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I Want a snub revolver...

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by JHK94, Apr 18, 2009.

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  1. JHK94

    JHK94 Member

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    Hi all; longtime lurker, new member!

    I want to get a lightweight .38 snubbie revolver for concealed carry. It just seems the prices I've been seeing are crazy. I was hoping to get a used S&W for a reasonable price, but that seems really unlikely (the only ones I've seen have been as much as the new ones). Heck, the closest I could find was an old Rossi and it was priced at 299.

    The only reasonable deal I've seen is 299 for a Taurus 85 UL, brand new. It's ~150 less than similar S&W's I've seen, so very tempting. Is this a good route to go? I also was hoping for a bobbed/shrouded hammer setup. Is it reasonable to think I could bob the Taurus hammer myself?

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  2. Eightball

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    If you can go $300, save up a bit more for around $400, and you can get many types of brand-new S&W Airweights. That's what I did, anyhow, and got a S&W 638 (airweight, shrouded hammer), and am glad I did.
     
  3. JHK94

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    hmm

    That's what I originally figured...but the S&W's I've seen in stock are all ~440, and I'm trying to decide if I want to keep playing this "if I only save a little more..." type of game.
     
  4. 3446

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    I've got a Taurus 605 that I carry everyday, and couldn't be happier with it. The 85's are reliable and would serve you well. I agree that a Smith is probably a little nicer on fit and finish, but I like my Taurus just fine, and it was a whole lot less expensive. I've got several thousand rounds through it without any problems.
     
  5. pogo2

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    You get what you pay for...

    Rossi and Taurus cost less than S&W because they aren't made as well, and you are more likely to have problems with them. The S&W will hold or increase in value most of the time.

    I got the airweight 642 below about 12 years ago for $350 new. I think they now sell for about $450, which still seems reasonable for such a useful gun.

    You must have an AZ concealed carry permit, so I presume you already own at least one handgun and know what handguns cost. The S&W airweight is one of the least expensive you will find. Glocks run $500 to $600, and Sigs are roughly $700 to $900. 1911s are close to $1000. It's the price of the admission ticket to the game, with ammo and holsters extra.

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  6. Stainz

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    While some Charter Arms (US), Taurus, and Rossi revolvers work quite well, some don't. It's as simple as asking yourself what your life is worth... then get the S&W 642.

    Below you'll see mine - along with my 627 Pro from last year. There is a 2.2x difference in cost... and a world of difference in function. While the 4" 8-shot .357 Magnum would be great in a fight - even I, as big as I am, could not conceal carry it. The 642 can be pocket carried in a pocket holster - like the Robert Mika units I like. It will be ready when you need it - and in your pocket, not at home because you couldn't conceal it's large belt mounted holster. No, it isn't fun to shoot with 'real' protective loads. But - it is plenty potent to 'protect your bacon'.

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    Like I said, think about it - and what your life is worth.

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  7. doc540

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    I suggest you actually SHOOT a lightweight .38 before you buy one (if you haven't already).

    Many people, myself included, have been more than a little surprised by +P recoil.

    Yes, you can shoot "lower recoil" self defense loads in them, but ammo becomes even more of a challenge than it already is.

    Just my two cents. (And I only own and shoot snub revolvers.)
     
  8. HD_Ride

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    yep, another vote for the S&W 642 38 Special. I picked up the 642 a few months back, it’s a very nice gun if 5-shots is good for the OP. I got it from Bud’s, it was just over $400 shipped. Needless to say prices are on the rise. I also considered the Ruger SP101 w/concealed hammer, but I opted for the S&W and to be honest it was a coin toss becasue if I had the funds I would have bought both. There are many great manufacturers however for me it's either S&W, Ruger or Colt

    I recently purchased the S&W 327 /357 8-shot…. more than I wanted to spend but I had to have it.
    http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...d=10001&productId=14810&langId=-1&isFirearm=Y

    EDIT: added Colt to favorites since I own a Colt 45 Officers special
     
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  9. Big Daddy Grim

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    I have the M&P version in .357 and love it very much it is my back-up everyday. On duty and off.
     
  10. JHK94

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    Thanks for all the info. Yeah, I do have a CCW, and normally carry an Kahr K9 IWB; I'm just looking for something a little lighter and useful for pocket carry. Plus I just love revolvers. I guess the price just shocks me cause the last time I was seriously looking at revolvers, the prices were a bit lower...

    Anyway, I have to say, the S&W 638 I looked at today might just have to come home next Monday...
     
  11. BlayGlock

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    I have several Taurus revolvers and they all work great, never have missed a beat. There is absolutley no harm in buying them. I have both a Taurus M85 UL and a Smith 637, the Smith will have a better trigger, but they both go bang everytime and are just a easy to conceal. If you want something easier to shoot get the Tuarus 605, it is an steel .357, and is much better in the recoil department. The light weight revovlers aern't to bad however, so long as you aern't a sissy when it comes to recoil. All of these small revolvers take practice to get preofecient with them, but they are plenty capable of being as accurate as you need them to be for self-defense. I was able to get the Taurus 85UL for just over $300 otd, and the Smith 637 at $450 or so otd. IMHO the extra $150 is not worth it for a pocket gun, spend it on ammo or better yet some reloading equipment.

    Also I would not bob the hammer as this may cuase light strikes.
     
  12. JHK94

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    Yeah, I was worried about light strikes. I've just seen (and shot) a few with bobbed hammers, and they seemed fine. Are these just special, heavier hammers? Or is it just "risky"?
     
  13. Guillermo

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    Doc gave u good advice. Personally I HATE a snappy light snubby and do not shoot them well. Interestingly enough I love shooting 44 Magnums.

    With this in mind I carry a Colt Detective Special. I shoot it well and the extra weight, to me, is a plus.
     
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    Tends to be just risky, it may not hurt, but then again it may. If you send me a pm with your info, I got a buddy that deals guns. He has a concealed hammer Taurus 850 CIA UL for sale in his shop. I can put you in contact with him.
     
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    If you just want it for concealed carry then a taurus is a fine weapon. If you think that you are going to be trading and selling it then go with an S&W but your going to pay for it because it keeps its value.
     
  16. Eagles6

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    Check out the S&W Airweight Bodyguard with the hammer shroud (I forget the model #), gives you both SA and DA with no chance of the hammer snagging. I think it's the perfect lightweight snubbie. Can carry in a front pocket holster no problem.
    Taurus also makes a lightweight .38 spl with a hammer shroud too. S&W is nicer and will probably hold value better. My Taurus is nice too but I haven't shot it as much although it runs fine.
     
  17. RobertCohn

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    I carry a Rossi 2" .357 and I love it; but I load it with +p's because the .357's are quite a wrist-wringer. I cannot feel it in carry at all in a harness and i carried it all day today while hiking. I have never had a problem with it.
     
  18. Magick

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    I have the S&W 638 and am absolutely thrilled. Shoots fine, recoil is "brisk" with +P, but not unmanageable. Carry in front pocket of jeans with an Uncle Mikes and on the belt slide with a Serpa (It is a little stiff on the draw, but pulls the gun up nicely and I forget it is there.) My choice was between this and the Ruger and I haven't had cause to regret my decision yet
     
  19. mesinge2

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    I have a Taurus Model 905 9mm snubbie, so I can use it as a back-up weapon for my full size 9mm semi-auto. About 500 rounds through it so far without a problem.
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    My only real complaint was the small grip. That was corrected for by a Hogue Monogrip. Aha, a place for my pinky.
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    http://www.hoguestore.com/index.php?main_page=index&manufacturers_id=4&sort=1a&filter_id=380

    However it not as accurate as my S & W model 64, but that has a 3" barrel.
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    Also, my $.02 is that I personally don't like airlights, or airweights, or ultralights, or whatever the new buzz word for them is. Take Doc advise try an one before you buy it. They recoil more harshly.
     
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  20. JHK94

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    Thanks for all the opinions guys; I'll just have to keep looking around, try a few more out, and see what feels best, as well as fits my budget.
     
  21. Dismantler

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    Supply and demand...

    +1 on the crazy prices! There has been a big rush on guns because Obama gave the gun manufacturers and shop owners their stimulus package! :p

    There is a real lack of used handguns in my area (NH) because everybody is keeping what they have. Ammo can be hard to get. Many are buying ammo and not shooting it.

    The law of supply and demand is working to drive prices up and availability down.:(
     
  22. doc540

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    this!
     
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    I really like the Taurus light weight snubbies. Got two, an 85 Multi-Alloy (aluminum frame, titanium cylinder/barrel shroud) and an 851 (all titanium and a shrouded hammer).
    Both have been uber reliable and handle +P quite well (recoil is subjective, of course). The 85 did have a light strike issue when I first bought it (I think Taurus was trying to lighten the trigger). That was fixed quickly by Taurus.
    Weight is the main factor when you pocket carry. Steel guns, even steel 85's, can drag your trousers down. That's why both my carry revolvers are non-ferrous. The 85 weighs about 14 oz, the 851 goes about 17 oz (weight is of an unloaded gun). The steel 85's go somewhere between 21 and 25 ounces. So, when you try a gun out, ask if you can stick it in your pocket and walk about a bit.
    The non-ferrous Taurus revolvers are more expensive then the steel guns, BTW.

    Good luck in your search and decision.
     
  24. BlayGlock

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    JHK 94, let us know what you get.
     
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    In my experience, my 642, +P ammo or not, is absolutely tame to shoot. It'll only bite you if don't keep a firm grip on it.
     
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