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I Replaced My Sig 239

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Plan2Live, Jul 7, 2019.

  1. Plan2Live

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    I owned and carried a Sig 239 for around 6 years. I loved that pistol but so did my oldest son. When he graduated college last year with an engineering degree, I let him have it as a graduation present. My intention was to go buy a new one for me to replace the one I gave him. That’s when I discovered Sig had dropped the 239 from their lineup, so service work, spare parts, magazines, etc. were not going to be easy to come by going forward. So I set about finding a replacement carry gun. I prefer DA/SA, hammer fired guns for carry so the field of candidates was limited. I kept searching and kept coming back to the same gun, the 225A-1. For one reason or another I never got around to making the buy. Recently I started looking again in earnest and discovered that Sig is only showing one 225 model on their website, the Nitron. Not so long ago they showed 4 models, Nitron, Bi-Tone, Classic and Threaded Barrel. I checked various retailers and could only find the Nitron in inventory. This makes me think Sig is phasing out the 225 so l called around and found one on the shelf at a Sportsman’s Warehouse in Anderson, SC. I drove over and celebrated the 4th of July with a new pistol purchase.

    Why did I pick the 225? As I said, I prefer DA/SA, especially in a carry gun. I prefer a full three finger grip and the 225 delivers that. After carrying the 239 for so long I am familiar with the controls. I doubt I will ever encounter John Wick or a rouge Spetznaz wet team looking for me so I am comfortable with 8+1 and a spare mag, besides, the double stack Sigs don’t fit my hand all that well. As for the DA/SA transition objections, If I shoot you once I am probably going to shoot you twice so if my second shot goes of a millisecond sooner than I anticipated it’s still going to be sufficiently on target.

    Straight out of the box, the pistol was bone dry. I took off the slide, applied a little oil and a touch of grease and headed to the range. The gun performed just as I anticipated, feeding Federal FMJs, Fiocchi FMJs and Hornady Critical Duty with zero problems. The DA pull is a bit stiffer than I remember my 239 being but the 239 had several thousand rounds through it. I’m sure the 225 DA pull will get smoother with time and use. The reset is very short, very tactile and very audible. The 225 has a slightly flared mag well so finding the hole for reloading was easy. The G10 grips are outstanding.

    I had a Galco Avenger holster for a Springfield XDm 3.8 Compact, my first carry pistol. The 225 fits that holster nicely and will do until I get a replacement. I could crank down the retention screw and tighten it up just a tad but overall it fits well as is. I accessed the live chat on Galco’s website to ask about holsters. The Galco person (or bot) said Galco didn’t have a specific so holster for the 225 nor had they tested it in any of their holsters but suggested the holster for the 228 should work. They confirmed the holster for the XDm was not the same holster as the one for the 228. I find it odd that Galco has never tested the 225 in their holsters, but then again, finding holsters designed for the 239 wasn’t easy either.

    Aside from the DA trigger pull being a tad stiff, the only complaint I have so far is the magazine base plates. The 225 base plates are perfectly contoured to the mag well with zero protrusions. At the moment, the magazines eject easily, but if they don’t eject as freely in the future there isn’t anything to grab for leverage. The 239 had a bit of a pinky extension and I had developed a technique of sweeping my support hand down the front strap when I ejected a magazine just to make sure the ejected mag cleared the mag well. That won’t help with the 225.

    Hopefully I am wrong and Sig isn’t phasing out this fine pistol. But at my age, this one should last me the rest of my life.

    Here are some photos.


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    Galco Avenger holster, Don Hume mag carrier.

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    Magazine base plate fits perfectly flush, doesn't give you much to grab if it needs help coming out.
     
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  2. sparkyv

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    Great reason to replace her, Plan2Live!
     
  3. bannockburn

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    First, congrats to your son for his engineering degree and for your generous gift to him of your P239! Way to go for both of you guys!

    Here's hoping your new replacement P225 works as well for you as your last SIG did!
     
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  4. Plan2Live

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    Thank you bannockburn. My next move is to order four more magazines. I have a two-mag mag carrier so I will want three proven mags for carry and three to train with, which means dropping on concrete, gravel, etc.

    I've never purchased a new Sig so I was hoping someone would have commented on smoothing out the DA trigger pull with time and use. Lots of views today but few commenters.
     
  5. SharpDog

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    IMHO the m11A1 and mk25 are the best carry pistols :)

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  6. Plan2Live

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    The double stack Sigs don't fit my hand. I have to reach too far forward to get my finger on the trigger, its an unnatural grip, I always feel like I'm slapping the side of the trigger rather than planting the pad of my finger on the trigger. The single stacks fit me perfectly. Besides, I doubt I will ever have an encounter where I need the extra rounds.
     
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  7. bannockburn

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    That was kind of how I felt about my first SIG, a P226. Decent ergonomics but just not a great fit for my smaller size hand. Felt the P228 a little bit more comfortable and finally found that the P229 with the E2 grip to be just right for me.

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    As the P320 series guns get more popular the older P-series guns will start disappearing, simple fact is its cheaper to produce major gun components out of polymer than it is machine them out of steel or alloy.
     
  9. Old Dog

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    I love my P-225A1 (really the wife's, but I'm the only one who ever carries I). Just feels so good in the hand, points naturally, great trigger and so accurate.
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  10. Plan2Live

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    I've been dry firing while watching TV. It's starting to feel even better than my old 239. I had the Hogue grips on the 239 and these G10 grips are amazing. I'm really surprised this gun doesn't have more fans or at least more vocal fans.

    I wish Sig had made a version of the 938 in DA/SA and no, the 290 wasn't "that" gun. The 290 felt chunky and awkward to me. I would settle for the 938 in a true DAO hammer fired platform.
     
  11. JDR

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    IMHO, the best SIGs are the ones that are out of production, the P228, the original P225 and the P6, the P239, and the West German P226 and P220 in .45 ACP and 9mm.

    My favorite “new” production SIG is the M11-A1, but it’s probably just a matter of time before that one gets killed off.
     
  12. Plan2Live

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    About three years ago I ran across a used P6. The DA trigger pull reminded me of a Nagant Revolver. Yes, it was that stiff, so I passed on that one. My 239 was made in America and I had no complaints with the build quality. I'm sure this new 225 will last me the rest of my life. Well, one caveat here, it is highly likely I will be buying 7 acres of land soon. There are several places I can set up a pistol range so this pistol might be seeing more action than the 239 did.
     
  13. JDR

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    My SIG P6 cost me all of $319 when I bought it about10 years ago, I wish I’d bought a spare gun to get extra OEM magazines. It came with 3 OEM mags, and I bought 4 more OEM mags when I was able to find them at $25/ea. Those ProMag 10 round mags work but they don’t drop free from my P6 anyway. The trigger is good enough for me, it is a good little shooter
     
  14. CoalTrain49

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    I have a P-239 (9mm). I think everyone who has one wants to keep it. I'm not going to part with that one.

    Soon all single stack alloy frame Sigs will go the way of the Dodo bird and that's really to bad. My favorite DA/SA.
     
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    It's very hard to go wrong with a SIG-Sauer. I have this model (it's a P226 AL SO):
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    (pics from italian importer Bignami S.p.A.)
     
  16. JR24

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    Though I highly prefer the older P6/225, I recently shot the A1 and found it a pleasant shooter.

    Didn't try to carry it but it looks like it'd conceal well. Certainly a better fit for my hands than the 239 and 245 I had in the past.
     
  17. JDR

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    You can save a lot of money if you go for a newer P239 rather that a P225-A1. These are essentially the same gun, which would explain why the P239 was discontinued. My P239 SAS Gen2 was unfired but sitting in the used gun case when I made off with it for $525.00 OTD. If you can find a nice P225-A1 for anywhere near that money, just buy it & enjoy it!
     
  18. .308 Norma

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    I love my m11A1, but I have rather large hands. On the other "hand," my 5' 2" wife (with proportionate sized hands) loves her P239.:)
    My wife has had her P239 since shortly after Sig first introduced them. Although, she doesn't shoot it all that much. We're both getting on in years, so my wife's P239 will probably last her from here on out.:)
     
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  19. Plan2Live

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    Some people may find price point important. I've arrived at a point in my life where it is no longer the deciding factor.

    I thoroughly loved my 239 before I gave it to my son and I did consider getting another 239 to replace it, BUT, Sig no longer had spare mags in stock for the 239 and over the 5 or 6 years I owned my 239 I never found an outside the waistband, vertical draw (no cant), leather holster specifically made for the 239. I had to get by using a holster that wasn't designed for the 239. I can find such holsters for the 225 A-1 and Sig has magazines in stock.

    The more I dry fire the 225 the more I like the overall feel. It is very similar to the 239 but the G10 grips are very comfortable and grippy at the same time. The reset is much shorter and more positive than my 239. I'm not saying the 239 isn't a great gun, I'm just saying that for me the 225 A-1 was the right call.

    The pistol world is moving away from hammer fired guns and that's a shame in my opinion. But I guess today's shooters want a system or platform simplified to the lowest skill level. That's cool, I like what I like and I'm glad Sig had this model available, I'm sure it will last and serve me well the rest of my shooting life.
     
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  20. JDR

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    Who cares what the “pistol world” does? Stick with what works for you!
     
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    Plan2Live, I agree with JDR. There are worse things in the world than to be really good with a Sig. That P22X family is still carried today by some truly serious professionals.

    Buy ammo, shoot it up, and repeat...
     
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    Indeed. As soon as it cools down I can go back to carrying my 226 (for whatever reason heavy guns annoy me more when it's hot) and that will be nice.
     
  23. Plan2Live

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    I plan on doing just that JR, buy-shoot-repeat. For a variety of reasons the amount of time I've spent shooting over the past two years has dwindled to near zero and it showed when I bought the 225 and headed to the range. Saturday I had my second range visit since buying this pistol and my accuracy is already coming back rapidly. I should be back to normal in another month or so.

    But I stand by my comment on striker fired guns, their manual of arm has been reduced to the lowest skill level. And that opinion is backed up by the comments made by striker fired proponents when discussing striker vs hammer fired guns. You hear things like "the DA/SA transition" or "I don't want to have to mess with a manual safety during a gunfight". What they are really saying is "i'm not proficient enough to carry a hammer fired gun". I realize this is thread drift and should be posted separately but I don't want to be accused of trolling. It would be interesting to see the comments if I ever posted that as a separate thread.
     
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