I want a PCP, but I am cheap

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  1. Insignificant bill

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    Looking to get into Pcp rifles, but don't want to bust my bank to do it
     
  2. Atavar

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    You can have easy, accurate or cheap. Pick two.
     
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  3. Mauser lover

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    Standards of cheapness vary. What’s your goal?

    I got a Diana Stormrider, and it suits my needs pretty well.
     
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  6. cslinger

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    What is your budget?
    What are your shooting wants?
    What is your favorite color?
    What is the air speed velocity of a laden swallow?
     
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  7. Bill_in_TR

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    Whutza laden swallow?
     
  8. HJ857

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    English or African Swallow?
     
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    ^^^^^^
    Ahhhhhhhhhhh ;)
     
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  10. jmohme

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    I picked up my first PCP early in the summer. Umarex Origin

    Cheap - $350 and comes with everything but an optic ad pellets. $300 if you don't want the pump.

    Easy - Open the box. assemble the pump, fill er up, mount an optic, and go shooting.

    Accurate - surprisingly accurate out to 100 yards.

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    The Umarex hooked me and I also now have an Airfare TalonP and am looking at a much higher end regulated PCP.
    Tis an addictive hobby for sure.
     
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  11. whughett

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    Been looking at the 4 to 6 price range for a while. My hang up is at 80 years young don’t think a hand pump is going to cut it, which leaves a compressor and they can equal the cost of the gun.
     
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  12. jmohme

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    Hand pumping is really not that bad.
    No, I wouldn't consider it with PCP with a large bottle, but I hand pump both my Umarex Origin and TalonP almost every day. I just do 50 strokes of the pump at a time. Let the pump and myself cool down for a few minutes before finishing.
     
  13. cslinger

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    Hand pumping really depends on two things the pressure and size of the reservoir.

    Anything up to say 3000 psi (200 bar) is fairly trivial. Keep the reservoir under say 200ccs and it really is no big deal unless you are shooting and refilling a lot in a single day or filling numerous guns.

    As a point of reference.
    I have an Air Arms / CZ S200t. It fills to 190 bar and has a small reservoir. It is a low powered target rifle that I shoot out to about 20 yards. I get about 80-100 good shots out of it in general before I refill. I pump slowly to not build heat up and it takes like 40 stroke or so to get back to full. It’s not hard and doesn’t take more then 5 min and I go slow and that takes into consideration the hookups etc.

    Now if you have a super powerful gun that gives you 10 or 15 good shots and you want to plink then it can be a chore. If you have a bottle gun it can be a chore. If you have a 4000-4500 PSi gun it can be a chore. My little S200’s easy peasy.

    NOTE I was just as worried about hand pumping at first. Like I said just use my guidelines above and you will be GTG.
     
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  14. HJ857

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    Just in the OP is actually watching this thread, if you go PCP then a compressor is definitely your best option. Rifle pressures are going up all the time. I just have a basic Avenger and it goes to 4350psi and 2100 psi is the point where it drops off the regulator and I have to refill if I want a consistent shot velocity. Hand pumping from 2100 to 4350 means pumping for nearly forever and definitely for a huge amount of my range time. A compressor makes this chore trivial. Sure it's an added expense, but I go to the range to spend my time shooting, not spending my time working a hand pump.

    Another possible option is to get a rifle that has removable air tanks, you could acquire a number of them and just replace them as they run out of pressure. This may not be a cheap option either though.

    To the OP, if you can provide us with specifics we can give you better relevant replies.
     
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    Bought a .25 DAR this summer, $300. It's regulated, gets 20-22 full power shots on a fill before it falls off the regulator. I hand pump it with an Amazon Chinese pump. Takes 100 pumps to bring it from 1000psi to 3000psi. Comes with one mag, additional mags are $20. Damn nice magazine too. The first one I received had some issues, sent back prepaid shipping and they sent me a new one free shipping. No problems with this one. They offer .177, .22 & .25
    I think for the price it's pretty good. Also comes with a set of orings.
    Dynamic Air Rifles. You can read indepth reviews/problems/etc over on Gateway to Airguns site.
    I was going to buy an Avenger, but after some research steered away from that and found the DAR.
     
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    I bought a used SCUBA tank to fill my AirForce Condor, several times a year I take it to the SCUBA shop and they fill it for $5-10 a time. I can fill my gun many times from the SCUBA tank before I need to top of the SCUBA tank.
     
  17. Insignificant bill

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    I am still here
     
  18. jmorris

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    What would be the maximum amount of money that you could spend “all in” without “busting your bank”?

    What are you wanting to do with it, hunt, target shoot, at what ranges?
     
  19. Insignificant bill

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    Target shooting 400 for rifle. Then figure out what type of pump
     
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    $400 gets you a lot of pretty good choices.

    If you have a place nearby that can fill them an SCBA take can hold ~1500 psi more pressure than a scuba. This is helpful at finding the closest location to you.

    http://www.warpig.com/forums/fields/index.shtml

    If you can get a deal on an appropriate gear motor something like this could be thrown together fairly cheap.

     
  21. jmohme

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    DAR, Air Venturi Avenger, or Umarex Origin
    Buty any of these fall in your price range and can be filled with a $40 Chinese hand pump from Amazon.
    The Umarex comes with a pump, but mine didn't last long and rather than spend the time to reseal it, I just bought the Amazon pump.
    I use the same pump to pump up my Airforce TalonP
     
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  22. doubleh

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    I always craved an Air Force rifle and the electric powered compressor to go with but would never part with the bucks required for that setup. A hand pump wasn't an option. I pumped up enough flat tires on the farm with a hand pump to last me a lifetime when I was growing up. It takes a looong time to air up a rear tractor tire with a hand pump.
     
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  23. jmohme

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    I hand pumped this one for the first month I owned it.
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    I did recently buy a compressor that I could take out to my shooting table to keep my guns topped off but still use the hand pump frequently. It's really not that big of a deal as long as your not trying to fill a larger bottle or pressures over 250 bar.
     
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    At my age and physical fitness level I would wear out before I got a bicycle tire pumped up.
     
  25. Mauser lover

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    There’s less volume in a typical starter-level PCP than a mountain bike tire. It isn’t that bad.
     
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