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Ideas on how to store pre weighed powder charges

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by mwsenoj, Jan 6, 2013.

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  1. mwsenoj

    mwsenoj Member

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    I am getting ready to load 260 on my Dillon 650 and I am trying to think of a good way to store 100 or so pre weighed charges so I can dump them in manually to the powder funnel in the press. I know I could use other cases to hold my powder (43.1gr of H4350) but I don't have any extra 260 or 308 laying around. Anyone with a non-brass suggestion?
     
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    May I ask....Why do you want to do this? What advantage do you perceive?
     
  3. kingmt

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    That sounds like doing a job twice.
     
  4. mwsenoj

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    I have a chargemaster and I can do other tasks while I am getting precise loads trickled out. If I had 100 charges ready to go I could speed up the actual progressive loading.
     
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    A lot of restaurants that do not use prepackaged condiments use small plastic cups with removable lids that will stack well for storage. Most will hold 3 large tablespoons full with ease. Or those paper or plastic ketchup containers you fill yourself at the Big Mac store.:D Those will not be that expensive to obtain while saving on your time spent cooking on occasion.:cool: You will just have to wash them before the propellant is dumped in them.
     
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    Your method seems to add unecessary and inherent risk to the reloading process. It's never a good idea to have unlabled powder on the bench at any time. Your opening up a can of worms, so to speak.

    GS
     
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    I'm curious why/how you would need to modify the 3006 cases?

    I was thinking you could use 100 of them, preferably with the spent primers still in :). Charge 'em and put 'em in your loading blocks. Dump as you load your 260.

    This could be safer than progressive charging. You would get the benefit of being able to visually check the powders levels in the loading block.

    You could label the block with the powder and charge info, if you planned to leave them in there for an extended time period.
     
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    Gloob you would have to verify that ALL the propellant exited each 30-06 brass each time also. to me a series of little plastic Solo cups with covers would stack in neat rows corresponding to loading block positions and are see through mostly so you see if there is anything left in your container easily. What I would do. I also would label a piece of paper with the load info and stack the cups in rows on that for safety. YMMV
     
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    Do you know anybody who takes pills on a regular basis?

    When I take my Savage smokeless muzzle loader to the range I carry my pre-measured smokeless powder charges in pill bottles. They are water tight, see-through, and free. They also have the benefit of not building up static charges so the powder doesn't cling to the inside walls.
     
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    Put a bullet on it and finish the job.


    Otherwise, dont.
     
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    You might make the loading process move quicker, but overall it will add to the time spent reloading. Not saying it will, but every time you add a step to powder charging you're increasing the chance that something could go wrong. And never forget how similar some powders look to others. One example in my powder cabinet is HS-6 and LeverEvolution, can't see the difference without magnification. I wouldn't want to accidently charge a 30-30 with 35.5 grains of HS-6.
     
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    i think you could put those little plastic cups right on the chargemaster scale and hit zero each time, then just hit dispense, throw a lid on it and repeat.
     
  16. kingmt

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    I can't place a bullet as fast as my dispenser/scale can have the next one ready.

    if yours is that slow try sizing & trimming in between charges.
     
  17. Trent

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    I could think of a few reasons for doing this on a progressive press.

    A) using a powder that doesn't meter well, and wants maximum accuracy

    B) pushing the upper limits of a powder charge, and accidental overthrows when metering by volume can be dangerous

    C) Working up ladder loads for accuracy testing (10 each, for instance), where "resetting" the powder dispenser would be more hassle than it's worth.

    So, gain the advantages of auto-sizing/priming with manual powder dump and bullet seat.

    If any of the above is the case, skip the powder dump and bullet seat stations on the progressive. Run your brass through to size and prime, then load them up in a tray and finish by hand on a single stage or turret press.

    I do this on 223 when I'm loading accuracy loads or ladder testing. Let the progressive walk the brass through two of the steps, finish it off by hand on my turret press.
     
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    Search vials on eBay.
     
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    Just curious, but why set up a progressive for a run as small as 100 rounds? Especially if your looking to be super precise as it sounds from your concern over super critical charge weight. My suggestion is to slow your roll and clean primer pockets or some other mundane task between powder dumps from your trickler. In the end, time will be the same or quicker as you don't have to handle the powder charges twice. My advice is worth exactly what it costs...
     
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    Call Rcbs. They helped me reprogram my chargemaster to more accurately throw small pistol charges. I'd wager you could reprogram to throw large rifle charges faster.

    FYI my problem was it blew right by the <5 grain desired charge.
     
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    I agree with Blarby, put a bullet on it and finish it. You are squaring the edge's of a round wheel here.
     
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    plastic 35mm film containers.
     
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    I think Kingmt is close to the solution. The Chargemaster can be set to deliver a lot of powder very fast and then slow down when the weight gets near the desired charge weight. My friend has one and it took him a while to figure out how to make it run faster. When he and I are loading now, it keeps up with us.

    I have a supply of empty, primed cases. He has the press and a supply of bullets. I charge the cases and pass them to him, he seats a bullet and runs it through the press. Rarely are we waiting on the Chargemaster.

    Lost Sheep
     
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