doc540
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"It'll only bite you if don't keep a firm grip on it."
Easy for YOU to say.
Easy for YOU to say.
I Want a snub revolver...
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ArchAngelCD
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IMO you will do very well to buy a S&W M442, M642, M438 or M638. I have more than one Airweight J frame and always have at least one with me at all times.
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not sure that i follow
doc540
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"not sure that i follow"
Look at the size of that MITT!!
Look at the size of that MITT!!
Glockensig
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Another vote for the Taurus 851 ( mine is not titanium ) - sweet shooting revolver!!
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huh
I thought it was just a really small computer 
JHK94
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Thanks for all the opinions! I'm still kind of torn. I definitely am interested in the Taurus 851, but haven't been able to find one in stock locally yet. I'm gonna keep poking around...if I can't even find one, I'm going to just splurge a little and get myself an early birthday present in the form of a 638!
10-Ring
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IMO, it's worth the time to get the Smith -- You'll probably keep this gun for a good long while, don't settle, just get Smith you want and be done with it
doc540
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Budget + "What I want" is always gonna be a problem.
So, here's another suggestion:
Take some time, have a little patience, go to gunbroker.com and create a search "Smith M36".
Look at the Smith and Wesson Model 36's in blue. I'm seeing some sell now and then for between $300-$375.
If and when you do get a Smith you'll have many grip options, and, most importantly, your local gunsmiths can really improve the trigger action on them.
Once you get a well made Smith with a smooth trigger, you'll thank me for offering this advice. (And it'll be in your budget!)
Good luck
So, here's another suggestion:
Take some time, have a little patience, go to gunbroker.com and create a search "Smith M36".
Look at the Smith and Wesson Model 36's in blue. I'm seeing some sell now and then for between $300-$375.
If and when you do get a Smith you'll have many grip options, and, most importantly, your local gunsmiths can really improve the trigger action on them.
Once you get a well made Smith with a smooth trigger, you'll thank me for offering this advice. (And it'll be in your budget!)
Good luck
Randyc74
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I've been carring J frame snubs since the middle 1970's I've owned several model 36's, model 60's and one model 49. I now carry a model 442 as a backup to my duty weapon. With the exception of one Charter Arms (Undercover) mistake, I've always favored the J Frames for backup off duty carry.
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MedWheeler
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Ask yourself "what's your life worth".. you'll hear this comment over and over again from the webwarriors, yet they're not buying new $40K+ cars every year to have the latest in safety when out and about. This is despite the fact that any one of us who operates a motor vehicle is much more likely to encounter a threat to our safety in doing so than one coming in the form of an aggressor (unless they're engaging in a risky lifestyle.)
For HD/SD, a Taurus that you know to function and do so well in your hands will do fine. Those same people who believe they should be armed at all times are, in fact, telling you to wait to be armed, aren't they? Remember the first rule of gunfighting, right? Have a gun!
More justifiable defensive shootings not involving LE or military personnel involve these so-called "lesser" arms than the Kahrs, Kimbers, Sigs, etc, because that's what people who live in the parts of the country more likely to contain these threats have. Most of the cases I've read up on that identified the defender's weapon type include Rossi .38s, Lorcin/Davis-type .25 and .380 pistols, no-name single-barrel or double-barrel shotguns, and various .22 and .32 caliber revolvers. These are the "beer-budget" arms people living "beer-budget" lives have when firearms isn't a pastime for them. I don't own a single firearm valued today at more than $400, but I trust any of the ones I keep for defensive purposes to do me as intended. They include a Taurus 4" 66 revolver, a Charter Arms Undercover .38, and a Bersa Thunder .380 pistol. The first is primarily a HD gun; one of the other two is on me at all (dressed) times.
For HD/SD, a Taurus that you know to function and do so well in your hands will do fine. Those same people who believe they should be armed at all times are, in fact, telling you to wait to be armed, aren't they? Remember the first rule of gunfighting, right? Have a gun!
More justifiable defensive shootings not involving LE or military personnel involve these so-called "lesser" arms than the Kahrs, Kimbers, Sigs, etc, because that's what people who live in the parts of the country more likely to contain these threats have. Most of the cases I've read up on that identified the defender's weapon type include Rossi .38s, Lorcin/Davis-type .25 and .380 pistols, no-name single-barrel or double-barrel shotguns, and various .22 and .32 caliber revolvers. These are the "beer-budget" arms people living "beer-budget" lives have when firearms isn't a pastime for them. I don't own a single firearm valued today at more than $400, but I trust any of the ones I keep for defensive purposes to do me as intended. They include a Taurus 4" 66 revolver, a Charter Arms Undercover .38, and a Bersa Thunder .380 pistol. The first is primarily a HD gun; one of the other two is on me at all (dressed) times.
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Quote:
His hand is closer to the camera then the laptop...matter of perspective.
doc540
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sheeesh...you engineering type.
it was a joke
it was a joke
Madcap_Magician
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Another thing is that ammo selection makes a huge difference in recoil for the snubbies. I fired some 158-gr. LRN Blazers that were slightly painful after about 150. OK, it was more like 145, since more than a couple misfired repeatedly. (Secondary lesson: Don't count on Blazers, especially now that they're not cheap anymore).
But the 130-gr. American Eagle, 148-gr. Remington Wadcutters, and even my 110-gr. +P Corbon defensive ammo are pretty tame.
But the 130-gr. American Eagle, 148-gr. Remington Wadcutters, and even my 110-gr. +P Corbon defensive ammo are pretty tame.
Guillermo
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Medwheeler's ultimate point seems to ultimately be that the Rossi's, Tauris and Charters fall into the catagory of "good enough."
With my life on the line, the best is barely sufficient.
This is not about price, but quality. I would rather a used Smith or Colt than carry an H&R. If the finish is worn you are still in the "beer budget" catagory.
Is Medwheeler right when he says (in essence) that Rossi/Taurus/Charter are good enough? I sure hope so. In my experience, the 2 times I had to use a firearm for self defense, one was an old colt, the other I am pretty sure was a Taurus. They both worked.
Please understand, I am not argueing the point, just putting forth my strategy so that you can look at another viewpoint and arrive at your own conclusion.
And I hope that BOTH medwheeler and I are right if either one of us are forced to employ our sidearms in the future.
With my life on the line, the best is barely sufficient.
This is not about price, but quality. I would rather a used Smith or Colt than carry an H&R. If the finish is worn you are still in the "beer budget" catagory.
Is Medwheeler right when he says (in essence) that Rossi/Taurus/Charter are good enough? I sure hope so. In my experience, the 2 times I had to use a firearm for self defense, one was an old colt, the other I am pretty sure was a Taurus. They both worked.
Please understand, I am not argueing the point, just putting forth my strategy so that you can look at another viewpoint and arrive at your own conclusion.
And I hope that BOTH medwheeler and I are right if either one of us are forced to employ our sidearms in the future.
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