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I want a 9mm revolver

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by default57, Dec 17, 2010.

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  1. default57

    default57 Member

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    I want a 9mm revolver
    would it not be handy to have a 9mm revolver?
    I would like to just simply have a normal semi-auto and revolver for concealed(like the S&W 649). Considering it is supposedly the most common handgun caliber in the world and therein, is cheap, available anywhere ammo is sold, and is used by the standard issue Beretta 92.
    is that too much to ask? is it bad to have 9mm in a revolver?
    Why is there not one in production?

    Besides having a dedicated 9mm revolver, it would also be nice to shoot .38 or .357 from the same gun for TEOTWAWKI(the end of the world as we know it) and flexibility. Putting concealed carry aside, why is it so hard to create a revolver that shoots all three of those accurately? the measurements are shown. Differences show some different bullet sizes, which means barrel diameters, which doesn't help in accuracy. There is the ruger blackhawk but I hear 9mm is inaccurate in it because of the that difference. Can I create a 9mm myself with a gunsmith?

    Then also there is the Phillips & Rodgers Medusa revolver. How the heck does it work? Why, so I hear, can it be so accurate in all sorts of different calibers?

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  2. MikePGS

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    Hmm. Taurus still makes a 9mm as far as I know, S&W used to make one (940 model I think) and Ruger made their SP101 in 9mm for a time. You would have to look for the S&W and Ruger used, but as far as I know they are still making the taurus. Charter Arms recently announced (a year or two ago) that they were going to make a 9mm revolver, but as far as I know it never came to fruition.
     
  3. CoRoMo

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    I have a Ruger Blackhawk Convertible. They still make those IIRC.
     
  4. default57

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    dedicated 9mm I was thinking because I hear those don't shoot well. How does yours shoot? and I also was thinking concealed DA/SA. I obviously like the idea though and I might get a blackhawk eventually.

    and what does IIRC mean?

    p.s. yes guys I know there are lots of threads on 9mm revolvers. These are the begged questions that I found unanswered in my search
     
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  5. MikePGS

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    IIRC means "If I recall correctly".
     
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    They are still available through dealers online, so I'm guessing so. 9mm / 357 convertible.

    I know I want one really badly. I'm going to start reloading 9mm, 45 and 223 after the first of the year (now there's a resolution I can get on board with) so a blackhawk would be a neat addition and I could share ammo with my autos. A 9mm revolver just seems neat to me since I've never shot one. I can always throw the 357 cylinder in there when I feel the need to "cowboy up." I have an old, handmade, engraved, leather western holster left to me by an uncle...it's all empty and lonely with nothing to fill it. Blackhawks are...well they're just cool.
     
  7. John Wayne

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    The last Ruger Blackhawk convertible I saw with 9mm and .357 cylinders sold for $425, about a day after it was put in the case. If you ask me, there is no point to shooting 9mm out of a single action gun of that size.

    9mm is only practical in revolvers with barrels 3'' or shorter, in my opinion. In that barrel length it is very efficient, and you have a compact, easy to shoot package. The S&W 547 is the holy grail of 9mm revolvers, as it does not use moon clips. I had one and it was an awesome gun, but I sold it to another THR member. They are pretty collectable and quite expensive compared to other K-frame S&Ws.

    You can have a 9mm revolver made from any gun that shoots .357 Mag. .38 SPL cylinders are long enough but won't take the pressure. Conversions will be a custom, one-off job, and will likely require custom fabrication of moon clips, which will be hard to load without a tool, and may be flimsy and cause reliability issues.

    Your best bet will be to try and find something used. While they are more collectable and more expensive, it will still be cheaper than a custom conversion. S&W, Ruger, and Taurus have all recently made 9mm revolvers in various sizes.
     
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    9mm is .355" bullet.

    Even with a 9mm cylinder, you are still pushing a .355 bullet down a .357 bore.

    Some folks have complained about accuracy.
     
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    Interesting that this topic has come up, I plan on speaking with the Exec's from Ruger at the Shot Show in Jan. and bring up a version of the LCR in 9mm, personally I believe that would be a huge success and force S&W to follow suit as they did with their Bodyguard revolver since the LCR was taking so much of the market share from them...
     
  12. John Wayne

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    Also, .38 SPL/.357 MAG bullets are generally .358 if lead, .357 if jacketed. I don't recall seeing any .359 bullets like your chart lists.
     
  13. rcmodel

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    I want a 9mm revolver
    That's what everyone says.
    Until a manufacture tools up and makes them, like S&W & Ruger has done in the past.

    Then they can't sell enough of them to make any money making them.

    rc
     
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    I was actually just planning to buy a Taurus 905 in 9mm. The ballistics (elsewhere on this forum) are much better for a 9mm+p out of a 2" barrel (1000-1100 fps, 124 grain) than .38+p out of a 2" barrel (800-850fps, 125 grain).
     
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    Taurus does still make their 9mm revolver. I bought one about six months ago just to have something different. It shoots decently, but the build quality isn't even close to the other revolvers I have (Ruger SP101, Single Six, S&W Bodyguard and S&W 60-15). The trigger pull is nothing too great, either. It was fairly inexpensive, though, or I wouldn't have bought it.

    Here's mine. Not the prettiest gun, either, but in fairness this was right out of the box before cleaning it. Still, the finish is merely serviceable.

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    To heck with the ballistics.
    A BG will not be able to tell the difference between the two if you shoot him in all the right places.

    The major advantage of a 9mm revolver is the ability to use moon-clips instead of speed loaders.

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    Or to have a same caliber bug as your semiauto primary if you are so inclined. Or to only have to stock 9mm if that's all you need. I don't do either of those though.
     
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    Salty1, a 9mm LCR would be fantastic. I hope you're persuasive with the Ruger execs.
     
  19. Jim Watson

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    RC was right.
    We have had the S&W 547 and 940; the Ruger Speed Six and SP 101. Sales were poor so they dropped the caliber and kept selling .38/.357 versions of the same guns.

    Manurhin built some 9mm/.357 convertible revolvers, my MR73 box has a recess for the extra cylinder... but no cylinder. Chapuis now owns the line and I see no mention that they offer 9mm.

    P&R could not make a go of the multi-caliber Medusa and Colt talked about buying the design from them but got smart before they sank a lot of money into one of those things more talked about than used.

    There is always Korth.
     
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    If they decide to come out with one built around 9x19 cartridge with features like shorter cylinder and matching frame put me down for one. In all fairness I would pay good premium for something like this. I have little interest in 9x19 chambers in .38/.357 designed gun. Oops, I just pinched my nose and realized most would not be willing to pay out extra cash for such a cutie so we can all keep on dreaming.
     
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    Wish I could get my hands on a Medusa. Too bad only about 500 or so of em were ever made and half of which were shipped overseas.

    The problem with the 9mm revolvers mentioned is they all require moonclips to eject reliably. To the average shooter.. that is a true pain in the ass, especially just for casual shooting in the range.
     
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    Ruger made for awhile a Speed Six chambered in 9mm. They are not easy to find but are very good revolvers. I have a Blackhawk 357/9mm in 4 5/8 barrel and love it. Its my all purpose revolver.
    Howard
     
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    S&W 547 is a very nice 9mm revolver had one once and like a fool sold it. These did did not require any moon clips.
     
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    I have the Taurus 5 shot stainless version model 605,..it's a good shooter,..albeit a bit snappy in the recoil department for a small frame. The moon clips are not THAT much of a hassle at all,..and I actually prefer them over a speedloader.

    I also have an Old Model Ruger Blackhawk convertable that shoots .357's and .38's as good or better than I can hold them,..and it does a decent job out to 25 yards with the 9mm as well. I to have heard the inaccuracy issues with them,...but never experienced it. I know a few others who have the convertables as well,..with no issues there either.

    Ruger sure sells a lot of them,...and it is neat they can shoot the 9mm's,... but I'd only use that for cheap range plinking fodder,.. or maybe a gone to heck in a handbasket case.....either way,..I'll keep the ones I have.....and more importantly,..I'd buy both again if I had to do it over.
     
  25. default57

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    all my questions, answered.

    I got these measurements from a whatever source but a good thread to accompany this one

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?61921-Anybody-have-the-case-dimensions-for-a-9mm-.38spcl-amp-.357-mag

    In response to W.E.G. the difference in bullet diameters seems like an insurmountable obstacle to accomplish the feat that I want. I heard of the Medusa being made with more rifling(less bore contact). Far off, I'm thinking that perhaps this sacrificed accuracy in the .357 for 9mm. As in making the bore more .355 for 9mm. Because, maybe, the less actual metal the bullet is forced through, the more able the bore will "stretch out" to accommodate the larger bullet. This is a total guess and, me having little experience in firearms, is me haha "shooting in the dark".

    I do like the ruger blackhawk, getting one sure, eventually. And I like that that taurus, G27RR, strictly because it is chambered for 9mm, but nothing else. Now is the Medusa accurate with all 3 calibers? either way I wish someone still made 'em. I find it very practical as a secondary gun.

    my questions have pretty well been answered now and I might buy the taurus, just for the sake of supporting a 9mm revolver, but please, continue to elaborate. Salty1 please call upon the gods of persuasion to help you (...or best, The God) get ruger to create a (my preferred) mock S&W 649 in 9mm.

    now I wonder, why won't 9mm revolvers sell?
     
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