Ideal weapons for college students, in class.

[MotorOilMcCall]

Well, I'll give you some of that. I've been hurt pretty good from some small guys, but never lost. On the other hand, I've beat the hell out of some guys much bigger than myself. I'm sure there are more than a few guys with a severe weight disadvantage that would have no problem dropping me. However, there are a lot more guys with a weight disadvantage that I'd have no problem dropping either...

Experience counts big, but size does matter.

 

[ArfinGreebly]

Tower Shooter

Remember the shooter in the tower at Univ of Texas?

You may not remember this, but one of the things that kept the body count down was that everyday folks with hunting rifles in their cars/trucks returned fire.

He couldn't just shoot at will. He had to keep ducking.

Yeah, he did damage. Not nearly as much as could have been done, though.

Return fire saved lives that day.

It's worth remembering.

 

[Todd A]

Ahhh...youth. When I was your age (since your in college, I am guessing early 20's) I was dropped by big guys and little guys . Did my fair share of dropping some of them too. Mostly due to my bar hopping days.


These days I am too old for that. I plan on cheating. I will not "fight" someone,stopped doing that many years ago. My only plan is to defend myself.And there is a differance.A big one. I am willing to go much further than those simple fights of my youth. Those were over stupid things,today it will only be because my life (or someone else's) is on the line.

These are the simple tools (non-firearm) I carry to help my Head,Hands,and Feet. The knives change,this is what I had on me today. And the "tactical" folder is not my normal carry. I just did not feel like putting on a 3" to 4" fixed blade this morning,my usual large knife choice.

Buck Smidgen (on key ring,love this knife), Vic Hiker, G10 Byrd Cara Cara, Inova x1 light, Parker Jotter.

 

[Deltaboy1984]

Here is one I learned as a Teenager take 2 tube socks and put 1 inside the other , drop in a bar of Dail Soap into the sock and tie it off. Dail is hard as a rock and you can wack the tar out of some one with it and it will fit into you jacket or backpack.

 

[sm]

Re: Todd's Picture

The Hiker is one of two of the most effective "weapons" I see in that picture.
The other is the Jotter.
Seriously.

Before you post a reply to my choice, allow me to share, our own hso and I have shared this same viewpoint.
Maybe not a Hiker, instead another SAK such as Spartan, or Tinker.

hso and I are not alone in our viewpoint either.

Folks carry one about what members of a Branch of the Military carry and use.

SAK Tinker, Spartan, Hiker and similar have proven themselves by both men and women in the Military , in NON-WEAPON zones.

Forget fancy terms of martial arts, and the like. Forget a lot of what one reads on fora today.

They were doing this in Vietnam for instance.

And going even further back, and let us forget Military, and honest to goodness SAK. Still keeping in mind War, or Conflicts, and persons were not allowed weapons in certain places.

Ernest Hemingway carried such a knife, and while I cannot find a definitive answer, I suspect Robert Ruark had one too.

Just a pocket knife, it does not lock, and does not have assisted opening.
Still I know what one will do, as I have seen one in use, and I was about 3 or 4 years old at the time , so we are speaking of 1958, 1959...

If you know of what I speak, keep it to yourselves for a bit. I am curious to any replies.

Hey one can get a SAK Combo for around $20 or so, with Vic Classic SD, packaged with a Spartan , or Tinker.

[Now if I could find a dad-blasted steel Jotter, not that my black/ chrome or green/chrome won't work]



*griiiiiiiin*

 

[Dirty Bob]

Here is one I learned as a Teenager take 2 tube socks and put 1 inside the other , drop in a bar of Dail Soap into the sock and tie it off. Dail is hard as a rock and you can wack the tar out of some one with it and it will fit into you jacket or backpack.

You can do this, but it's not an idea I would recommend. Once you assemble it, it becomes a weapon. You might as well have rocks in the sock, or ball bearings, 'cause the cops are going to see it as a blackjack or a slung shot.

This is a weapon that people put together when they have access to nothing better. It's trouble for you if you assemble it ahead of time, but there probably won't be time to put it together if you need it. A student is far better off with something that isn't technically a weapon until it's put to use, such as a cane or a Mini MagLite, or a large, heavy pen. If you bought one of those steel mesh bags (for locking up a backpack), you could perhaps carry a length of chain and a padlock (for securing the pack to an object). In any case, I would advise against anything that's obviously a weapon, and slung shots are a felony in plenty of jurisdictions.

Regards,
Dirty Bob

 

[Brian Dale]

Canes are good. You can never tell when an old knee injury is going to act up.

 

[22-rimfire]

Some of you talk about fighting. I have not been in a fight since I was in grade school and that was not really fighting.

 

[hso]

We should be thinking about survival, not fighting. I've never been in a fight since grade school, but I have had to defend myself. Two entirely different things. As such the "rules" are different and the requirements are different.

 

[Todd A]

Grade school????? Man, you guy's smartened up way before I did.

Steve,

If'in you wan't a Jotter you need to go to the Mall Ninja Weapon Supply Store,...Walmart


As I said in my post,I agree. Fighting is way differant than defending ones self. The stakes are much higher.

 

[sm]

We should be thinking about survival, not fighting.

Yep.

I keep waiting for someone to mention ADEE when it comes to restrictive campuses, such as colleges.

Avoid.

College Campus, if an option exists for a class being offered online using long distance tools such as Moodle (my preference) or Blackboard, instead of being on campus, take the online class.

Granted these are often times more difficult, then again you benefit because in the real world, these long distance learning skills will be used everyday.

Still, most folks get into trouble by not avoiding some obvious situations that are prone to lead to bad things while on Campus.

You have to be on campus, and maybe at night, as that class has practical labs and the like.

-Don't go where trouble is.
-Safety in numbers.

You might have to park in the back forty, it does not mean you cannot network with other students and plan to arrive at the same time, park near each other, therefore walking to and from vehicles together.

Take a sledge hammer to your ego, if the campus has a shuttle with Security, use it.
Heck , if matters do not feel right, call Campus Security and ask to be escorted out, or hop in the Security car and be driven to vehicles, and Security will wait until your car /everyone's car is started, especially if the weather is cold, rainy, maybe even sleet and snow.

Predators will see you and your network, are taking prudent steps to stay safe. You have your wits about you.

Easier Prey is to be had, such as one person, parked around the corner where it is more dark, yakking on a cell phone.

That person is not avoiding trouble.

 

[Dirty Bob]

One more thing: throw away the flip-flops!

Gavin DeBecker wrote The Gift of Fear. This book has helped some of us in our perceptions of crime and victimization.

Some college students also need "the gift of footwear."

Flip-flops are terrible! They're a step down (no pun intended) from stiletto pumps. At least a girl in pumps can take them off and have a weapon in each hand, and some women can run surprisingly fast in pumps!

Flip-flops provide zero foot protection and limit mobility, yet they're the favorite warm weather footwear of many young people. Bad idea.

Friends don't let friends wear flip-flops in public.

Regards,
Dirty Bob

 

[qwik]

www.canemasters.com

 

[Caimlas]

Piano wire and a padlock with a length of 550 cord. The piano wire to rig the door, the padlock and 550 cord for a flail to use when a shooter walks into the room and trips.

Failing/including that, a bullet resistant vest.

From what I recall, many schools prohibit things as trivial as pocket knives in class these days - colleges included.

 

[Ulysses]

Worked for me

Things that I have done:
Cheap K-Mart bicycle lock with a padlock on a chain. - Can carry it many ways - around the waist - in pocket of utility trousers - outside pocket of backpack. - Cut down the odds but no firearms were involved. - If firearms involved might be able to use it to break a window or throw it like a bolo.

Girlfriend made me a fine looking belt from harness leather & 2 bull rings used as 'D' rings. - Took that off (can be done quickly) & confrontations quickly escalated or defused - Again, useless against firearms - Probably would not break a tempered window - Miserable bolo - 40 years later still a great looking belt that keeps up w/ my waistline.

Engineer boots - take one off & use as club - Did a lot of bloody damage but no stopping power - All depended on the determination of the opponent - Useless against firearms -

If confronted w/ a firearm I THINK would be best to create distraction - Find what cover you can - Bug out & get help if you can - Throw books - lite waste can on fire (hope sprinklers or fire alarm go off) -

Never have been confronted w/ a firearm so this is all just supposition

 

[sm]

I always hate the synonyms part of this test. I always get stumped, stymied, puzzled...



The 5th Wave. - Rich Tennant

 

[aunt_lucinda]

Todd_A said (p.5)

Arfin is right. All you need is a cell phone.

I would NEVER carry a weapon for self-defense . The police will protect me.

I'm glad you feel that secure. However, I'm in roughly the same area as a little college called Virginia Tech...and we're a little less certain here. Cell phones didn't really help them.... or the kids at Columbine either, for that matter