I shot the FN SCAR today

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HorseSoldier said:
my personal AR I was shooting in the class is chunkier than the SCAR-L, though I do think it modestly heavier than the more bare-bones M4A1 I'm issued on the work side of things. The ergos were nice, and it looked like maintenance is very user friendly as well.
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No offense, but I've often wondered about how many armchair commandos whine about the weight of a proposed weapon system, when their AR weighs 2x as much as a bare-bones basic model (and thus, the "new" systems are lighter) :rolleyes:

I'm not putting any money in any of these plastic guns that are coming out unless "we" win the election. For all these companies that say "oh yeah, we want to release to the civvie market", they all seem to have mystically pushed back the release date until after the new pres would've been sworn in. Tricky of 'em, no?

That being said, the concept's still pretty darn spiffy. Wish I could see a SCAR in person, though.
 
A few things....

The upper receiver is not polymer, it's extruded aluminum.

The lower receiver is not polymer, it's aluminum as well.

The upper receiver is the serialzed part because that's the way it is. Most European designs have the upper as the serialzed part....think FAL, FNC, HK G3.

The cocking handle is reversable.

The selector is ambidextrous, and the mag release is on both sides as well.

The barrel is free floated, and removal and reassembly with the supplied FN tool takes about 1 minute.

Also, the Mk. 16 and Mk. 17 SCAR's do NOT fire from an open bolt, they are closed bolt only. There's a little confusion about that with the original poster.
 
has similarities to the robarm xcr. looks real cool! ill need you to send it to me for further evaluation :D
 
That's the point - everyone does that, so why should we have to waste money and waste time and material for the one that is on it? Why not just stick an ERGO brand grip on it from the get go, if we're trying to make those ya know, improvements.
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Cuz I don't like the Ergo grip. I like the Hogue grips. A friend of mine likes the original grips. Should they include every possible grip in the box and you choose the one you want, send the rest back?
 
No offense, but I've often wondered about how many armchair commandos whine about the weight of a proposed weapon system, when their AR weighs 2x as much as a bare-bones basic model (and thus, the "new" systems are lighter)
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Not counting the issue of optics (my civilian AR wears a heavier sight than my issue ACOG), my AR generally weighs more than my issue M4 because that weight brings with it improved performance or capabilities. SCAR-L seems to do the same (and on some of the same features) -- a little more weight for an operator-level barrel swap system and a folding/adjustable LOP/adjustable comb height stock seems to be an acceptable trade off (and I won't even wade into the weight associated with the operating system, for fear the gas piston mafia will come leaping down off the top rope with talk of how ARs jam any time you think about firing them, etc.).
 
Was there one of those available in .308 for shooting? I guess that's the SCAR-Heavy, right?
 
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I'm adding a SCAR to the collection once it drops. I look forward to owning a SCAR and XCR together.

Though I still think the XCR has more advantages than disadvantages. It is more streamlined, especially when you compare 16" semi-automatic versions

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Thanks, TEMPLAR, for the reply about the Mk.17 SCAR-H in .308. I'll be interested to see how shooters like it. It looks like it still uses the FAL magazines, which may or may not be a plus. I'll be watching for a post on it.
 
The Mk. 17 SCAR-H uses a modified type of FAL mag, but they aren't going to be interchangeable......

Hopefully I'll get to play with one in about two weeks. :)
 
Templar,
Seeing as how you have been fortunate enough (I envy you) to have shot both the Massada and Scar-L....what's your opinion of one vs. the other?

Hopefully you don't mind this being my first post to the forum. I didn't see an introduction forum. I'll go check now and make one if possible.

Sean
 
No worries Sean.

I'll cut and paste the response I gave Bartholomew Roberts, a moderator here, when he asked me the same question in the Masada thread just down the page a bit.....

Templar said:
Well, this is going to sound like a cop out, but I want to be as honest as I can be.

The Masada that I shot was prototype #1, it had something like 80K-90K through it and was on it's third barrel.

The ACR will have a number of improvements, most important of them was the redesign and placement of the cocking handle.

I am enthusiastic about the ACR, with two big caveats....

1) Bushmaster is going to have to get it's head out of it's ass and start building top shelf carbines, they absolutely need to keep the quality high on this or they'll fumble a great design.

2) I'm most enthusiastic about the caliber changes and mag changes. The ability to buy one carbine in 5.56mm that uses M16 mags and then switch it over to a 7.62x39mm rifle that takes unmodified AKM mags....that's a hell of an idea.

To be honest, I'm going to take a wait and see attitude with the Bushmaster ACR and see if they can keep their standards as high as Magpul.

With the SCAR-L, I was extrodinarily impressed. A lot of brain power went into the design and execution of this system, and I have absolutely no apprehensions about the quality of the rifle.

J.M. Browning and D. Saive would be proud of the guys at FN who brought this out. They took some of the best features of several established designs, threw a little of their own magic into it, and it frackin' WORKS, and works extremely well.

As soon as the civillian SCAR-L hits the market, I'm buying one, especially with the 10.5" barrel.

I don't think it's really fair to try to compare a prototype (Masada) to a production rifle (SCAR-L), I'd need to be able to have both a production ACR and a SCAR-L side by side to do a fair comparison.

I have high hopes for the ACR, but I can't wait for the SCAR-L (and H) to hit the market.
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Thanks so much for the comments.

I am partial to the Masada/ACR myself....but I'm not really interested in another 5.56 (I have several already) and want it in a 6.8 SPC, but I doubt BM will release it anytime soon and I fear (perhaps irrationally) that a new AWB may be coming down the pike before I can get a chance to own either the ACR or SCAR.

I too am concerned about BM quality....FN on the other hand has been pretty impressive from the weapons I've actually held. I'd be interested in the SCAR-H...but it too is slated for a pretty late release date.

Again, thanks for the opinion. It was very enlightening.

Take care,
Sean
 
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