"I shot 4 or 5 deer a day. I used a 22 LR"

[Certaindeaf]

Some states are very unpopulated. Good luck to the game warden in all regards, including seeing if you're using a .22 (oh my!). It's up to us to police our own.. I'd drop a dime on this scumbag if for nothing more than to discourage anti's from perhaps using this tactic.. all hunters (hunters use guns) are scum and must be disarmed.

 

[DammitBoy]

You know, if you have a crop depredation permit it becomes perfectly lawful/ethical to kill very large numbers of deer that threaten your crops.

My wife's family has a cotton farm in alabama where we did just that on a regular basis using .22 rifles.

 

[Certaindeaf]

The Win 63 is a hell of a rifle and not likely something a wanton killer would use, whether you like it or not there's still sustance hunting going on and a fundamental right IMHO

But he wasn't hunting at all, he was riding off if you were to read the original post.

 

[Kachok]

He might not be lying, I lived in one area where the deer were darn near domesticated. They would not eat out of your hand or anything but I have walked within 30 yards of a few deer, and while they would not go in the back yard with a full grown boxer keeping watch they would come right up to the fence right in front of him.

 

[huntsman]

he was riding off if you were to read the original post.

yep and it didn't say what his intentions were or whether he retrieved his kills.

 

[Certaindeaf]

yep and it didn't say what his intentions were or whether he retrieved his kills.

Nor did I. It is not for us to investigate, though I certainly like a good yarn as well as the next guy.. we have whole agencies who's sole existence is to investigate such shenanigans.

 

[Eb1]

I would agree with Arkansas Paul, but I guess that's because being from Arkansas myself, I know of a few families down south that need the food. And if that is what it is, then it is none of my business. A man's gotta eat and provide for his family.

 

[huntsman]

we have whole agencies who's sole existence is to investigate such shenanigans.

Not in Ohio, I've called about poaching and IF you didn't witness they're not interested. I believe that DNR sole existence is their pensions after putting the time.

 

[Certaindeaf]

Not in Ohio, I've called about poaching and IF you didn't witness they're not interested. I believe that DNR sole existence is their pensions after putting the time.

That's the spirit. I understand witnessing and we haven't witnessed anything. Things happen on the side of the man though.. unless you lie flat there like a defensive slug. nevermind

 

[T.R.]

I'm certain that many deer are killed each year with the 22LR by game thieves. Eventually, nearly all of them get caught and convicted.

TR

 

[Eb1]

I am certain a lot get shot by game wardens using .22LR. You going to prosecute them, too.

Speculation on the internet is just out of control.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

Eventually, nearly all of them get caught and convicted.

In Pennsylvania maybe, not in the backwoods of Arkansas.
There are counties I would bet have more deer shot at night than during season legally. I stay away from those places. Those hillbillies are crazy.

 

[Cosmoline]

You can kill almost anything with a .22LR. They're the very best tool for poachers who want to keep things quiet. The ethical issues are not important to these folks.

 

[H&Hhunter]

Savage,

Ole "Atkinson" is a well known BS'er. He's been caught in many lies I wouldn't spend to much time worrying about it. I just ignore him.

His latest big fat sloppy one that he got caught on was him claiming to be a principle consultant to the Rhodesian (Zimbabwean) Game department in regards to their wild life Blue tongue epidemic (or maybe it was amthrax) but in either case he got caught big time on that one. The Zimabawean parks guy who DID work on the project, Gyanana, who just happens to be on the site staff where you found that post called ole Atkinson's bluff. Atkinson huffed and he puffed and he took his ball and he went home for about a year. He just recently started posting over there again.

That was the third or fourth whooper I've seen him caught up in and the third or fourth time that he left in a huff promising to never come back. Some of his other dubious claims are that he was hunting in Kenya in the 50's, the facts indicate otherwise, that he is the most experienced buffalo hunter alive today, the facts indicate otherwise, that he has shot cape buffalo with just about every imaginable caliber and rifle, you name it and he's shot a buff with it, that he once owned a 5Lb or 5.5 lb or 6LB or 4.8LB .500 Jeffery it just depends on the day and what weight he needs it to be for his argument.

He also challenges folks to fight him when they disagree with him or call him on his BS. The list goes on and on...

Are you getting the big picture?

 

[ldlfh7]

Just because you should not use 22 on deer does not mean you cannot. 22 can take lots of game with the right placement but I agree with everyone else that a body shot with 22 is a bit cruel.

 

[LeonCarr]

The saying goes that the .30/30 has killed more deer than any other rifle.

I disagree. It has probably killed more LEGAL deer than any other rifle. I would almost bet money that the .22LR has killed more deer than anything else.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

 

[huntsman]

but I agree with everyone else that a body shot with 22 is a bit cruel.

Worse than being shot with an arrow? a kill shot is a kill shot and everything else is just wounding.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

Worse than being shot with an arrow?

Yes, I believe it is much worse than being shot with an arrow. An arrow leaves a wound channel of over an inch diameter. Big difference.

 

[Patocazador]

Worse than being shot with an arrow? a kill shot is a kill shot and everything else is just wounding.

As any successful bowhunter knows, sometimes the deer don't even react to being hit. I've shot several that just did a small jump and then went back to feeding and fall over dead 20 seconds later. I doubt that they hardly feel it. A gut shot is cruel with any weapon or caliber, however I think an arrow is more lethal with a gut shot than a gun. Some of those vessels are cut and they perish quicker imo.

 

[huntsman]

No doubt an arrow is more effective at cutting and creating bleed out but you also have to believe a bigger object moving slower when penetrating will cause more initial pain, IMHO a suppressed .22lr rifle in the hands of a skilled marksman would be as humane a deer killer as bow but has less margin of error in shot placement.

 

[Art Eatman]

See Posts #29 and #39.