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I want a Tokarev!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by burnse, Mar 4, 2009.

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  1. burnse

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    I would like to know where to look (online), which countries of manufacture are good to look for (I already know that Polish ones are great, and if the Chinese are any good, let me know), any real problems with them, etc.

    Also, just so I can know what they look like from different countries, and what I should be looking for, people should probably post pictures...lots of them :D
     
  2. Schofield

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    I want a Webley-Fosbery. Here's a picture of the Tokarev. [​IMG]
     
  3. burnse

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    Schofield, is that an original style model? It looks much cleaner without a safety.:uhoh:

    Are those available, and affordable?
     
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    I have seen Tok's for $200 online. I'm a big fan of the cartridge -- it's pretty darn powerful for its size.

    That being said, those grips would look really good in soviet red with the star & outline in gold.
     
  6. -v-

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    Not to mention 7.62Tok has a nasty tendency to tumble in tissue with ball ammo, producing wounding far in excess of it size, even in an HP loading. Plus, no fear of the HP cavity getting clogged!

    As for size...only bigger then a 10mm auto cartridge!
     
  7. Matrix187

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    Not as much energy, but a hell of a lot of velocity and penetration. I wonder if it would work well as a cheap woods gun? I'm in grizzly territory and cant afford a fancy smancy 10mm or 44 mag. How are the romanian tok's?

    EDIT: IS all the ammo corrosive?
     
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    There are a few places tp find a TT-33. Gunbroker, http://www.jgsales.com... I'd try Todd from Family Firearms & Finishes on surplusrifleforum.com.. He is a great guy, just have about an hour to spend on the phone because he will tell you everything you could ever want to know about the weapon. Just got one from him a week or so ago and love it.
     
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    Used to love that game on Nintendo 64!

    Thanks for bringing back the old memories.
     
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    While working in Kabul a South American came up and showed me his Tokarev. It was a beauty, beautifully blued and in excellent condition. He only had one mag full of ammo for it, but I wanted his gun pretty badly. But of course, my Glock 19 is better!
     
  12. Matrix187

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    OMG, I remember playing that map/part a million times.
     
  13. jerkface11

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    Wait till you see a stainless one. Oh and there's no way any glock is better.
     
  14. burnse

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    Broken Butterfly: YES!! THAT'S AWESOME!

    Olympus: What do you mean used to?!:mad: I still devote one half hour a weekend to playing that game with friends, despite our other 5 systems. Get back into it! 64 is still cheap - not taking a collector's price, yet.

    jerkface11: Is there really a stainless? Would make me mind corrosive ammo a bit less, but I do love the look of blued so much. Maybe I need 2... or more:evil:

    Okay, I just used 2 smileys in one post. Sorry.

    More info, please!
     
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    I've seen ONE stainless tokarev on gunbroker. It was a thing of beauty. This is a gun that someone needs to start making with all the nice stuff they put on 1911's (sights, rails, etc.).
     
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    They are good shooters. Smooth and a lot of power. I don't have the ballistics but I thought good old FMJ was at least as much energy as the 9mm luger?
     
  17. burnse

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    Come on guys. No more info? I go to THR with questions first because there's so many knowledgeable people here, and it's more up to date than regular sites.

    There's gotta be plenty to tell about the Tok's.
     
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    In my experience the 213 from Norinco are very good . Especially for the price
     
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    I bought 2 Norinco 213's for $89 each in 1992. I put one in the safe, and shot the other. I had over 55,000 rounds through it with no problems whatsoever, just performed routine maintenance, springs and the like. Nothing ever broke, no failures of any kind. It was my most accurate handgun. I recently gave it to my brother, I'm using the 2nd one now, still no problems.
    I also bought one of the Romanian Toks that AIM was selling a while ago, another great gun. Only thing I don't like about the pistols are the added safeties. I just use the half-cock as a safety.

    I had a couple of spare barrels for the 9x19 Norinco. I reamed out one barrel so as to be able to fire 9x23 Winchester in the Romanian (just needed the barrel and a 9mm barrel bushing). The 9x23 is the ballistic twin of the 357 Magnum. I get 357 Magnum power in an autoloader with more rounds, faster reloads, less recoil, and less muzzle blast. The second spare barrel enables me to fire 9x19 Luger in the Romanian Tok with just a barrel change. For better reliability you can get the Tok mags with an interior spacer to make the 9x19 feeding more reliable, but I haven't really found the shorter cartridges to be a feeding problem. I just give the magazine a smack to line up the cartridges before I insert it.
     
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    I have a new norinco model 54 in 7.62x25 and the yellow box norinco ammo also. Paid $220 for it a few months ago and have not shot it yet but I will. Mine has the safety back like a 1911 abd it is still funky but the ones I am seeing out not with the safety by the trigger look ugly. But still might get one.
     
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    I had a chinese Tok that I recently sold to a friend. It was chambered in 9mm, however, but I bought wide mags just in case I ever wanted to switch the barrels out and use 7.62x25. And yeah, it throws the rounds, but accurately. I never had any problems with it. The guy I sold it to was shooting it before buying it and it was producing holes twice as large as his H&K P7. I had a stove piping issue but that was due to the magazine. I had one good one and one bad one and on the bad one it'd stovepipe on the last round everytime. So just make sure you get some good mags for it, should you go that route. Otherwise, very nice pistol for pretty cheap.
     
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    Energy according to Sellier & Bellot:


    9mm.....115gr FMJ

    Muzzle = 421.....POI = 0
    25yd = 358.....POI = 0
    50yd = 304.....POI = -0.8



    7.62x25 Tok.....85gr FMJ

    Muzzle = 511.....POI = 0
    25yd = 407......POI = 0
    50yd = 323.....POI = -0.2
     
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    Someone said that there's a lack of modern 7.62X25. IMO, that should be rephrased to "a lack of variety."

    Wolf makes a hollowpoint that is monster, pure & simple. For an SD load, it's perfect. They don't jam my stuff and they rip deep, giant holes. And, there's plently of cheap surplus or new FMJ for practice. What more does one need?

    My Tok has never been handicapped by a lack of modern ammo.
     
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    I had a couple of Chi Com Norincos in 9x19. They were pretty junky, poor metal. Right in the roughly translated owners booklet it said estimated life was 2500 rounds and after firing one of them a bit, the metal parts seemed to be pinging/wearing pretty fast. I sold 'em both. They only cost me a C not and I got that back out of 'em. They fed okay, mediocre accuracy.

    Russian ones are probably a lot better and if I got another one it'd be a 7.62mm model for collecting, not shooting, though I'd shoot it. I've got better guns for carry and self defense. I ain't interested in one for that. Only way to safely carry the thing is condition three and if you needed it, you could be dead before you got a round jacked in the chamber. I don't carry condition three.
     
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    A modernized one would be an awesome carry gun. I'd be forced to buy one.
     
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