I just got a lecture this morning....

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I think you did the polite and respectful thing by standing there and listening. I seldom have the patience for such a thing myself, but you did the civil thing to do.

It's ironic that the guard works there, but doesn't agree with the person buying the products there. I guess sometimes people take jobs because they need the money.

Some ideas for writing the letter:

Of course, keep the tone of the letter very respectful. Avoid statements like "I'll never shop at your store again!" unles you really intend to follow through on them. A more persuasive statement would be "I appreciate your great deals on ammunition and would like to continue buying it at Wal-Mart; Being lectured by an opinionated greeter is neither good for my shopping experience, nor for your business." I'm sure they'll agree with you.

Sending multiple copies to multiple steps in the chain of command is also a good idea. Not sure how the store management is structured, but it might be good to send a letter to whoever is in charge of the ammo sales at that local store-- let them know that there toes are being stepped on as well, since they are a voice inside the company that potentially stands even more to lose from this behaviour than you the customer. It will only cost a little extra in postage, and it might create some dialog about the subject at hand. In addition to your particular greeter being redirected on this topic, I wouldn't be at all surprised if something was added to the greeter training program on the subject.

Be sure to point out that you've shared your experience with the online gun community, and that dozens/hundreds/thousands of people have now read your story. The reason for pointing this out is not to be coercive in any way, but to remind them that such is the way of this age of the world. Then end that paragraph by saying "I look forward to sharing your response with the online community as well". This is a good statement, because it implies not only that you expect a response, but that they wil be accountable for the response to a good number of their sporting goods department's customers.
 
You did better than I did in a similar situation with a Walmart cashier. The last time I bought any ammunition from there was three months ago, when I was checking out at the sporting goods counter, I asked the guy, real thin, around 55-ish in age with shoulder length grey hair and a matching beard, for two boxes of WWB 9mm. My friend behind me asked for the same in .45 ACP.

The guy got our ammo for us then as ringing up our sales, continued on a rant about how if we must insist on participating in "deadly" activities that we might want to stock up because he had just heard that the government was going to end the sale of handguns and handgun ammunition in the next year or so because the Mexican president doesn't want to deal with such a violent nation when they start construction of the international superhighway that would run from Panama to Ontario Canada with a stop over at Fort Knox because that was where our government would ship our gold from to Mexico City for the Mexican government to guard since we were falling apart as a society.

I was quite caught off guard, once I recovered I told him him my opinion and left. Seeing as how that night my opinion was quite the opposite of the high road I'll not post it, but it felt good.

Yep, that's the last time I bought ammo there. In fact, I've only made two really small purchases at Walmart since then. The best way to deal with it is to get the district manager's number and make sure that you contact that person first. They tend to be the ones who care the most about how their stores are performing.
 
WOO18 - "I just got a lecture this morning...."


Where??????????????? Yeah, I know it was a Walmart, but Where?

L.W.
 
She probably felt a whole heap better that someone had the respect to listen to her.
 
I had a real surprise at our local Wallyworld last month. I'm kinda old and crippled and I just went in the nearest door. To my surprise, the management has partitioned the entrance area so there is a designated 'enter' and 'exit' door and I had committed the unpardonable sin of entering the exit.
Here's where the surprise came: As I walked toward the check-out counters I felt a hand grab my arm from behind. It's been fifty years or so since I had any hand-to-hand training but as soon as I felt that hand I spun, grabbed and ducked under it, bringing the connected arm up in a hammerlock. I immediately backed off because the guy was only slightly younger than me and a whole lot more surprised. I said something about being sorry but that he shouldn't have touched me like he did. He wasn't hurt - except for his pride, I guess. Anyway, I went on into the store and nothing came of the incident. Fortunately, the partition kept other people from seeing what I had done or the police would probably have been involved.
In all the time I spent in the military I never had to use that training but I guess it's still there, under all the fat and grey hair. Surprise, surprise.
 
Tell them that if she wants to complain about Wallmart selling ammo she should do it to her boss or to corporate and not be preaching to the customers. What if you were there buying condoms or feminine products for your significant other, what is she going to do? preach to you about birth control or stds? It's none of her business what anyone buys and she should keep her opinions to herself.

I don't stop for anything at the door, ppl or alarms. I just smile and wave or play deaf. I know if I shoplifted something or not(btw of course NOT) and if the checker didn't take off a security tag or deactivate something then that's not my problem. Have a nice day.
 
This is insane...not only should you have filed a complaint in front of her, but also suggested she reread her *greeter* mannual..I am sure there is nothing in it about harrassing a customer regardless what the purchase, be it ammo or a personal vibrator...*grin*
 
Respect your elders. All fine and well.

Should that happen again, politely interrupt their spiel and tell them, "Guns and ammunition are not bad. But I understand that some people are."
Thank them for their concern, wish them a good day and move on.

Or not.
 
Sending multiple copies to multiple steps in the chain of command is also a good idea.
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This is good advice. If you really want to be sure it's acted on, be sure to put in the "cc:" line at the bottom of the letter, and list the different levels of the company you're going to send the letter to.

That will motivate the lower-level managers and offices to take action, as they will expect the upper level(s) to inquire about the matter, and will want to have a good answer when asked how they've resolved the issue.
 
good point... it was an old lady. Gotta take what they say with a grain of salt...

Also good to note, she's probably a voter. Most old people are. They are also the largest banana eating group in America.
 
Maybe it's just my bleeding heart but I'm not going to get an elderly woman in one of the few jobs offered to someone her age fired or disciplined.

A five-minute spiel (probably shorter) that I could have walked out on at any time really isn't worth caring about.
 
Last time I purchased ammo at Wally World, at the checkout the women asks "you a cop?" I said "nope" and gave her a big mind-your-own-business-sh*&-eating grin, and walked out. Wally worlds in MA seem to have stopped selling ammo recently, at least the Wally world close to me stopped selling ammo.
 
why are so many gunners BULLIED

This is bullying.
It's not a matter of simply leaving, or of laughing, especially not listening to her tirade for others to hear the foul propoganda.

In addition to writing a letter to the store , if you feel thats a good course, be proactive.

Turn the tables on her so she feels a little more uncomfortable for acting in such a manner as you. Next time it might be a fence sitter, or someone new to shooting who could be convinced up giving up the new interest or hobby without much resistance.

Be prepared with knowledge to slam her on the principles of a free society, find out what she believes in and directly tie the right to bear arms into the protection of those freedoms. Ask her if she trusts the government for all eternity, ask if she thinks the world will always be the safe warm fuzzy place it is now, ask if the special response cops that hang out at her house 24 hours a day are as alert and hard core as the security at WALMART:barf:

I get so sick of hearing THR's getting pushed around, by gangsters laughing at their workout garages from the street forcing them indoors for everything living a fearful life to
NUMB BRAINED WALMART ELITIST BRAINWASHED BAG CHECKERS
:fire:

ST

ps - for what its worth I just bought a load of .223 and some cleaning supplies at Mall Wart last night, no questions, no ID, no nothin....but then again the employees are a distillation of the community. Getting more expensive every day. . . . :(
 
First, I wouldn't have listened to 5 minutes of that BS. Second this sounds like a golden opportunity to convert someone if you have time. You might ask how she arrived at her conclusion that shooting is "very bad" then explain how it isn't. In any case I would have at least politely told her that she is wrong and I enjoy shooting and I think she is misinformed.
 
Those of you bragging about how you storm out of the store without letting them check your bags - why do you shop there if you won't obey their rules? You are violating their property rights. If you know they want to search your bag before you purchase the item, then you have tacitly agreed to the search as a condition of the purchase. Now, legally, I don't imagine they can prove that you knew, but don't pretend to be defending your rights, when you've waived your rights and are breaking an agreement.
 
a guard?

they are guards?
never would have guessed, but hey Walmart cheapest possible employee makes sense.
they are pretty nice up here and I have the same respect for authority and even elders.
but that is pretty lame she should take he soap box elsewhere.
and that should be against policy, can't be cool with walmart to get that kind of press.
they already have all the don't buy Chinese crap against them "not a racial slur".
their prices are not that great up here on ammo, also I thought they lost the ability to sell ammo because of the thing with the school kids.
what ever happened with that?
 
Those of you bragging about how you storm out of the store without letting them check your bags - why do you shop there if you won't obey their rules? You are violating their property rights. If you know they want to search your bag before you purchase the item, then you have tacitly agreed to the search as a condition of the purchase. Now, legally, I don't imagine they can prove that you knew, but don't pretend to be defending your rights, when you've waived your rights and are breaking an agreement.
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Wal-Mart and I have no such agreement. If they have a set of rules that I violate, they are welcome to banish me.
 
Those of you bragging about how you storm out of the store without letting them check your bags - why do you shop there if you won't obey their rules? You are violating their property rights. If you know they want to search your bag before you purchase the item, then you have tacitly agreed to the search as a condition of the purchase. Now, legally, I don't imagine they can prove that you knew, but don't pretend to be defending your rights, when you've waived your rights and are breaking an agreement.
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actaully wal-mart dosen't have many rights at all anymore. especially like they used too, even dealing with folks that actually do wrong. they just recently re impliminted the loss prevention guys and gals which for a year or two had fallen by the way side. READ 11M i used to work there, my step dad and my aunt are in management, there is no such : agreement" and you are not breaking there "rules", no where does it say in the company modules that they are to check rescipts. and it definetly never says anything about haggling customers and trying to deter them from buying from the store. i wish the home office got ahold of this case it would be funny to see how bad that store would be hurt. i know all kinds of dirty little secrets about wal-mart, some what of a SME if i should say so myself. don't accuse us we have done nothing wrong, they are the ones that are not following company directives and guidlines not us.
 
Smurfslayer, your legal links seem to say that the law requires probable cause. Is walking out on the receipt-checker probable cause?


possum, you seem to be confused. I certainly am not defending this loud-mouthed Wal-Mart employee in her anti-gun lectures. Also, I spoke of a tacit agreement. An unspoken one. If you know that your local Wal-Mart will check your reciept or bag, yet you continue to enter their property and buy their items, then you have agreed to future searches/receipt-checks.
 
If you were fat and had ice cream and chocolate syrup in the bag would you have stood there and listened to a speech on nutrition ?

Had diapers and listened to one on the overpopulation of the earth ?

I would have asked her for her complete name and written it down and then informed her I WOULD be speaking to the headquarters on her treatment of a paying customer and if I had to stand in front of the store entrance with a sign informing the shooting public about the incident so they can take their business elsewhere .
 
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