I thought only Glocks Kaboom

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by PhillyGlocker, Dec 26, 2008.

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  1. PhillyGlocker

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    Changes nothing. Glocks are some of the best pistols on the planet, and have revolutionized the realm of handguns. It's that simple.:neener:
     
  2. Blue Brick

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    More reasons why I only purchase Rugers.
     
  3. Erik

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    "I thought only Glocks Kaboom..."

    You are correct. The kabooms which look like makes other than Glocks in the thread that you posted are all photo shopped Glocks; each and every one of them. :evil: :neener:

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    Of course folks can manage to kaboom most anything.
     
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    "I also see a lot of people haven't responded to the thread because they don't want to see the truth."

    I think a lot of them responded to the last thread on this topic. Or the one before that. :)

    Of course, the word KaBoom was invented to describe what Glocks did. Later it was generalized to other guns.

    Did you really believe that only Glocks KaBoom?

    John
     
  5. jon_in_wv

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    What exactly did the Glock revolutionize? Every part of it was borrowed from other designs. Polygonal rifling?, Polymer frame? Tilting Barrel? All done before. It throws the same lead as any other weapon. It made NOTHING obsolete and in fact the 1911 has seen a massive resurgence of popularity in the last few years. The Glock has not taken over the shooting sports. The 1911 is still king of those. Your point has no merit it seems.
     
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    Jon, give it up. Once they drink the kool aid there's no saving them.
     
  7. ljnowell

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    These kind of threads make me laugh. How dare someone say a glock is better than a 1911, lets call them every name in the book and bring up kool-aid. 1911s are obviously better, right? Right? Wait, hypocrits.
     
  8. jon_in_wv

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    I KNOW you can't talk sense to them. But you can sit outside their cage and throw peanuts at them.
     
  9. gc70

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    The majority of LEO's drive Fords or Chevys for the same reason they carry Glocks. The only thing indisputable about Glocks is the marketing genius to practically give them to LEO's to gain visibility.
     
  10. 1911shooter

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    any firearm can and will KABOOM, but a glock does do it more then any other as jon in wv said you can never reason with the poly kids i have a glock or 2 and i only keep them in the safe and shoot them with factory loads no reloads. when you dont support the cartridge properly thata what happens. as for the rest of the blowups im glade i wasnt there to see the ruger go cause thats a real challenge.
     
  11. ljnowell

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    More BS. Lets keep it going folks!
     
  12. Jim K

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    Just FWIW, a while back I ran some tests with bullets pushed back in the case, supposedly a cause of high pressures and gun blowups.

    At the time, I used only 9mm; I since have done the same with .40. I used a vise, not a loading tool, to push the bullets back in .10" increments until the bullet would go back no further (or the cases bulged too much to chamber). I did this with 5 different ammo makes in 9mm and three in .40.

    No ka-boom. Only when the bullet actually crushed the powder did the cartridges show any sign of high pressure, a slight flattening of the primers. Not an extensive test, nor an exhaustive one, but enough to make me doubt that the dreaded bullet setback ALONE will cause a blowup.

    Now an alternate idea. Most KBs supposedly happen on the first round from the magazine. I have seen a shooter with a .40 pistol load the first round and pull the trigger. The gun failed to fire. He then assumed that the round had not chambered and operated the slide again with the pistol pointed down range.

    Then he brought the pistol down to the "ready" position AND A 9MM ROUND FELL OUT OF THE BARREL! The first round in the magazine was a 9mm. When he loaded it, it was not caught by the extractor but was just pushed into the barrel beyond reach of the firing pin.

    I don't know what would have happened if he had fired the .40 round with a 9mm in the barrel, but I suspect it would not have been good.

    I have found that a .40 can be put into a .45 barrel the same way, also trouble looking for a place to happen.

    Jim
     
  13. jon_in_wv

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    I'm not even saying its a Poly issue as my main carry gun is an M&P. BUT it has a fully supported chamber and won't fire out of battery. Its not perfect you see.

    Cops eat donuts, drive Caprices, and the Association of Police Chiefs believe in banning guns. Are you a fanboy of those too?

    And Jim, don't be silly. Glocks are 100% reliable with whatever ammo you put in it. Silly things like caliber are for lesser weapons.

    Somebody hand me more peanuts.
     
  14. ljnowell

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    So, its OK to like what you do, right? We just want to make sure, otherwise we will be "fanboys" and "kool aid drinkers".

    Is it still ok for us to like women, or have you switched to sheep only?
     
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    thread lock on the way

    ......and not soon enough
     
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    Yeah, hopefully soon, there may be people that are more uneducated on the facts of glock (looking at above statements, not likely) that may get the wrong idea.
     
  17. jon_in_wv

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    ljnowell,
    I've said more than once you can like whatever you like. Maybe you should try reading a few posts about what I said. I'm not going to keep explaining it when its there for you to read.
     
  18. Jim K

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    For the record, I ran the first series of 9mm setback tests in a Ruger convertible (in case pressure did turn out to be high), then ran the same tests using a Glock. My test .40 gun was a S&W Sigma. The only high pressure signs were as reported above.

    The .40 gun with the 9mm in the barrel was a Beretta.

    Jim
     
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    I've read all your posts, I found them very entertaining, in many ways. I just find it ironic that a person can violently defend one type of gun as flawless and another as a POS. Its comical.
     
  20. jon_in_wv

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    The Glockers are getting testy but not one thing has been said about what the Glock has supposedly revolutionized? Someone please tell me what it is. I would love to know why my M&P or my HK or my FEG PJK-9HP is so inferior and what the Glock will do that they won't?? Please do tell.

    Since that answer won't come I'll answer it for you. The OP is correct. Glock is not a UNIQUE weapon unto itself. It is just like the rest. Some fail, Glocks included. Glocks are not unique or revolutionary or super duper special. They are just good. Just like their competition. I don't hate em. Thats stupid. Nor do I LOVE them. Thats equally stupid. They are a quality tool. If you prefer it than its right for you. If you DON"T than its not. That doesn't make everyone wrong because they don't drink the Glock Kool-Aid.

    The lesson learned here is that if you start an inflammatory thread. Don't whine when you get flamed.
     
  21. bubbaturbo

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    I imagine that some haven't replied because of your propensity in other threads to call anybody who even dares to question Glock "perfection" a liar.
     
  22. jon_in_wv

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    Now your just a liar. Show me where I said any such thing. Feel free to quote me.

    You know fully well you can't back up that any more than any other outlandish and ignorant claim you make. In fact I've said the opposite of what you claim repeatedly. Your dishonesty is pretty transparent.
     
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    Actually, that wasnt directed at you, but if the shoe fits. I'm sure you would defend your firearm of choice to the bitter end if it was being bashed.

    Personally, I could care less, the experience of the world proves out the opinions of the few.

    Why do you attempt to "call out" people who say the glock was a ground breaking weapon? It most certainly was, without a doubt. It is responsible for your M&P that has a fully supported chamber and is indestructable. Or the sigma (unfortunately), or any of the other modern polymer combat pistols. The glock paved the way for all of them. Whats the problem with that? I dont remember seeing anyone say that the glock does things that the M&P cant do, or the FNs, etc.

    In fact, when reviewing this thread the first negative post of any kind was :

    That was the post that changed the tone of the thread. Interesting. You seem to be doing a lot of chest pounding and arguing anyway. Why do you get so butt hurt when someone brings up a glock? Were you abused by one in your youth?
     
  24. jon_in_wv

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    You quoted me then said you weren't referring to me? Thats pretty sharp English skills there pal.

    And it was you who went on the attack and keep misquoting to make your point. Sad really.

    I"m tapping out. I've run out of peanuts. I also have a rule about debating with people who aren't honest. They will only lie to make their point and will never have the integrity to admit when you've made one.

    To the rest of you I'd like to apologize for the following negative and childish posts. I apparently caused these and I am deeply sorry.

     
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    When you play with things that go boom wear ear plugs and good eye protection. Does anybody know of any cases where a gun kabooming seriously injured somebody who was properly equipped with safety gear?
     
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