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I will (may) never set foot in Bass Pro Shop again!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by iamkris, Sep 19, 2003.

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  1. iamkris

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    So I took a long lunch today to run up to the Bass Pro Shop in Gurnee IL (about an hour north of Chicago) and use their range (which I often do when limited on time and can't make it to my club). I've been shooting a 3-gun match that utilizes a pistol caliber carbine instead of rifle cartridge and while I've been shooting a Win 92 in 45 Colt, recently picked up a Mech Tech CCU unit for my 1911 to use (gotta love common caliber and magazines). I've been having a little problem with FTEs so I went up for a short range session to test out a new load with my pistol and the carbine unit.

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    After running through the safety gauntlet (written inventory of everything I had, locks on all the guns, zip ties on my range bag and gun case) I make my way to the range.

    The guy at the counter points at my pistol conversion and says "you can't shoot that here."

    I say "Oh, its a 45 ACP"

    He says "you can't shoot an assault rifle here"

    Me (getting a bit steamed) "No, it's a 1911 with a longer barrel"

    He says "You can't shoot something that looks like that. You can shoot your pistol but not that. Not my rule...just policy."

    Now Bass Pro proclaims itself a cut above the regular discount store when it comes to guns and hunting. This one even sponsors cop training, hunter training and even pin shooting. I politely but firmly tell him the corporate policy stinks and will undermine shooting and hunting everywhere, tear up my range card, turn in my Bass Pro Outdoor Savings card and tell him the store / chain just lost a $500 - $1000 a year customer.

    After jamming my guns back in the car and listing the number of letters I was going to write (Bass Pro corporate, this store and posts on every internet shooting hunting board I could think of) I decide to go back in and get the straight scoop from the manager.

    They found the Hunting and Shooting department manager. I calmly explained what happened, told them what I was going to do and stated that the store's policy played right into anti-gunner's laps and would eventually undermine hunting and the right to keep and bear arms. The department manager accepted my invitation to look at the gun. She (who was into hunting herself) agreed that it was a pistol and said the only policy she knew of was against AP ammo because it hurt the range bullet trap. She said she would talk to the rangemaster to ensure that their people were "on the same page". :neener:

    Feeling a little smug, I decided to press her.

    Me: "If I brought an AR 15 to the rifle tube, could I shoot it?"

    She said "no, it would hurt the bullet trap".

    Me: "Well, then could I shoot a .308 hunting rifle I have for deer in the tube?"

    She says "Yes."

    I ask "You said you hunt, right? Can you legally shoot a deer with a .223 in most states?"

    She says "No, the cartridge isn't powerful enough"

    Me: "Well, why can't I shoot an AR?"

    She: [pauses, looking perplexed] "Ummm, since we're attached to this outlet mall, it might scare the people here?" :banghead:

    So, the drama isn't over. I'm going to check back in with them and see if they've had a chance to look deep into their logic.
     
  2. TallPine

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    I would think if they allow large bore rifles, small bore rifles shouldn't be an issue, and if they are truly not allowing certain guns because of looks I would be extremely upset. Besides, it sounds like the guns are locked up until you get inside and at the range area, so how are outside sheeple going to know if you rifle bag has an AR, grandpa's deer gun, or a Barret???

    Now, all that aside, I think (I stress that I'm fuzzy on this memory) that someone explained that small rifles calibers, ie 223, 22-250, 220 swift, etc, are too high of velocity, and really do more damage to CERTAIN types of backstops compared to larger, slower velocity cartridges. Any truth to this?

    Perhaps that's the actual company policy....at least we can hope there is some logic behind it...
     
  4. iamkris

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    Tallpine -- took a look at the other thread and thought your response to the "cheery corporate letter" was outstanding. Hope you don't mind me lifting some of the thoughts for my own corporate complaint letter should it come to that.

    Kamicosmos -- my feeling is that the response I got from Bass Pro was totally based on the LOOKS or cosmetics of the gun versus the caliber. For heaven's sake, my CCU is a 45 ACP!!!
     
  5. Futo Inu

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    Ooooh

    And the brand new giant Bass Pro here in OKC is almost done. I can't wait to harass and boycott them. :) That's got to be one of the most ridiculous things I'ver ever heard of. Boycott Bass Pro folks and let them know why. That's gun-ban PC nonsense if I've ever heard it. BTW, I want one of those Mec-Tecs with the long rail for a G20. Very cool. Maybe if you painted the long rail pink and the rest of the gun baby blue....
     
  6. Standing Wolf

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    Why is an anti-Second Amendment bigot working in a shooting range?
     
  7. feedthehogs

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    Again, don't judge a chain by its employees.
    While they should be a cut above Wally World, don't bet on it.

    They are only as knowledgeable as their teacher, or manager.
    Do you think a $7/hr employee is going to take their own time and find out the correct policy when they see the higher paid manager shooting from the hip?

    The Bass Pro store in Ft Lauderdale I frequent has been nothing but great.
     
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    A BPS is being built here in central AR. I have visited the one in MO a few times...enjoyed the food in Hemingway's...but it seemed to "change" a bit each time I visited. I have had "mixed" emotions because of various comments here on THR, that and the on again/ off again with rumors here locally, Sooo...

    My buddy calls " BPS may be delayed in getting opened...weltlands...traffic...CONFLICT with Klinton Library" What! I asked..." figured you'd been too busy to read , especially with anything to do with Slick...yep politics, wouldn't want to upstage the Klinton library opening...".

    I've lived 48 years w/o somethings in my life...I can continue to. Improvise, Adapt, Overcome. I have other sources, includes 'net and a CC...do business as I see fit. Principles...got 'em...this just rubbed me the wrong way.

    Besides the 'net means I don't have to dodge the orange bbls , and look for a parking space...

    ( ps, that fella builds his anti- Klinton library ( across from Slicks) ...I'll go...principles...it's a matter of principles .
     
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    Wow, and I thought I had a gripe when I went into a Gander Mountain store today and they had NO 30-06 brass in stock.:banghead:
     
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    The big chain stores (B.P.S , G.M, Dick’s , Galyan’s, etc ) certainly have good pricing ,but I find if you want people that really under stand the sport or hobby , we need to support the local independent shops/ranges.
     
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    In my opinion, Bass Pro has been anti-gun (military types) for several years. I too have gone through the insulting lock-up procedure and here in Texas they do not allow any type of pistol gripped or military rifle on their range. When I talked with the manager about this she said they were a "hunting store" and evil black rifles were not permitted. I then asked about a wood stocked, no pistol grip SKS and she again said no way citing its military use.

    It has nothing to do at all with damage to the range (although I'm sure there are limits) by higher velocity or higher caliber weapons. It has all to do with looks and political correctness. I got this straight from management - no ARs or AKs etc allowed, period. Blood pressure is rising as I type, time to stop. Splat.
     
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    I agree with Splat Shot. Although BPS caters to the hunters and general target shooting public, I have not seen them back anything else, particularly EBR type weapons. Some posts and info from BPS has even been anti-EBR. It would seem to me that BPS is really an anti-2nd hunter's (and fisher's) store.

    My opinion, of course.
     
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    Should have asked her if that meant you couldn't shoot any of the various rifles our armed forces have used as sniper rifles. Sure would hit their range bottom line, if you told everyone wanting to site in a Remington 700 or Winchester M70 that since that model had been used by the military at one time they couldn't shoot there. Not to mention all those evil Assault Mausers or anyone shooting a Beretta M9 variant or a 1911 style pistol.
     
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    Do a Woody Guthrie and plaster bumper stickers on your cases: "This machine kills fascists." See if the k-word twists any drawers.
     
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    I have specifically asked the folks at the BPS at Grapevine Mills (near DFW Airport) if I could shoot my AR15 there. Their answer? Yes. I then made a reservation for the rifle range, but before I arrived I was told they were experiencing more problems at the range, so I didn't do it (the trouble they've had with their rifle range is non-stop since it opened).

    The guy working there at the time apologized however, and since I made the trip out there for nothing, he let me shoot the pistol range at no cost. Nothing for me to complain about there. geegee
     
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    Why is it you gun type expect logic and consistency out of people? Give up on the logic and accept consistency when you get it.

    Keep showing Bass its illogical positions and its inconsistent staff. You are judged by the law on consistently following whatever asinine provision is out there yet those who provide shooting facilities for your fees feel no great need to consistency.
     
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    geegee, the BPS I am referring to is the one at Grapevine Mills. What the heck is going on with these people??? I have been told no AR15s mutiple times over there. :confused:
     
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    Good for all of you.

    We should all challenge this type of thinking. We should not accept that this is "corporate policy". Each and every one of us shoudl attempt to shoot something politically incorrect at BPS and when (if) they say no, point out the fallacy of their thinking.

    I read something (Grits Gresham) about the American Sportsman on ABC and their General Motors sponsorship. GM received lots of letters in the 60's saying that they would never buy a GM again if they kept sponsoring that show (which at the time had full coverage of big game hunts) GM dropped their sponsor ship and the big game section ended.

    The chairman said that if they had received similar letters saying that people would always buy GM cars, they would have kept sponsoring it. :uhoh:

    Never give up!
     
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    in my humble opinion, you are WAY too sensitive
     
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    I dunno. :confused: I will tell you that my experience is similar to yours: at first I was told "No Way", I then went there one day as another shooter was exiting-just after putting away his AR15. I asked him if he was shooting it there, and of course he told me yes. I then asked they guy behind the counter, and was told they were perfectly okay, as long as not Class 3. I then made the reservation for my own session (referenced above), but because of their range problem, never actually got to shoot it.

    To say they need to get their act together is a huge understatement. geegee
     
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    Huh??:confused: About what??
     
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    The best cure for roaches is sunlight.

    Write letters to BPS corporate.

    Call up Tom Gresham's gun talk tomorrow and bring this issue up.

    If it is a corporate wide policy, that is one thing.

    However, it may be only the misguided actions of specific employees.

    Either way, the situation needs to be brought to light.

    And brought to light in a professional, civil manner......

    hillbilly
     
  23. IAJack

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    Didnt..

    Didnt we go through all this with them on the old board? I thought it ended up being a local communication issue when contacting coorporate?

    if you want some anti gun business to complain about, check out Scheels policy and comments on it in the customer service forums!
     
  24. Bartholomew Roberts

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    I too was told no AR15s (or any other EBR) at the Bass Pro in Grapevine. I wonder if all the cases of Winchester Q3131A they have sold made them rethink that policy?
     
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    IIRC, there is a gun shop in Charlotte that often prohibits .223 round from being shot due to the fact that it is such a high velocity round. Also, lots of people like to shoot Wolf (heaven forbid) and it is said to be bad for the backstop...

    (They do sell many assault style rifles in .223 though.)
     
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