Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by castile, Oct 20, 2021.
One reason that technocrats (and most of the left) have issues is that many of the working class can make things.
Often simple is best, but a more detailed analysis in my opinion.
I don't think any form of gun control is a high priority right now. For one thing a lot of Democrats became 1st time gun owners within the last few years and there is less pressure from them to make laws more restrictive.
Sure there are some who want more restrictive laws, but they know that right now is not the time.
plebs) that's ALREADY WROTE. Again, glad to be wrong. After all, only the oil pipeline workers, border agents, food distribution/trucking, covid doctors/nurses/LEO & 1st responders, others,etc. etc. , need be extra severely disappointed due to this Admins horrible multi-spectrum decisions. Already.
Yes again, all all all them, but not this one lil issue. GLAD TO BE WRONG about that cloud ahead , as the automatic headlights come on.
At present the main push is fighing off ballot auditing because it would immediately oust some from office due to fraud. After that, the vaxx push as they are deep into Pfizers pockets. That is not over yet and there will be major repercussions. Both lead directly to control - they stay in office and they impose the same system on us as China did, you pay with an app on your phone. It can be tied to your social score and also restrict you if you post something detrimental to our overlords. No gas no groceries because you said "Lets go Brandon" on line.
Gun control is way down the list of things going on right now. They know we know there are 65 million who already own 450 million + guns. The current scam is to work right around that and look where we are now. Just sitting around taking it.
You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.
If they lose control of the legislative branch it’s DOA.
In the meantime, they’re letting the D-dominated states do the dirty work for them. Ca has already banned the manufacture of 80% pistols by making serial numbers mandatory… then refusing to issue serial numbers to home built pistols since they are not on the arbitrary DOJ roster of “safe guns” (neat trick, huh?). Soon a new law takes effect that looks like you won’t be able to possess, buy or import any 80% lowers, gun parts or kits for home-building any handgun, rifle or shotgun, either.
First of all, there's potentially a jurisdictional problem with the federal government preventing the home manufacture of firearms. The whole FFL scheme hinges on two important facts.
1. The licensees are, by definition, involved in interstate commerce. That makes it clearly within the federal government's jurisdiction.
2. The licensees volunteer to be licensees and therefore to be governed by the federal laws regarding licensees. Nobody has to be an FFL if they don't want to be.
Things get really sticky if they try to regulate someone who's making guns for their own personal use. It's very difficult to explain how that has anything to do with interstate commerce, even in the ridiculously expanded version of that clause perpetrated by Wickard v. Filburn. Remember, if the person is making the guns to SELL, then that's already illegal so there's no need for additional regulation there.
States can probably limit home manufacture of firearms for personal use without having to deal with that hurdle.
There are practical problem with trying to regulate pieces of metal or plastic that can be turned into firearms. You have to somehow be able to define what you're regulating so that owning pieces of plastic and metal don't suddenly become illegal. What makes one piece of metal illegal (because it could be made into a firearm too easily) while another piece remains legal? They might be able to push the threshold down from 80% to some smaller percentage, but that won't really serve the intended purpose unless the percentage is pretty small. And in that case you're down to just regulating what's basically a piece of metal or plastic.
They could try to regulate the technologies used in home firearm manufacture, but that would be even harder, IMO.
My feeling is that the only way they will make any real headway on their goal at the federal level is to eliminate the existing barriers to firearm registration at the federal level and institute universal firearm registration. Then they can use a similar scheme to the NFA (which has stood the test of time and legal challenges) to prosecute people who make firearms but don't register them. In other words, it would still be perfectly legal to make a firearm for your own personal use--but you would have to register it to avoid prosecution. This also has the side benefit (from their perspective) of making UBC easily enforceable.
Again, what people don't realize is this proposed rule change also effects any firearm made prior to 1968 that also does not have a serial number. Too many want to over look that fact. And I can't stress that enough to those that want to ban 80% builds.
Huh, I didn't know that. So does this now mean that I'd have get my JC Higgins serialized? How would one even do that?
Glad I still live in a semi-free state. For now.
And they are trying to make it hard to even get a serial number for homebuilt firearms there by citing the fact that every gun must be on the state safe firearms list. And with Glocks, only the Gen 3 is on the safe list.
As it is now the Dems hope to capitalize at the polls on their failure to push through gun legislation. Don't be surprised to hear the Dems : "We tried to push through reasonable and responsible gun legislation but the Republicans blocked all those efforts because they are all in the NRA's pockets! Vote Democrat in November to make our streets safe from gun violence!"
One reason politicians try to push through legislation they know will not pass it to use it as political ammunition against the opposition come election time.
Of course, it’s Politics 101. Every loss can be made into a gain with the right spin.
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