I Tried the 9mm and Liked It...Feeling Guilty :)

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Folks:

Okay, I'm a long-time .45, .357, .44 and .40 guy...never had much use for the 9mm and will STILL keep my XDM .40 as my home defense gun (with Ranger ammo)...BUT I recently got my CCW and have been thinking through weapons. Was planning on carrying a 4" SS Champion (shoots straight as anything) but it's kind of heavy, so I rented the G19 and G23 today. Years ago I owned a G22 but traded it in for another weapon.

So, long story short, I shot the G23 just fine today, but the G19 was like magic. Very fast follow up shots, VERY accurate rapid fire, and while I don't mind the G23's recoil, the 9 is noticeably less and seems quicker for follow up. I'm sure with training the G23 would be equally great, but seeing as how I don't yet have a 9mm, AND thinking I might want to have one since ammo is readily available, I'm probably gonna pick one up.

That said, I'm feeling a bit guilty about liking the 9mm...is there some place here on THR I can go for absolution? :)

Have a good night all!
 
None needed. Go with it. I usually carry a .45 but have no issues with a 9, .38+P or even .380 when that fits better. No question that I shoot the 9 better than the .45 (could be my customized HiPower is just that much more accurate). Pick good ammo and enjoy the 9.
 
OP, if you mean the 9mm is considered puny, then my view on it is there is no clear winner in the caliber wars. Although i don't have much hands on experience with guns as yet, I've done a lot of reading on the subject. I think the increased shootability of the 9mm may more than compensate for any lack of ballistic efficiency compared with a caliber that begins with a 4 (or the 357 caliber). And you get to pack more rounds and the ammo is cheaper.
 
I'm primarily a .45ACP and .357 Magnum shooter myself, but I love the 9mm on its own terms too.

I'd never voluntarily rely upon it in FMJ, but with modern construction hollow points it holds its own.
 
Try shooting a PX4. I shot a rented G19 and the recoil from my PX4 is slightly less. At least it seems like it.
 
I have Lone Wolf 40-9 conversion barrels in my G22/G27 to shoot 9mm for practice and I love it!

Cheaper to shoot and I can load them fairly hot to give me a good comparable light 40S&W load for practice.

If it puts a grin/smile on your face, keep on shooting! :D
 
I know the feeling

This is the 2nd time today for me.
This is hard but I'm gonna do it:eek:

My name is Tilos.. and I have, shoot, and like a 9mm gun:eek:
I feel better already:uhoh:

I bought a 9mm drop in barrel and G19 Mag for my Glock 23.
I have shot more than 3000 rounds through it and it would take me at least 30 minutes to even FIND the stock 40 barrel for it!

Buy the G23 and for the price of a barrel and mag ($130+/-) have a G19 to shoot.
You can't beat two guns in one.

Tilos
 
My next couple of pistols will be 9mm, having been a longtime .40 fanboy I am beginning to switch tracks a bit, I don't believe the 9mm is weak, or worse as a defense cartridge than .40 or .45, because as cool as it is to have a cartridge that begins in .4. it's cooler to have significantly cheaper ammunition, lower recoil, higher capacity in the same size frame, all of those are great things.

And it works fine on people provided you don't load it like a jackass or according to NJ state law.
 
...while I don't mind the G23's recoil, the 9 is noticeably less and seems quicker for follow up.
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Yup, if shooting a 9mm weren't an advantage there wouldn't be power factor limits or penalties for lower power factors in practical shooting disciplines.
I'm sure with training the G23 would be equally great...
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Can you train with the G23 until one day you're as good with the G21 as you are with the G19 today? Yes. But when you've reached that level of proficiency the G19 will still recoil less and let you follow up faster. You can't beat physics.
 
Not for carry, I don't know, their laws about it are all screwy, hollow points are ok for range use, and possibly home defense, it's a gray area, but not out and about I think.

I don't know, someone who knows more about it will come along. All I know is that it's all mixed up.
 
I'm a huge fan of the 9mm, always have been.

I don't care what anyone says, the 9mm has proved its worth many times over. I love the round for target shooting because it's relatively cheap and plentiful and I'm not afraid to carry 9mm as a defensive round. My primary ccw is a 9mm S&W 3914.
 
I'm glad you feel guilty. Now go buy a Smith & Wesson 952 so that I'll feel less guilty about wanting one of 'em. :D
 
I started with a S&W 39-2, then .357 revolvers and then .40 S&W SIG , finally the M1911 in .45 acp. Now I shoot in IDPA and IPSC matches, Glock G34 soft shooting, and laser straight is my choice. My former carry weapon was a SIG P232 .380, now I use a CZ 75D PCR 9mm ( traded a S&W 59 for it). I have rekindled the old friendship with the 9mm, so much in fact I'm now looking at a 1911 chambered for 9mm. Get the G19, I almost did, would have if the PCR had not jumped into my hand, but I am done buying CZ, (have the best), not finished buying Glock.
 
I think this typifies the .45 guys, the .45 is such a part of their persona they feel guilty if they switch :)

Like a guy who works at Ford who cant admit he enjoyed driving his buddies Toyota.

Either way, welcome to the world of cheap WWB ammo. :)
 
Just another stupid Liberal Gun Grabbing Mindset State. Please don't tell them that we won a few wars and now are still using FMJ in our military to kill people!
 
For quite a while the only autos I owned/shot other than .22's were 1911-style .45's. I picked up a S+W 3913 a while ago just because it was a gun I always liked the looks and feel of. So it was originally the gun, not the caliber, that rekindled my interest in 9mm, but now that interest is going strong. Since getting that 3913 I have added two more 9mm's and another is on its way. When I used to fret over carrying a "small caliber" I reminded myself how many so-called "experts" relied heavily on .38 snubs and .380's in their pockets. The main reason I went to one of my nines for carry is that I was enjoying, handling and shooting them the most when I got to the range. Makes sense to me to carry what I am most comfortable and familiar with.
 
My 1911 is a hair-trigger tac-driver, my .357 is a giggle-inducing hand cannon...

My xD-M 9... I like it because ammo is cheaper than the above mentioned, it is a piece of cake to take down, it's been dead nuts reliable with over 3000 rounds and ZERO malfunctions, it hits what I aim at every time, and holds 20 rounds to boot.

The one thing I hate about it... Takes too long to reload a magazine! :D
 
Don't feel guilty at all, welcome to the club. If I could only pick one handgun caliber it would be 9mm. I really don't get the NJ state law prohibiting hollow points. Wouldn't the public be safer if people didn't use over penetrating fmj and attackers of innocent civilians were stopped more quickly?
 
I decided long ago that 9mm was perfectly acceptable for carry (heck, if an NYPD officer can take down a guy in Times Square with 9mm...works for me!) and never looked back. G19, S&W 6906 and a Taurus PT-709 Slim get rotated for carry on a regular basis (I might start leaving the 6906 in the safe, though -- I point and aim the G19 much more naturally than the 6906).

Gunfighter123 said:
Sorry but I don't understand --- no hollow points in NJ ???
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19-3Ben said:
Exactly. They're illegal there.
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Well, sort of. They're illegal for personal CCW there -- but since NJ is practically a non-issue state, it doesn't really matter. You can legally own them and shoot them at the range, though. If you happen to be one of the few people issued a CCW permit in NJ, you can only carry FMJ.

http://www.njsp.org/about/fire_hollow.html

From my understanding, only NJ LEO's are allowed to carry HP ammo, and I'm not even sure that they're allowed to carry them off-duty. (Gotta ask a retired NJ cop that I work with.) Even if you're a non-NJ LEO or a retired NJ LEO carrying in NJ under LEOSA, you're supposed to carry FMJ ammo only. So glad I moved out of the state recently.

Usual disclaimers: I'm not a lawyer, I don't play one on TV, nor do I sleep with one...
 
Takes too long to reload a magazine!
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I just bought my first high capacity uber nine. I was shocked at how long it takes me to load up four mags compared to my 1911's. I was also equally shocked at the size of my brass pile when I unloaded those same 4 mags for storage.
 
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