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I need help...please discourage me from getting a 338-378...

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by saturno_v, Mar 6, 2012.

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  1. saturno_v

    saturno_v Member

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    I'm not joking about the help part...seriously....lately I'm having the itch (increasing by the day) to get a Mar V chambered for this fantastic cartridge....

    It is totally irrational I know.....I'm not interested in reloading (at this point some of you already are laughing and rightly so) but I'm not excluding that I may become if I did own one of these rifle...


    I'm fascinated by this incredible chambering...it is like a Ferrari of the ammunition.....extremely capable and agile.....you get almost the same long range performance if not better (in terms of trajectory and range) of a 50 BMG without the weight and size.....with a regular shouldered rifle....

    What I would do if I get one?? Probably firing off few rounds at year impressing folks at the range with the boom and having fun at non competitive long rage target shooting (read firing at stuff)......dreaming of a nice hike overseeing a nice flat piece of desertic terrain under the sun firing off bullets at the blue yonder....

    Mostly it would stay in the safe, being just happy to own one knowing the rifle potential (much higher than mine)

    I thought that owning a 338 Win Mag would cure the itch (getting somehow not too distant performance at a fraction of the price) but is coming back with a vengeance..launching a 300 grain bullet at about 3000 fps has some magic for me :D

    All of this is sufficient to justify shelling out well north of $1000 for the rifle, excluding the appropriate glass?? What about $120 a box for the ammo (with no reloading)??

    Please talk me away from it......part of the problem is that I have a sizeable and growing cash stash of firearm purchase fodder ready to deploy but I do not want to do anything too foolish....
     
  2. InfamousLegend

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    I probably won't help any, but if you have the available cash and you have an itch for an uncommon weapon then go for it. But only if you have the extra cash flow. The way I see it everyone needs atleast one uncommon rifle caliber to round out their collection.
     
  3. gbran

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    Sounds perfectly logical to me.
     
  4. DM~

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    WHY would i do that??? If you want to torture yourself, i'm fine with that.

    Personally, i wouldn't want one at any price...

    DM
     
  5. Vern Humphrey

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    I suggest you locate a .338-.378, buy a 20-round box of ammo, and fire all twenty rounds off the bench at one sitting.

    If that doesn't cure you, nothing will.
     
  6. a-sheepdog

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    That is quite a round for most anything on the continent if you are a hunter. Not being a reloader, you are going to have to pay dearly for ammo, which you are already aware of.The rifle will be heavy and extremely loud with a brake. If you already have a 338 win mag, whats the use in getting that particular round? A 338 win mag is nothing to sneeze at, a versatile round with several different bullet weights and choices and about half the cost of the 338-378. Thats just my take on it, but I am biased as I own a couple of 338 win mags. If I moved up, a 416 would be my next caliber choice. Once again, depends on what the purpose is for the rifle.
     
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  7. TexasPatriot.308

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    like Vern said, try this, it'll probably spend the rest of your life in your safe. other more sensible calibers are out there.
     
  8. sage5907

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    For some people the fun of owning something is the buying process, but once the planning and purchase is over the object of interest is relegated to a spot in the corner to gather dust. It may be my heritage but I plan every purchase far in advance and use every item for years into the future. I haven't made many mistakes in my life but I remember every one like it was yesterday. If I had the money to buy a 338/378 I would also spend the money to go to Kodiak Island on a guided hunt with all the frills and bring home a big brown bear. That bear hunt would be far more important than the rifle. BW
     
  9. tactikel

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    If you are not going to handload DON'T do it :) Get a .338 win mag. OTOH if you might consider handloading, DO IT! And post your experiences!
     
  10. rcmodel

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    O.K., I'll try.
    For a test run, go to any softball field this summer and let the catcher from the girls softball team hit you in the shoulder with a softball bat as hard as she can.
    Now let her do it again & again without you flinching as she winds up.

    O.K. Say you pass that test?

    Now, give her $500 for a new bat, after you let her hit you a couple thousand times (new barrel every couple thousand rounds) without flinching and making her miss your shoulder (you flinching & you missing the target).

    It wouldn't impress me in the slightest. I shot them in competition many years ago.

    It would pizz me off if I had paid good money to use the range to shoot groups & test handloads, and some fool was blowing me off the bench next door with a .338-.378 Magnum he couldn't hit the target berm with.

    But that's just me.

    rc
     
  11. sage5907

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    "It would pizz me off if I had paid good money to use the range to shoot groups & test handloads, and some fool was blowing me off the bench next door with a .338-.378 Magnum he couldn't hit the target berm with."

    Hey rcmodel, I also like a quality trip to the range and thats why I go to the range just after daylight. Most shooters are too lazy to get up early so there aren't many problems. I do remember one guy who was apparently shooting a highly prized rifle. I was shooting a black powder rifle and he was about 20 feet downwind. He complained that smoke from my shooting was getting on his rifle. I only saw him that one time. BW
     
  12. xxxleafybugxxx

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    Why go little?
    Get the .338 Lapua
     
  13. Liberty1776

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    If you need it, you need it. I live in Minnesota but I've had a .375 H&H and two .458 Winchester Mags... Sometimes you just have to scratch that itch...
     
  14. Kachok

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    The huge 338s lack any form of practical use for 99.9% of hunters so that leaves long range shooting, if you want to punch paper at 1,000yds skip all the hard kickers and get a 6.5-284 or 7mmWMS they are much more available well known for being world record accurate, and MUCH less expensive to shoot. If you want to go further then that skip all small calibers, and the 338s and get the 408 Cytech, everything else seems like a toy compared to .940 BC!! If you are just in love with the round, and want one no matter what, find someone who can reload your brass, $120 a box is STUPID HIGH, heck I'll reload them for half that price :D
     
  15. TexasPatriot.308

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    I got a friend that brags about his 7mm ultra mag, somehow, always manages to miss his deer. pulled it !! scope must be off....etc. I have seen him shoot, he is usually flinching before the gun goes off....but he just had to have it let everyone know he got one. I stick to my .308s and 7mm-08s..all I need. and my trusty .22-250. I hit my targets.
     
  16. Biggerhammer

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    What's not to like about it, it's....

    Big
    Flat shooting
    Loud
    Has heavy recoil
    Burns powder by the UPS Truck full

    It's perfect! Buy it, shoot it and enjoy it.
     
  17. saturno_v

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    The 338 Lapua is actually less powerful than the 338-378.....114 gr. H2O case capacity for the Lapua vs. 137 gr. H2O case capacity for the 338-378.
     
  18. jerkface11

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    Didn't you do the same thread a couple years ago ?
     
  19. saturno_v

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    Of course I would try to hit the target....with practice.....:D
     
  20. saturno_v

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    Not exactly...3 years ago I was undecided between the 338-378 and the 338 Win Mag and I did end up getting the Win Mag (a Weatherby Vanguard).

    But the itch for the big 338-378 is back......
     
  21. GooseGestapo

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    Get a .338RemUltMag.
    It gets 97-98% of the ballistics of the .338-378wby with only 40% of the expense. You can use the same bullets and probably the same powder to reload both the .338winmag and RUM, however, you won't need both..... (or the .338/378wby.

    Personnaly, I'd recommend you start reloading for the .338winmag. It'll do 100% of what you'll use the .338/378 for but for less money.
    The cost of reloading the .30/378 won't be but perhaps 3-5cent per round more than the .338winmag, once you aquire the brass. It's the brass for the .338/378 that you're paying ~$3.00 each for... But, these cases can be reloaded ~15 times, just like the .338winmag......

    I bought a .300RUM from somewhat the same "itch". It was "cheap" ~$250.00 for a Savage M110. I bought some ammo deeply discounted at a Walmart ($8.50/20rds 180gr Nosler Partitions in Rem. factory) and one box of Remington w/200gr Swift A-frames came with gun. And, I bought a set of dies (Lee- $25.00, and 100nup cases for $48.00 (2005...). I also bought 16lbs of WC860 surplus powder for $50. The .300RUM uses 105.0gr with a 180gr bullet..... And bought 500 of those for $48.00).
    I'm still reloading and shooting that 500 bullets and have most of the 16lbs of powder though I'm also feeding it to a .257wby.
    Hence, you MUST reload if you're going to shoot that behemouth... But you WILL enjoy it if you get it. I enjoy "shooting" the .300, but "hunt" with the .257wby and "others". Everytime I've shot a deer with the .300RUM, it cuts my forehead from the recoil..... Hence, it only goes where I "KNOW" I'll need to shoot over 300yds....

    But it WILL kick worse (the .338-378wby) than most anything you could buy in a shoulder fired rifle.... more than anything but a .378wby or a .460wby. There is a reason they come with a muzzle break...
     
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    Nothing in the post about hunting or justifing the ballistics for what they are other than "firing at stuff" and "firing off bullets at the blue yonder" . There are so many things pointing to "no".


    ammo availabilty and cost are big factors


    So why not go with the 50 BMG. Nothing screams "look at me" better at a local range.

    red flag when cost is brought up
     
  23. mdauben

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    You obviously know all the draw-backs of this cartridge yet you still want to buy one, so...


    GO BUY IT!!! :D


    If you have both the money and intestinal fortitude for a gun in this chambering, there is no reason not to buy one just becase you will never have any real, practical use for it. I've got a couple of guns (not so extreme as your choice, perhaps) that I have not use for, other than the fun of making them go BANG!!! at the range.
     
  24. saturno_v

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    You guys are doing a great job.....tortured by doubts.....on different note, I was thinking in the meantime about installing a brake on my 338 Win Mag....Weatherby would do the job for $160 (including a nice screw-in cap if you want to take the brake off)......should I do it?? The decrease in recoil is noticeable?? Any effect on accuracy???
     
  25. LeonCarr

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    Heck you don't have to shoot one, just go buy a box of Weatherby Factory Ammo and the sticker shock/120 bucks to shell out should keep you from buying the rifle :).

    Also, by the time you get proficient shooting it the barrel will be shot out. A barrel chambered for one of the ubermagnums has a useful accuracy life of around 1000-1500 rounds before the throat is worn out and needs set back and rechambering or rebarreling.

    I would pass on it.

    Just my .02,
    LeonCarr
     
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