet, and some of you are busy rolling over and peeing on yourselves in an act of submission.

Perhaps, instead of wasting all of our time starting threads like this, you could go write/fax/email/show up in person at your elected representatives' offices and voice your disagreement with further laws restricting cosmetically scary guns or useless bans on magazines.

After all, there are plenty of threads here on THR that have given you the ammunition to win any of those debates and make your case clearly and rationally. For crying out loud, just yesterday I reduced one of Dianne Degette's aids to stammering like a brain-damaged idiot with information that is freely available on the web. It's really not that hard.

If you can't at least do that, then the gun culture doesn't need you. Go collect beanie babies or Pokemon instead.