I want one!

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  1. bikerdoc

    bikerdoc Moderator Staff Member

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  2. JShirley

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    It depends on the range.

    There were many knife or sword and gun combos in earlier days of less reliable firearms that took much longer to reload.

    The razor sword guy, Kurt, could draw and cut with that concealed sword faster than most people could present a firearm.
    The primary reason that manual weapons went out of favor was that it takes much less time to be reliably dangerous with a firearm than a manual weapon.

    John
     
  3. joneb

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    That contraption seems a little iffy to me :scrutiny:
     
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    Got to say it kind of makes me a bit nervous just looking at that tiny spur trigger along with no apparent safety!

    The knife itself looks to be overly big, heavy, and awkward to use.

    Would go with an Elgin Cutlass Pistol over this combo weapon.
     
  5. Speedo66

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    Looks like one of those things that would perform neither task well.
     
  6. Gordon
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    I "inherited " two of that style made by a master machinist who passed a few years ago. I decided to give them to others who gave a rats patoot about federal law restrictions of such and who lived far away , maybe even not in USA . The usefulness of an NFA item single shot , one a .22, knife combo was so small that it was not worth it to me. I chose a good knife and something like a legal Freedom Mini Revolver ect. or a derringer as more effective and useful. But it was fun playing with the ones I had for a couple weeks . One Can own a cap and ball /knife combo and I do have an Elgin Knife pistol repop in .36 I find even more interesting !
     
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    10A22F5F-931D-4364-BE4C-CFD67591BCA9.jpeg I took the liberty of improving the design.
     
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    I guess you could use your middle finger for the second shot. Remember to put them on ice so they can be reattached.
     
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    Does this count

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    I actually have one. Not that I intend to use it, but figured it was worth the $5 as a novelty.
     
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  10. JShirley

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    At least one reputable knife company made one, as I recall.
     
  11. Gordon
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    You mean these ?
    INSANE KNIFE GUN - When bringing a knife to a gun fight is ok.
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    No one in their right mind would bring a knife to a gunfight. On the other hand, many gun owners have been known to pack a blade for those just in case moments. In the late 1990s, one company specialized in hybrid knife guns that packed an unseen punch. This punch, concealed in the grip of the knife, was a small revolver caliber round. That company was known as GRAD.

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    Handguns with knives or bayonets have popped up frequently throughout firearms history. Such examples as the Elgin pistol, the Apache revolver, and others are well documented. These guns were just that: handguns that happened to have a knife or bayonet attached. Really, these weapons were guns that had a knife as a back-up weapon or tool, not the other way around.

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    But, there is a similar evolutionary train of knives that have had guns attached to them. The main purpose of these devices was knife-first, gun-second. The user would have a strong, well-made knife for cutting, prying, or use as an edged weapon. The pistol came as an accessory attachment on the knife, reminiscent of Swiss Army knives that have many tools on them (only these knives had a gun instead of a pair of tweezers and a corkscrew).

    Knife/gun combos have been more common than you may think. Back in the 1950s, Illinois-based U.S. Small Arms marketed and sold a folding pocketknife that held a single barreled .22LR along with its blade. In more recent times, the Powell and Brown Company of Tucson, Arizona marketed a long-bladed folding utility knife that concealed either a .22 or a .38 single-shot barrel.

    The barrel’s muzzle was shrouded by the top half of the grip and fired over the top of the blade through the hilt of the knife. To load and clean the revolver, the grips separated and folded open, allowing access to the concealed gun.
     
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  12. JShirley

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    No, I meant the Ka-Bar Pistol Bayonet. If someone found one for $5, that's a hell of a buy.

    John
     
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    That looks very much like the original, with a better handle.
     
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    Well that is good news. I had never looked closely enough, but mine actually is a K-Bar. There are no markings at all on the knife it's self and it just says "LaserLyte" on one side of the mount. The other side of the mount does say KA-BAR. I just picked it up at a gun show. No box or papers so I assumed it was a cheap China novelty item.
     
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