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I just heard the scariest story of my life

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by nsf003, Sep 30, 2003.

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  1. nsf003

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    My mom just got off the phone with my grandmother. She had an interesting story to tell. Long story ahead, but very interesting. Makes you re-evaluate your home security strategy. Leaving your doors unlocked for a few minutes when you go outside could let an assailant in who will hide and attack you later.

    My aunt was working on a vacuum cleaner, putting it together. SHe went to fill it with water and came back and found that the wheels were missing. They were in the middle of the hall a second before. SHe thought nothing of it. A few days later, while working in the yard, her neighbor told her(whom she never talks to) that she had a peeping tom. He said that he heard the tom at night, he sits at the end of her pool and watches her. Nobody saw him, but everyone heard. She went to the place where the neighbor heard the tom and sure enough the grass was all pushed down and there was some empty beer cans there. She had found beer cans there before but thought nothing of it. She called her daughter and told her. Her daughter(nicole) asked about calling the police, but my aunt didn't. Nicole had to call the cops. They recognized the threat and told her that if she called, units would respond immediately.

    Stick with me, my story gets better.

    Her son in law Aaron came over to her house, heard her story, and figured out that he had gotten in the house. The tom has been sneaking in a garage window(doesn't lock), through the door between house and garage(doesn't lock) and into her house. The verdict was that he was sleeping in her son's room at night(empty room, son moved out), and waking up/leaving before she got up.:what: He memorized her schedule and knew that she went to church on sundays. When she had the vacuum cleaner incident, she didn't go to church and must have suprised him, he probably slept late. Didn't call the police then.

    Stick with me, my story gets even better.

    Aaron came over again and nailed the garage window shut. He put sticks in some other windows to lock them. He did an all around home security check. The next night, she heard a thump thumping on the window downstairs. Instead of calling the cops, she just layed there hoping it would go away.:what: The next morning, she found that the tom had pried the window open about an inch, nails and all. He was pounding on it for at least 3-5 minutes, noisily too. The next night, her son in law and son waited in the garage, but the tom didn't come. He must have seen their cars in the driveway.

    I am just dreading the news, waiting for her to turn up dead. My mom figures its only a matter of time.

    I taught her how to shoot my family's Ruger P94 9mm and my Taurus 357. I have suggested to her to buy a firearm many times. I don't know what to do.

    She has no common sense. She told my grandma(who is an absolute wreck by the way) that she really wants to sneak down sometime and shine a flashlight in the toms face, to see who it is.:what:

    nsf003
     
  2. DorGunR

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    she really wants to sneak down sometime and shine a flashlight in the toms face, to see who it is.
    She can always find out who it is after she puts a few rounds thru him.:mad:
     
  3. P95Carry

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    Not a good state of affairs at all ..... no way to know if this idiot is armed or not ... still could be dangerous tho.

    Sure sounds like it needs looked into further, unless he is scared away for good ... that is unlikely as these types tend to be obsessional, as well as probably nutty.

    A piece on hand would be very wise ... if only she would take advice ... but then also, a new firearms owner would need some tuition .... nothing bothers me more than the total novice .... they can finish up shooting themselves or an innocent party.

    I'd like to think this can get resolved -- any security lights outside .. motion detector types? That could be useful.

    Keep us up to date ...
     
  4. Bigjake

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    south centeral PA huh??.... hmm, a little closer and i would VOLUNTEER to get a bunch of good ol boys to wait up in that garage with me some night and personaly kick the guys ???. thats really really scarey. how can she be such a... sheep? wait any maybe it will go away? she has some sick individual who apparently has free reign of the house, time to do something about it..
     
  5. Black92LX

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    i don't think he will hurt her. he would have done it by now. but i think i would move. what are people thinking these days??
     
  6. BHPshooter

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    Yesterday, my parents gave me a lot of crap because I keep (or kept, I guess) my gun and a mag nearby (bad neighbors). I was wearing it on my hip, so I put the mag in. Well, my Dad flipped out, took my gun, and later my parents and I had a "talk."

    There was a lot of the socially accepted liberal propaganda floating about through the entire conversation, among which were that "the gun could go off," and "ARE YOU INSANE?!?" But this is the one that really pissed me off: "Nothing good can come from having a gun and ammo nearby."

    Yeah, that's right. I'm thinking of having them read the original post. :mad: Think it'll do any good? I have hope, but am not sure.

    Anyway, for those who care, they said that IF they give my gun back, they're gonna make me lock both gun and ammo up, in separate locations. Thus effectively neutering the ability to use it for its intended purpose. :banghead:

    Wes, the parentally-labeled radical. :fire:
     
  7. Standing Wolf

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    As long as it's a muzzle flash...
     
  8. Balog

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    It's a sad fact of life that unless someone is violently assaulted or raped [or see it happen to someone close to them], they often believe it "can't happen to them." And they give high-school and college kids a tough time about doing foolish things because they feel "invincible.":eek: :banghead:
     
  9. P95Carry

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    Wes ..... true indeed . gun and ammo separately locked .... might as well be 1,000 miles away!:rolleyes: :(

    We all live with risk, every day .. but for most of us that risk is minimal, fortunately. However, out of apparant stability, sanity and calm, can come the unexpected ....... it is that for which most of us bear arms. The ability to protect self .... as no-one else can.

    I do wonder if your Dad consideras the scenario where you just maybe were under threat and injured or killed ... all because you had no equalizer.

    It sounds like you are yet young but ... if responsible enough to own and know how to use a weapon then ...... there should be no prob with loaded carry or possession.
    ''Nothing good''??? Sorry, this I place in same category as the ''get guns of the streets'' mindset ......... it suggests that the mere presence and ownership carries some dastardly consequence ......

    Oh my ...... sympathy dude, sympathy .......
     
  10. nsf003

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    Thats my kind of flashlight.

    I taught her to shoot and she has had some instruction at the range, but i don't know if she has enough common sense to use a gun properly.

    Couldn't hurt, my mom told me that she doesn't really like guns but would really want one in this situation. Told me she would have loaded in her nightgown.

    Thats what i would really like to do, but be less suspicious than the son and son in law.

    I keep everyone updated on new events as they occur. Just hope you don't end up reading about her in the paper.

    nsf003
     
  11. PawDaddy

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    I think that maybe the aunt's children should stay with their mother or INSIST that she come and stay with them.

    Also, why not have the daughter drop off her brother or husband so that there will be no cars in the drive. They could slip in and grab the guy the next time he comes around. It sounds like he does this quite often, so it shouldn't take but a few nights to catch him.

    Someone said that he probably would have already done something if he was intending on harming her, but you never can tell. He may have big plans for her. Right now it may be just a turn on to be able to sneak around, but you don't know when that will become boring to him. There are some weird, sick people roaming around.
     
  12. DigMe

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    Wes,

    Sounds like it's time to get a job and a place of your own, eh?

    brad cook
     
  13. Daedalus

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    I hope I read "Intruder Shot Dead by Local Woman"
     
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    Thefumegator, it is their house and as such they have the right to make the rules. Too bad their own rules make them less safe.

    DigMe has the right idea. (aside from being able to store your guns as you see fit, its also nice to have your own place when it comes to the ladies ;) )
     
  15. BHPshooter

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    Job... check!

    Place of my own -- I think (and hope) it will be coming up soon. Things were going so good since I moved back from college, and now are going downhill again. You have no idea how much I would love to move out.

    I guess before I do I'll have to research the law and coax my Dad into writing up a bill of sale... for MY gun, because I'm not moving somewhere without a gun. He's way paranoid, and treats me like a 3-year-old. "If you do anything with that, it's in my name, so it's MY BUTT!" he says. Since I'm 19, he bought it in my behalf, and I believe that in Utah I can have it at 18, just can't buy it. Now I just have to find the actual law to back it up, and have he and I sign a bill of sale, and it would be mine, right?

    What pisses me off so bad is that my younger brother, who has more guns than I do, never gets so much as a question or a second look. But me, who happens to be more into pistols, I'm the Damien child. We all know that pistols are evil, right? Or at least my parents do. :banghead: In the last week, I have really started to question how "pro-gun" they really are. I kid you not, during the "lecture," just about every statement they made was right out of the anti-gun propaganda book.

    During said "talk," my Dad also started into how immature I was because I was thinking for myself rather than blindly following rules. "Following rules and laws is a sign of maturity." So Gen. Washington and Thomas Jefferson must've been pretty damn immature. :cuss:

    Sorry, I'm ranting. :fire:

    Wes
     
  16. Quartus

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    'Fumegator, Zundy is right - it's their house. I think you'd have done better to be a little less conspicuous with your weapon. You might still have the ammo and gun together. Be chill, lay low, and hope it blows over. Then be more careful - if there's a next time. I can relate - I found coming home after 4 years in the Army didn't work out. Somehow after being a sergeant I didn't take well to being treated like a child. Be prepared to write off the pistol for now, but don't burn your bridges.


    Not a good plan. Wackos often 'work up' to a killing, pushing and pushing a little at a time to see what resistance there is. The safe route is to assume she's in serious danger.



    But is that "no common sense" condition a family trait, nsf? They parked IN THE DRIVEWAY to wait for him???? :what:


    Hmmm. Lessee - letting intruders bang on the window hoping it will go away... parking in the driveway to surprise a peeper..... trying to wrestle a strange dog off the pool cover....


    I don't mean to be insulting to your family, my young friend, but where did YOU come from?


    ;)


    (most of my family is no better, BTW. :) )
     
  17. son of a gun

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    why doesn't she just put a sign in the window telling the vagrant that the gig is up. Any one that callous to sneak in a house must have some serious psychological problems. I can't believe the family members would allow her to remain there with this situation.
     
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    nsf003 --

    Don't suggest she should have a gun.

    If she's not smart enough to call the cops, if she's not smart enough to Do Something when someone is pounding on a window breaking into her house, if she's not smart enough to know that shining a flashlight in the guy's face would be a pretty stupid thing to do, then she's simply not smart enough to use a gun. She honestly would get it taken away and used against her.

    Her kids could and maybe should stake out the place, only without leaving a buncha cars in the driveway this time (d'oh!). That might help, maybe.

    If she doesn't have any common sense, and isn't inclined to take advice, there really isn't much you can do but hope it all works out in the end. :(

    pax

    What drives people crazy is trying to live outside reality. Reality is terrible. It can kill you. Given time, it certainly will kill you. The reality is pain ... But it's the lies, the evasions of reality, that drive you crazy. – Ursula K. LeGuin
     
  20. twoblink

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    If you are going to use a flashlight to shine it on the tom..

    m3lighta.jpg

    Might I suggest a 9mm to go with it?

    Scary story..

    My friend had quite a few breakin's, so many so that he was thinking of not going on vacation as every time he did, his house got broken into..

    So I shot up a few siloutte targets for him to hang on the front door, the back door, and the garage..

    First time in 6 years, no theft :D

    I'd highly recommend you do the same, as a gift.. If guns are not welcome in the house, they surely wouldn't mind a few target-men riddled with holes right?

    It works MUCH better than "do not disturb"..
    :p

    But I have to say, scary story..
     
  21. 4v50 Gary

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    If he's thumping away for 3-5 minutes to get in, he probably feels that he has a right to be in his "home." Trespasser.
     
  22. son of a gun

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    She needs a dog even one of those 10 pound little yappy dogs would scare him away hopefully.
     
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    She needs a dog alright...

    A freaking Charter Arms Bulldog...
     
  24. J.J.

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    Sadly I get a mental picture of a squatter, "I have lived here for 6 months it’s now my property YOU LEAVE..."

    All I can think is you can lead a horse to water but not make it drink.
     
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    Thefumegator

    Your sig line has "Molon Labe" in it. Sounds like Mom and Dad did just that. Watch what you wish for.

    Remember, A gun in the hand is worth two in separate locked cabinets.
     
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